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An unlikely Haestrom theory...


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dfjdejulio

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(It's unlikely, and I know that, but I won't be able to stop thinking about it until I write it down somewhere.)

 

So… what did we observe with Haestrom?  The planet's star is destabilizing, in theory because mass/energy was removed directly from the star's core, making it age rapidly.

 

What if the mass/energy wasn't reduce in order to destabalize the star, but taken to be utilized, destablizing the star as a side-effect?  What project, going on around this time, might make use of that level of mass/energy?

 

Maybe the launch of an intergalactic ark?



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I think that's been suggested quite a few times. That the Reapers or someone else were using Haestorm as a power source.



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I think that's been suggested quite a few times. That the Reapers or someone else were using Haestorm as a power source.

 

But has anyone suggested that a secret project by a group of the Citadel races is using it in order to get one ship to Andromeda, once, one-way?  (If so, never mind.)



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Probably not. You would have a job coming up with a good explanation as to why the Council decided to pick a star deep in hostile geth space instead any of the other billions of stars in empty, unhabited systems though.


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Probably not. You would have a job coming up with a good explanation as to why the Council decided to pick a star deep in hostile geth space instead any of the other billions of stars in empty, unhabited systems though.

 

If I were writing it, my answer would be that it wasn't a Council project.  If I were given a free hand to decide this stuff myself, what I'd do is, the ark would be a skunkworks project taking place around the same time as the Lazarus project, and launching (mostly in secret, but with participants from various citadel-space races) before Shepherd's resurrection.

 

I mean, Shepherd's ressurection was kept secret, right?  So to the rest of the galaxy, this guy who had saved the galaxy and had been warning everyone about the reapers was killed.  The set of people who believed him about the reapers would not have been "none", and, well.  That would have caused reactions among groups besides the Alliance, the Council, and Cerberus, and those reactions would not be coordinated or in many cases even public.

 

That's the best way I can see to make it easily compatible with everyone's playthrough of the trilogy.  Cured the genophage?  Doesn't matter, these Krogan left the Milky Way before the cure, so our Krogan will still be suffering from it (and won't overpopulate Andromeda).  Caused the extinction of both the Quarians and the Geth?  Doesn't matter, because again, the ark left before that happened.  Heck, you could have Shepherd die in the suicide mission, or even survive it and then have an affair with Morinth, and again, it would all be consistent.  As long as you weren't going to bring the Rachni along anyway, it could be made consistent with everyone's headcanon.

 

As for why one would pick that particular star?  You could say that non-heretic Geth were involved in the project, or you could say that Quarrians were involved (remember, secret project) and considered the destruction of a solar system in Geth space was a desireable side-effect, or you could say something else.

 

(But, I'm very much not in charge, so never mind.)



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The problem with this was that system was monitored by the Heretics, the Geth that were loyal to the Reapers. The Heretics killed anyone who entered their territory. So it couldn't be used by any group since either they'd be dead, and thus the research lost, or the Heretics would be dead, which we know is not the case since we fight them while rescuing Tali. 



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Probably not. You would have a job coming up with a good explanation as to why the Council decided to pick a star deep in hostile geth space instead any of the other billions of stars in empty, unhabited systems though.

 

Aside from that, whatever is even capable of star lifting Dholen to death in just over 200 years would have to be ridiculously powerful, even more so than the reapers. 



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Haestrom unfortunately to me represents Bioware's biggest story folly. Something as unnatural as that star being destabilized, and having literally zero subsequent explanation for it, is disappointing. On the bright side, it gives this new dev team something to work with, something that is untouched by established canon. So they can do whatever they want with it. I may be starting to believe that Haestrom's situation is going to be related to Andromeda in a major way...



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I believe it was the Geth Dyson Sphere... no?



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I believe it was the Geth Dyson Sphere... no?

According to the ME wiki, the geth used the energy from Tikkun when constructing their Sphere.



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You had me at "Haestrom." Probably because I dig Quarians. Also because this isn't too far fetched.

 

Also, I believe this was originally supposed to be the plot of ME3. With the Reaper War being something of a backdrop for the entire star trouble. They had to rewrite for whatever reason. At least, that's all I know.

 

Means Quarians would've gotten a lot more attention, being the race that discovered the destabilization in the first place.



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I believe it was the Geth Dyson Sphere... no?

 

A Dyson bubble wouldn't have that sort of effect on a star. And with it being a bubble, it probably wouldn't even have any meaningful effect on the solar output to the planets that orbit the star. 

 

The star would literally have to be mined for fuel, but a star is so large that anything that could do it to the point of the star basically dying way before its time in just a couple of centuries would have to be like some kind of Galactus-like figure that can just drink celestial bodies like they were Red Bull. 

 

 



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A Dyson bubble wouldn't have that sort of effect on a star. And with it being a bubble, it probably wouldn't even have any meaningful effect on the solar output to the planets that orbit the star. 

 

The star would literally have to be mined for fuel, but a star is so large that anything that could do it in just a couple of centuries would have to be like some kind of Galactus-like figure that can just drink celestial bodies like they were Red Bull. 

 

 

 

The Geth built themselves a Star Forge!

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