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[Cyonan]

Male or female?

 

Hermaphrodite, obviously.

[N7Jamaican]

Male or female?

 

Probably both.

[FKA_Servo]

The only thing Shai Labeouf motivates me to do is roll my eyes. On camera, he's not a good actor and off camera, he's an egotistical jerk.

Shia is what I like to call an "art troll."

My favorite was when he stuck a bag on his head, rented a storefront, let people book appointments to come in and yell at him.

[Alan Rickman]

Shia is what I like to call an "art troll."

My favorite was when he stuck a bag on his head, rented a storefront, let people book appointments to come in and yell at him.

 

I still can't decide whether he's coo coo for cocoa puffs or a genius.

[themikefest]

 

The only thing Shai Labeouf motivates me to do is roll my eyes.  On camera, he's not a good actor and off camera, he's an egotistical jerk.

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[themikefest]

He's certainly not the worst thing in the Transformers movies, but that's because other parts of the movies are just so damn terrible. Witwicky's parents are easily some of the most annoying characters ever. They should have been killed in the first film. 

I like his mother. She was cool

[dabaumtravis]

This might be the greatest thread ever.

[Grieving Natashina]

Welcome to the BSN.*  

 

Oh, you think this is entertaining, stick around.  With the E3 trailer being released, it's only going to get crazier around here.

 

_{Back about 18 months ago, before a format change, this site went by the name of the BioWare Social Network.  These days, it's just the BioWare forums, but the nickname stuck.}

[dabaumtravis]

Welcome to the BSN.  

 

Oh, you think this is entertaining, stick around.  With the E3 trailer being released, it's only going to get crazier around here.

 

Haha yeah I've been lurking here for some time in anticipation. But seriously, this thread has everything:

 

Complaints about character representation

Feminism drama

Unwanted parenting advice

Dank Halo references

Wrestlemania

Recipe exchanges

A smattering of actual discussion

[Grieving Natashina]

There's a lot of actual discussion, and a lot of it has been tangentially related to the OP. <shrug>  As far as character representation posts at this point, you'll get that in several places right now.  Halo, Wrestlemania, and all of that, well, a lot of that has been to cool some heads and to try to get a laugh.  We're all fans of these games and this company, or at least care enough to post here.  Bare that in mind when you see some off-topic stuff come out.

 

Anyway, BDtS is finish and I need a nap.  You guys stay cool and have fun, if you can.  

 

[DAO MAdhatter]

Biowarfare has always done this since DA2. They always have one character that dresses provocatively. I don't mind if one character does this. Let the guys have that.

[von uber]

Well I've been woken up after 3 hours sleep (seriously, it is worth it, honest).
Transformers is an interesting movie, much better than the sequels. Michael Bay certainly has a thing about objectifying women (not surprising given his earlier career). I'm never forgiving him for pearl harbour though. That was 4 days of my life in not getting back.

Someone mentioned the hawkeye initiative a few billion pages ago; I think that is a good way at pointing out how absurd art choices can be. I wonder who decided that femshep needed a boob job between 2 & 3, or liara for that matter. These things would've been seriously discussed somewhere in a meeting, would've been fascinating to have been there.

I had a really good wild boar stew in Estonia, can recommend that.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm never forgiving him for pearl harbour though. That was 4 days of my life in not getting back.

Four days? 

[ModernAcademic]

ME is -or started as- a franchise for a masculine audience.

 

After ME3, they evolved a lot more and the game felt more suited to both audiences. The fact that men couldn't romance Traynor was a major step in this direction, for instance. Perhaps because the developers realized the franchise was popular with both genres.

 

I don't see how Andromeda will continue this tendency. Bioware might decide to ignore this advancement and go back to square one: make a typical shooting game in space, with lots of hot, half-naked chicks in tight clothes. It would be interesting, though, if they didn't treat every female in the series as a sex toy. 

[Adanu]

Like seriously, I'm going to be cringing if we have characters running around in stiletto's, catsuits, spandex, etc. 

 

Not to mention exposed skin in combat and outer space

 

EDIT: I am mainly referring to the combat outfits, casual outfits are ok

EDIT 2: This has nothing to do with being politically correct, as I could care less about that bullcrap. This is about logic and practicality

EDIT 3: If you are going to bring up feminism, Anita Sarkesian, or any of the gamergate, feminism gaming war bullcrap, then please feel free to get the **** off my thread.

 

Take your SJW/feminist  notions and go back to tumblr. You people already have done more than enough to Inquisition with the eyerolling PC **** of Krem, and nearly did it again with Dorian.

 

We don't need any of your criminalizing and shaming male sexuality in video gaming, and never will. We also don't need your 'fantasy is not ok' in a video game. If you want total realism, go find a simulation game.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Well...

 

 

Look at her pose and then tell me that they weren't going for sexy. You usually only see contortions like that on comic book covers. A more natural stance would look much better.

I'm more concerned that they made the man be all ready for action, while the woman is checking some reading on her wrist.  Way to reinforce traditional gender roles.

 

I'd rather they'd reverse the positions of those two figures.  Let the woman look badass, and the dude look thoughtful.

[Sylvius the Mad]

We don't need any of your criminalizing and shaming male sexuality in video gaming, and never will. We also don't need your 'fantasy is not ok' in a video game. If you want total realism, go find a simulation game.

Roleplaying games should be simulations.  That's the best way to support roleplaying.

[HuldraDancer]

Well I've been woken up after 3 hours sleep (seriously, it is worth it, honest).
Transformers is an interesting movie, much better than the sequels. Michael Bay certainly has a thing about objectifying women (not surprising given his earlier career). I'm never forgiving him for pearl harbour though. That was 4 days of my life in not getting back.

Someone mentioned the hawkeye initiative a few billion pages ago; I think that is a good way at pointing out how absurd art choices can be. I wonder who decided that femshep needed a boob job between 2 & 3, or liara for that matter. These things would've been seriously discussed somewhere in a meeting, would've been fascinating to have been there.

I had a really good wild boar stew in Estonia, can recommend that.

 

Eh I just had flashbacks to my lazy ass history teacher showing us that movie instead of actually teaching anything. It's amazing that I know anything given he was a teacher for most of my subjects. That movie ek, I'll be happy if I'm never forced to sit down and watch it again.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Eh I just had flashbacks to my lazy ass history teacher showing us that movie instead of actually teaching anything. It's amazing that I know anything given he was a teacher for most of my subjects. That movie ek, I'll be happy if I'm never forced to sit down and watch it again.

Wait, a history teacher thought that movie was an accurate portrayal of that event? The movie that has the audacity to say that Japanese pilots fired at civilians, including targeting a hospital, when one of the attack's main mandates was minimize civilian casualties? The movie that has the gall to disservice the deaths of thousands of sailors with one-liners like "I can't swim"? 

[Han Shot First]

Pearl Harbor had one of the greatest teaser trailers of all time. I was stoked the first time I saw it in the theater.

 

Too bad the movie itself was horrible.

[HuldraDancer]

Wait, a history teacher thought that movie was an accurate portrayal of that event? The movie that has the audacity to say that Japanese pilots fired at civilians, including targeting a hospital, when one of the attack's main mandates was minimize civilian casualties? The movie that has the gall to disservice the deaths of thousands of sailors with one-liners like "I can't swim"? 

 

Yes, yes he did, or most likely he didn't feel like doing his job as usual. He was/is a very lazy teacher he was also known for having a favored student grade everything because he didn't feel like it and skipping very important things in health class because they made him uncomfortable such as sex ed or alcohol/drug addiction. I am not kidding when I do express I'm shocked I know as much as I do considering I had teachers like him. My uncle was a huge WW2 buff and was quite angry when he found out took a lot of convincing to keep him from going down there and starting something that wouldn't do any good anyway.

[The Heretic of Time]

ME is -or started as- a franchise for a masculine audience.

 

After ME3, they evolved a lot more and the game felt more suited to both audiences. The fact that men couldn't romance Traynor was a major step in this direction, for instance. Perhaps because the developers realized the franchise was popular with both genres.

 

I don't see how Andromeda will continue this tendency. Bioware might decide to ignore this advancement and go back to square one: make a typical shooting game in space, with lots of hot, half-naked chicks in tight clothes. It would be interesting, though, if they didn't treat every female in the series as a sex toy. 

 

Euhm, nothing is stopping men from making a female Shepard and romancing Traynor anyway. A lot male friends of mine already played femShep. Some who didn't rerolled as femShep for Samantha Traynor.

So your argument (and entire post really) seems pretty bogus.

[Seboist]

ME is -or started as- a franchise for a masculine audience.

 

After ME3, they evolved a lot more and the game felt more suited to both audiences. The fact that men couldn't romance Traynor was a major step in this direction, for instance. Perhaps because the developers realized the franchise was popular with both genres.

 

I don't see how Andromeda will continue this tendency. Bioware might decide to ignore this advancement and go back to square one: make a typical shooting game in space, with lots of hot, half-naked chicks in tight clothes. It would be interesting, though, if they didn't treat every female in the series as a sex toy. 

 

That only 18% of players played as femshep in spite of increased marketing featuring her disproves that notion and I wouldn't doubt that most players whom 'manced Traynor as her were male.

 

Further more, despite all the faux-choices and dialogue options that ultimately don't affect anything, ME IS a straight forward TPS in space(with casting).

[Panda]

Well I've been woken up after 3 hours sleep (seriously, it is worth it, honest).
Transformers is an interesting movie, much better than the sequels. Michael Bay certainly has a thing about objectifying women (not surprising given his earlier career). I'm never forgiving him for pearl harbour though. That was 4 days of my life in not getting back.

Someone mentioned the hawkeye initiative a few billion pages ago; I think that is a good way at pointing out how absurd art choices can be. I wonder who decided that femshep needed a boob job between 2 & 3, or liara for that matter. These things would've been seriously discussed somewhere in a meeting, would've been fascinating to have been there.

I had a really good wild boar stew in Estonia, can recommend that.

 

Eww, Transformers movies.. acted ones are awful. Although I love franchise, watched lot of Transformers animation when I was kid, blatant sexism of the movies pretty quickly made me drop the movies half-way-through. They really tried to ruin whole series with those, but I guess that always happen when Hollywood tries to make movies out of animes.

[Grieving Natashina]

@Seb

 

18% of all complete female Shepards is a silly poll to keep referencing.  You're talking one poll, from 3 years ago, if you had a Xbox Gold account and if you were aware of it.  Aside from the fact that a 1/5th of a fanbase is not good to ignore financially (we're talking millions of dollars, even at that fraction of players,) what about all the men and women that didn't have an Xbox Gold account and couldn't partake in the poll?  

 

What about all the new fans, men and women like me, that only started playing long after that?  I started last year, and you can bet I'm not alone.  Or how about the women that gender bend?  That isn't exclusive to men.  That poll reflected the amount of Sheploo/FemSheps, not the amount of actual female or male players.  Proof that most players that romanced Traynor were male?  Or are you just guessing, based on some pretty ridiculous assumptions?  

 

I hope you're just pulling our legs with our last post.     

 

Oh and after ME3, they did change some of their focus some.  First official E3 footage for DA:I?  A female qunari.  The benchmark test for the PC version, which can be run at any time?  A female human.  First look at the character creator?  Qunari female again.  Two out of the 5 official trailers?  Human female PC.  They released the numbers and guess what?  30% of all completed Inquisitors were female.  That's a third of the fanbase.  

 

For DA:I because it's a sword and sorcery makes no difference.  I've heard that argument: "Well, girls play more RPGs."  So?  The ME games are a type of RPG, and I've met a lot of women that enjoy them.  Gender does not prohibit anyone from enjoying any genre of game.  Something that the game industry is thankfully starting to realize. 

 

Time to start getting with the current year, and not banking everything based upon one poll from 3 years ago that didn't even reflect the playerbase as a whole at the time.  Kinda funny how much some people are clinging to that so tightly, like it's supposed to matter to me or even to BioWare at this point.