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Dunno about that. Every other crew member - including Miranda and Jacob - wear gear with Cerberus logos. The local fire department is a paramilitary organization. I don't know what they wear around the firehouse, but they all wear approved gear whenever they respond to a call.

 

I said it was laxer, I didn't say it didn't exist.



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It was supposed to be the original Alliance colors. Shepard originally had it (but they changed it because it made him look like a medic). The soldiers in the FCW wear it. The Normandy is designed around the same scheme (never understood why they suddenly changed it to blue).

 

The blue looks a lot better, I thought. It was also a darker color, so more practical in that respect. 

 

I like the Phoenix armor as far as the design, just not the color choice. 


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I don't mind the blue either... I just don't understand the universal change across the Alliance. It's pretty late in the story to have second thoughts.



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I just don't get difference in uniform styles.

The Kaidan and Ashley uniforms in ME3 are... very very different than everybody else's. The bright blue and white with no connection with the uniforms of anyone else in armor.


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On a big sidenote, another thing I noticed with the Alliance color change is soldiers on the Citadel wear either blue, black, or red (like Grissom). But if you leave an area and come back, sometimes those very same NPCs switch a color. They're never the same.

 

There's something screwy going on with all of that (but I don't necessarily mean IT.... I think).



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I don't mind the blue either... I just don't understand the universal change across the Alliance. It's pretty late in the story to have second thoughts.


Aren't those Spectre colours?

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Aren't those Spectre colours?

 

I didn't even know they had official colors.

 

But I'm also referring to the Alliance ships (like the Normandy or others). It all went blue.



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Aren't those Spectre colours?

 

I don't think Spectre's have an official colors



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I don't like  bright colors on armor. They are reflective and would give your position away. The armor I have Shepard wear, I make the color dark and dull looking.


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I just don't get difference in uniform styles.

The Kaidan and Ashley uniforms in ME3 are... very very different than everybody else's. The bright blue and white with no connection with the uniforms of anyone else in armor.

Aren't those Spectre colours?

I don't think Spectre's have an official colors

 

Yup, they are wearing Spectre armor. Just like Tela Vasir did.

 

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Note the Spectre logo on her right shoulder.



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It says in the Artbook for Ashley they wanted to introduce the "new" Alliance colors with her uniform. It's not Spectre. She's not even a Spectre until later.

 

Then they mention "Alliance colors" again when describing Kaidan.

 

Everything has changed to that blue..from the fighter ships, to frigates, to cruisers.



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Yup, they are wearing Spectre armor. Just like Tela Vasir did.

 

Note the Spectre logo on her right shoulder.

 

I think this makes more sense as her personal choice. Spectres usually work in the shadows, I don't think that they would have uniforms and coordinated color schemes.



#1913
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It's video games, there will be oversexualised characters in AAA titles whether you want it or not.

Mass Effect is a product for Mass Customer, and that includes immature teens.

 

In a perfect world all women in games would be like Jade from BG&E, but in this world prepare for Space Cleavage and Space Catsuits galore.

 

Fortunately BioWare began to balance it out by giving all females manly jaws.



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Shepard is their commander, not their mom. All your crewmembers are adults and more than capable of choosing their own outfits. If they decide to walk around in spandex, well, that's their choice* whether your Shepard likes it or not.

 

*I know that TECHNICALLY it's not their choice because they're characters designed by artists and the characters just wear what the artists decided they should wear, but please lets not go there, because that's honestly the dumbest argument ever. Without the artists the characters wouldn't even exist in the first place.

 

It would be funny if you could force your companions to change their casual clothing and you get dumped on with disapproval points.



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Shepard is their commander, not their mom. All your crewmembers are adults and more than capable of choosing their own outfits. If they decide to walk around in spandex, well, that's their choice* whether your Shepard likes it or not.


And as their commander, Shepard is responsible to ensure that they are properly equipped before taking them into COMBAT.

It would be funny if you could force your companions to change their casual clothing and you get dumped on with disapproval points.


It might be funny, but I'd hope they would never allow the player to choose NPC's casual clothing.

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Yup, they are wearing Spectre armor. Just like Tela Vasir did.

 

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Note the Spectre logo on her right shoulder.

 

Well I wouldn't say it's Spectre armor per se, more that it's her preferred style with the logo on it. Because Nhilus had his own, Saren has his own, and Jondum bau had his own armor 

 

Plus the Eclipse Merc Wasea had the heavy armor version

 

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I don't like  bright colors on armor. They are reflective and would give your position away. The armor I have Shepard wear, I make the color dark and dull looking.

 

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I don't mind the blue either... I just don't understand the universal change across the Alliance. It's pretty late in the story to have second thoughts.

Because Grey Wardens started wearing blue too.

 

Duh  :P



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I don't think Spectre's have an official colors

They don't. Every Spectre we meet is wearing a different color scheme. 

 

Nihlus is wearing black and red. 

Saren is wearing grey.

Tela is wearing blue and white. 

Jondum is wearing black and yellow. 



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I'm not a fan of Phoenix armor either. I think that was at least as bad as her default outfit in ME3. While it isn't a catsuit and it doesn't leave any exposed skin, the color scheme of white and pink and is bad and couldn't be any more untactical. It is also odd that Ashley seems to be the only person in the Alliance wearing it. In ME1 all the male Marines are wearing armor that looks more military, with black, green, or camo paint jobs...while Ashley gets white & pink.

I believe the intention was for it to be white and red.  The red...doesn't come out too well.



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Shepard is their commander, not their mom. All your crewmembers are adults and more than capable of choosing their own outfits. If they decide to walk around in spandex, well, that's their choice* whether your Shepard likes it or not.

 

Then as their commander, Shepard should be allowed to leave them to their fate when they trip over their own feet 'cause they thought it would be a good idea to wear stiletto heels into combat rather than armor.



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I think this makes more sense as her personal choice. Spectres usually work in the shadows, I don't think that they would have uniforms and coordinated color schemes.

 

Well, since they aren't actually working in secret and are official spokespersons for the Council, I'd give them an uniform of sorts they can wear if they want to. Honestly, after Shepard's stunt with the endorsements I wouldn't be surprised if there was Spectre merchandise. They need to pay for their gear somehow, right? :P

 

Well I wouldn't say it's Spectre armor per se, more that it's her preferred style with the logo on it. Because Nhilus had his own, Saren has his own, and Jondum bau had his own armor 

 

Yep, true. I'm not sure what they even need a logo for. Nihlus was wearing Phantom armor by Serrice Council, an Asari manufacturer. Jondum Bau was wearing the standard Salarian armor with different colors. Saren was wearing something from the Geth Armory winter collection which was so blatantly obvious that a simple photo of him should have been enough to convict him.

 

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By the goddess! tehehehehe

 

The guy is half machine from the very beginning, he looks more like Geth than Turian. Note the blue tubes inside his chest. Just like Legion later.

 

Even more offtopic: Did anyone notice that in ME1 Tali's right arm is ... well... Geth?

 

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Geth Infiltrator! Cyborg! No wonder she was so good with machines... :P

 

 

On the Spectre topic: Spectres make not much sense once you think about it. They are both secret agents and public figures. Everyone knew about Saren and Shepard. Nihlus was known to the crew of the Normandy, too. They mentioned a few of his past exploits. They are outside the law and only answer to the Council, their job is to go where the Council can't act themselves... eh what? If they are officially sanctioned spokespersons for the Council, if the Council has direct oversight over the Spectres... then they are acting themselves through their agents. Who are basically just diplomats with guns. The difference between sending a fleet or a Spectre is lost on me. Both are actions by the Council, so it's clearly Citadel business. Stuff like that would only work if Spectres were unknowns... but even rent-a-cops can just check your ID and confirm you're one. Not to mention that the Council itself made Shepard's identity and promotion public to such a degree that even numbnut Conrad Verner knew about it an hour later.

Also... if you have the support of the Council (which means access to massive stores of information, connections and resources) why do you have to pay for your gear? What's the point? Do they want agents that are good merchants? Would it be asked for too much to get a proper ship (even if it's just a fighter craft) and access to Spectre level weapons and armors right from the start? Oh no, let's waste time earning money when the fate of the galaxy is at stake. So efficient.

Another point... the Spectre office only turns up in ME3. And it's not very impressive. Where were the Spectres in ME1? Why didn't they grab Shepard right after their promotion, dragged them into their offices and gave them a manual? Why didn't they throw Shep into a combat simulator to see if they are as good as they said? Why has Shepard no access to any training or intelligence hehehe during ME1?

The Council recruits special persons into the Spectres... the one thing they all have in common is that they are exceptional warriors. Almost all of them were soldiers. Which is awesome and all... but that doesn't mean they'd make good spies. While some are good at investigating crime, most Spectres are used for combat. Instead of sending an entire platoon, the Council sends a single Spectre. Who has to pay for their own gear and probably doesn't get their travel expenses refunded either. Clever. The Council is saving so much money that way. :P

If Spectres only answer to the Council, then by definition they can not be part of any other organization, they can not answer to their species' government or military. I doubt Saren or Nihlus were still in line for Primarch, Jondum Bau wasn't in STG anymore (if ever) and Tela Vasir wasn't a Huntress either. Only Shepard is being a special snowflake again.

 

Spectres suck. They are terrible spies, the Council can't even disavow them, they have basically no support from the Council and they have to deal with all the crap jobs you can't give to the actual military.

 

Back to Tela Vasir's armor: The first time I saw her in the game I thought, "No way she's a real Spectre, they wouldn't run around in an uniform. She's probably an impostor who believes Spectres have a logo." ... turned out she was indeed real. Imagine James Bond walking into a casino, wearing his tuxedo... with MI6 stenciled on the back.

 

Did I mention a certain lack of realism and consistency in the ME franchise? It bears repeating.


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#1923
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Please remove the stick, y'all. It doesn't hurt to have a catsuit every once in awhile.


Not in final fantasy or soul calibur. But most of mass effect makes so much sense that fanservice feels pretty out of place.

Cmon Thane, we all know you are the biggest instigator out there.

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Not in final fantasy or soul calibur. But most of mass effect makes so much sense that fanservice feels pretty out of place.

Cmon Thane, we all know you are the biggest instigator out there.

ME makes sense. With the exception of 99% of everything, of course.

Clothes, yes(ish). The science which everything is built on? Not in any way.



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Not in final fantasy or soul calibur. But most of mass effect makes so much sense that fanservice feels pretty out of place.

Cmon Thane, we all know you are the biggest instigator out there.

 

Euhm? ME2/3 make as much sense as the average Marvel comic book. I'd say the comicbook fanservice spandex is very much in place in those two games.


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