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[Torgette]

Jack looks great in ME3, don't know what ya'll are complaining about.

[SardaukarElite]

To be honest the nipples aren't actually part of the model, but part of the normal-map. They're not really there, it's just a texture that looks 3D to give you the illusion that there are nipples poking through her bandages. So her nips are as much "painted on" as the bandages themselves. Just saying.

 

Oh hey, of course. I had a nagging feeling I wasn't thinking that through.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

I don't mind having over sexualized characters outside of combat, but like a lot of people here said, please, under heavy gunfire make them use proper armor. And for god's sake, send the ****** breather masks to hell! Their heads would explode in contact with vacuum  ¬¬

 

Also, an option for not having butts in my face every time a "sexy" character appears on screen would be nice. Or at least give me the option to see some male ass instead

[dreamgazer]

So why not Jacob's ****, given how tight his outfit is?

Seriously? C o c k is censored? This place is bloody ridiculous.

Here's a big, impressive one for the hell of it:

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Just get creative with the words. It's more fun that way, anyway.

"So, why not Jacob's tallywacker?"

[The Heretic of Time]

So why not Jacob's ****, given how tight his outfit is?

Seriously? C o c k is censored? This place is bloody ridiculous.

 

His outfit's crotch is low enough for it not to reveal the contours of Jacob's sausage.

 

Jacob's outfit is actually realistic as well. Look at this and tell me if you see sausage (don't worry, it's nothing nasty):

 

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[The Elder King]

I don't think nobody here want Bioware to Not make skimpy/sexy outifts. What people argued is on having armours in combat. I understand that there Are people Who disagree, and it's fine. But it's not about removing those outfits completely from the game. Those two mindsets Are completely different.

[Laughing_Man]

I don't think nobody here want Bioware to Not make skimpy/sexy outifts. What people argued is on having armours in combat. I understand that there Are people Who disagree, and it's fine. But it's not about removing those outfits completely from the game. Those two mindsets Are completely different.

 

Indeed. Sexy is great, but whatever it is you put in the game, it should make sense. Catsuits and exposed skin in space is laughable.

And so are skimpy outfits and heels in a furious war-zone.

[Pasquale1234]

Fine. I can tell I'm going to lose if I continue. Happens often enough that you get a sense for it after a while.

FWIW, I support the concept, though I agree with the others about DAO armor styles being unattractive. I didn't think the ME1 armors were that bad, though.

One of the reasons that ME2 is my least favorite of the trilogy is because it robbed me of an aspect of role-play that is important to me. I tend toward role-playing characters who take their responsibility to their subordinates pretty seriously, and that includes supplying them with appropriate gear. Starting in ME1, I would headcanon having talks with Chakwas to make sure the Normandy was well-supplied to take care of the nutritional and medical needs of the aliens I was recruiting. (ME3 shows those conversations actually taking place).

In ME2, I'm supposed to do all these loyalty missions to help the team with their personal issues, but I can't even put proper armor on them. I'm supposed to care enough about them to help them resolve their daddy issues, while taking them into hazardous situations with bare skin exposed? That game creates a form of cognitive dissonance for me - and I hate it.

[Pasquale1234]

I don't think nobody here want Bioware to Not make skimpy/sexy outifts. What people argued is on having armours in combat. I understand that there Are people Who disagree, and it's fine. But it's not about removing those outfits completely from the game. Those two mindsets Are completely different.

I do think there may be cases where they went for the sexy when it was OOC.

Benezia's boob window may have made complete sense for her character, but Samara's outfit - not so much. This is a 700 (?) year old warrior monk who tells you that her only possessions are weapons, that she has chosen celibacy, that most candidates trying to join the Justicars don't survive the training, and that she has been chasing a fugitive through various worlds for 400 years. I don't think the series has ever presented a more single-minded, hardcore character. That her outfit was sexy and she had no protective armor really didn't make sense.

Of course, it also didn't make sense that krogan tank-breeding includes full armor.

[Pasquale1234]

(like Jack or Miranda who aren't above using seduction and sex to get what they want!))
 
greetings LAX

Interesting perspective. I don't see either of them using sex in that way.

[The Heretic of Time]

Interesting perspective. I don't see either of them using sex in that way.

 

Jack did and even admitted to it in ME2.

[The Heretic of Time]

FWIW, I support the concept, though I agree with the others about DAO armor styles being unattractive. I didn't think the ME1 armors were that bad, though.

One of the reasons that ME2 is my least favorite of the trilogy is because it robbed me of an aspect of role-play that is important to me. I tend toward role-playing characters who take their responsibility to their subordinates pretty seriously, and that includes supplying them with appropriate gear. Starting in ME1, I would headcanon having talks with Chakwas to make sure the Normandy was well-supplied to take care of the nutritional and medical needs of the aliens I was recruiting. (ME3 shows those conversations actually taking place).

In ME2, I'm supposed to do all these loyalty missions to help the team with their personal issues, but I can't even put proper armor on them. I'm supposed to care enough about them to help them resolve their daddy issues, while taking them into hazardous situations with bare skin exposed? That game creates a form of cognitive dissonance for me - and I hate it.

 

Shepard is their commander, not their mom. All your crewmembers are adults and more than capable of choosing their own outfits. If they decide to walk around in spandex, well, that's their choice* whether your Shepard likes it or not.

 

*I know that TECHNICALLY it's not their choice because they're characters designed by artists and the characters just wear what the artists decided they should wear, but please lets not go there, because that's honestly the dumbest argument ever. Without the artists the characters wouldn't even exist in the first place.

[Former_Fiend]

FWIW, I support the concept, though I agree with the others about DAO armor styles being unattractive. I didn't think the ME1 armors were that bad, though.

One of the reasons that ME2 is my least favorite of the trilogy is because it robbed me of an aspect of role-play that is important to me. I tend toward role-playing characters who take their responsibility to their subordinates pretty seriously, and that includes supplying them with appropriate gear. Starting in ME1, I would headcanon having talks with Chakwas to make sure the Normandy was well-supplied to take care of the nutritional and medical needs of the aliens I was recruiting. (ME3 shows those conversations actually taking place).

In ME2, I'm supposed to do all these loyalty missions to help the team with their personal issues, but I can't even put proper armor on them. I'm supposed to care enough about them to help them resolve their daddy issues, while taking them into hazardous situations with bare skin exposed? That game creates a form of cognitive dissonance for me - and I hate it.

 

The flip side of that, and this is what always breaks immersion for me, is that us strictly dictating what the other characters wear robs them of some agency. I start thinking of them less as characters and more as dolls I can dress up.

 

I can move past that - I did in DAO, but I prefer the characters having their own style. Which is why I like ME3's approach that gives each of the squadmates a few different outfits to choose from. 

 

I also like DAI's approach in theory but in practice I think it needed some work. If they go back to micromanaging individual armor sets I hope it improves on that concept.

[Malthier]

 

Relax. I'd rather not ****** this thing off.

 

(relaxes)

 

I still don't agree with you, tho 

 

The answer is to make the sexiness more evenly distributed between male and female characters, not to decrease it. 

[dreamgazer]

The answer is to make the sexiness more evenly distributed between male and female characters, not to decrease it.

[Pasquale1234]

The flip side of that, and this is what always breaks immersion for me, is that us strictly dictating what the other characters wear robs them of some agency. I start thinking of them less as characters and more as dolls I can dress up.

That doesn't bother me, but then I have a military background. Military organizations dictate exactly what you are to wear - and how you are to wear it - when on duty. What you wear off-duty is up to you.
 

I can move past that - I did in DAO, but I prefer the characters having their own style. Which is why I like ME3's approach that gives each of the squadmates a few different outfits to choose from.

ME3 was a vast improvement, though some characters still had the silly bubble masks. Give them better helmets, and they all had what looked like protective gear for combat. It worked well.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I get the feeling "social justice" is just Fundies and Puritanism all over again. A hyper moralized view of the world. Projecting everyone as overtly sexual and condemning it. No fun. As sterile as a hospital. We should all live in a world resembling "The Andy Griffith Show". 

 

Golly Gee Willickers, Batman. Look at her nipples.

 

I'll take Madonna's brand of feminism over this.

 

The truth is that pop culture whether it's games, movies, music, TV, novels, comics actually does shapes the rest of our culture. I mean do you think that the current SCOTUS wouldn't have said that gay marriage is legal today first without all the pro-LGBT games, movies, music TV, novels, and comics getting people to see that LGBT people as well real people and that two men or two women kissing isn't going to lead to Judgement Day. The same thing with feminism, racism, sexism, and other issues. Pop culture, for better or worse, shapes our world. It leads the way and without SJWs like myself (and I'm many things but I'm not a god damn fundie or a purtain and in truth I can't stand those people) trying to make a world better place. 

[Shanlii]

Interesting. Anyone tried to throw the Phoenix armor on Ashley to see how it looks on her throughout ME3?

 

I know this was a few pages ago, but yeah, I did.  She looks pretty good in it, I'd say!

 

 

As far as I've been able to find, you cannot, and I haven't seen any mods for it.  So far, I've only gotten it to work on only femShep.  Sheploo doesn't have access to it.  Heh, don't I wish I could mod that.  I would do so even quicker than I modded Allers.  

 

You can't put the Phoenix that's already in game on Ashley or Sheploo without some major work, but there is a mod that does that very thing.  I should know, I made it! (it's for everybody too!)

[Former_Fiend]

That doesn't bother me, but then I have a military background. Military organizations dictate exactly what you are to wear - and how you are to wear it - when on duty. What you wear off-duty is up to you.
 

ME3 was a vast improvement, though some characters still had the silly bubble masks. Give them better helmets, and they all had what looked like protective gear for combat. It worked well.

 

That doesn't bother me, but then I have a military background. Military organizations dictate exactly what you are to wear - and how you are to wear it - when on duty. What you wear off-duty is up to you.
 

ME3 was a vast improvement, though some characters still had the silly bubble masks. Give them better helmets, and they all had what looked like protective gear for combat. It worked well.

 

Well, if it makes you feel any better, technically speaking, Cerberus is not a military organization. They are a paramilitary organization. Dess codes are laxer. 

[Han Shot First]

I'm not a fan of Phoenix armor either. I think that was at least as bad as her default outfit in ME3. While it isn't a catsuit and it doesn't leave any exposed skin, the color scheme of white and pink and is bad and couldn't be any more untactical. It is also odd that Ashley seems to be the only person in the Alliance wearing it. In ME1 all the male Marines are wearing armor that looks more military, with black, green, or camo paint jobs...while Ashley gets white & pink.

[AresKeith]

I'm not a fan of Phoenix armor either. I think that was at least as bad as her default outfit in ME3. While it isn't a catsuit and it doesn't leave any exposed skin, the color scheme of white and pink and is bad and couldn't be any more untactical. It is also odd that Ashley seems to be the only person in the Alliance wearing it. In ME1 all the male Marines are wearing armor that looks more military, with black, green, or camo paint jobs...while Ashley gets white & pink.

 

I guess they did it to make her stand out more as a companion, but I do prefer the shade of blue her armor in ME3 has suits her better imo

[Pasquale1234]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, technically speaking, Cerberus is not a military organization. They are a paramilitary organization. Dess codes are laxer.

Dunno about that. Every other crew member - including Miranda and Jacob - wear gear with Cerberus logos. The local fire department is a paramilitary organization. I don't know what they wear around the firehouse, but they all wear approved gear whenever they respond to a call.

[Avilan II]

I think the promotional picture from Bioware is a little... over the top. Not sexualized as much as too... obvious.

Men and women do stand differently. A big part is that women and men has different centers of gravity. Women's center of gravity is about hip level, men's about chest level. Etc etc.

I do think the redrawn image, where the woman still puts her hip out a bit is better, however.

 

My big problem however is that they are not depicted as a team. He is ready for confrontation, she is checking her watch / whatever and looks completely relaxed. They should have drawn both in the same situation.