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 Just a suggestion I thought of when responding to the Gay KISA thread (not advertising it). I rethought this, and figured that the best equivalent to the knight in shining armor would be a dark, sinister mage. Would be cool to not only romance someone who is actually cruel and somewhat evil, but also be the only one to have actually gotten her/him in love.


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 Just a suggestion I thought of when responding to the Gay KISA thread (not advertising it). If people want that character, who would want to have a lesbian mage who is a girly girl/lipstick lesbian. I am talking about the kind of woman who loves to look feminine and dressing up while going out for a night on the town (even if it is just a walk in the park).

 

Really vague idea, I know, but I figured if there can be a gay honorable kight, why not a female-mage equivalent?

 

I've had the same thought. That for a change, it would be cool to have a glamorous mage F/F romance option (bisexual would be good), but I was picturing someone with sort of a dark glamour, and very sultry. 


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Maybe you could define your idea a bit more... because I have no idea what a lipstick lesbian really means as a fleshed out character, nor am I familiar with a girly girl mage archetype. The KSA is an archetype with a personality/bibliography dating back to Lancelot if not longer, and having one be gay is simply writing a character like Cullen or Cass who are not straight and demonstrate same-sex attraction.  I'm not sure I am familiar with the girly girl mage archetype. I know of the young witch archetype (Morrigan), and I know of the the magical prodigy archetype (Hermione), but girly girl mage... do you mean like Merrill? She's not really one for dressing up but she tends to follow femme stereotypes (air-headed, ditzy, cute, naive).

 

I do agree with you it would be nice to have a lesbian mage, I'm just wondering what you picture this character to be like and what archetypes it might build off or subvert.



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Maybe you could define your idea a bit more... because I have no idea what a lipstick lesbian really means as a fleshed out character, nor am I familiar with a girly girl mage archetype. The KSA is an archetype with a personality/bibliography dating back to Lancelot if not longer, and having one be gay is simply writing a character like Cullen or Cass who are not straight and demonstrate same-sex attraction.  I'm not sure I am familiar with the girly girl mage archetype. I know of the young witch archetype (Morrigan), and I know of the the magical prodigy archetype (Hermione), but girly girl mage... do you mean like Merrill? She's not really one for dressing up but she tends to follow femme stereotypes (air-headed, ditzy, cute, naive).

 

I do agree with you it would be nice to have a lesbian mage, I'm just wondering what you picture this character to be like and what archetypes it might build off or subvert.

 

There is Leliana, who gains approval in origins for talking good fashion with her (not saying practical style over fashion). But a true girly girl mage hasn't been done, but can be written well.


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Um... aren't all the female/female sex partners in Dragon Age lipsticky? Is there a single one that is butch? I mean, it just seems to me like this request was met before it was even made.



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Um... aren't all the female/female sex partners in Dragon Age lipsticky? Is there a single one that is butch? I mean, it just seems to me like this request was met before it was even made.

 

Uh? What? Isabella seems the butch type for sure. A masculine female character. And Sera in Inquisition deifinitely fits the butch/Masculine set up.


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I don't know what to call Sera other than someone that may find farting in bed funny.


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I don't know what to call Sera other than someone that may find farting in bed funny.

 

I would say that there are only three F/F options that are "Libsticky" and all of them are actually bisexual/playersexual, not homosexual/lesbian.



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My problem with gating options, racially or sexual is you miss out on cool options if you wanted to play a certain character.

"Play something else" Wasn't really an option for me in dai. Maybe a straight female paired with Cullen. Otherwise I'm not feeling Josie and definitely not Sera

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I edited the original post and Title. Now how about an evil-ish dark sorceress, Ala a homosexual Morrigan?


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Or Philippa Eilhart?



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Or Philippa Eilhart?

 

Sorry, but who (is bad nerd)?

 

Edit: Nevermind, never played the witcher series.



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Or Philippa Eilhart?

I was just thinking that.

 

I would definitely romance her.  :ph34r:

 

Sorry, but who (is bad nerd)?

 

Edit: Nevermind, never played the witcher series.

She's somewhat like Vivienne: scheming, political, ruthless, steely and elegant.


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...but also be the only one to have actually gotten her in love.


Yeah...we need more ways to make the PC feel like a special snowflake. There just aren't enough now. Bioware needs to try harder.

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I would love to have a love interest for a female character who's more in the Morrigan, Vivienne, and Miranda from ME sort of style. Other than Isabela, lesbian protagonists usually get stuck with the cutesy girls.


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Difference I can tell between philipa and Morrigan is one cares more about appearances and political power while one cares more about magical power and knowledge

Feel free to correct me anyone

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How about one that is a bit of a revolutionary? One that detests the Chantry but actually does something about it? I mean not Anders level, but you get the idea.

 

An actual blood mage?



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How about one that is a bit of a revolutionary? One that detests the Chantry but actually does something about it? I mean not Anders level, but you get the idea.

An actual blood mage?

Wasn't Merrill's original concept art designed to be a little more...edgy/scary, to reflect the fact that she was a blood mage? I'm not sure if that's quite what the OP has in mind, though.

Or do they mean more elegant and sophisticated?

I would like to have another blood mage companion, if it makes story sense...so maybe if we are going to Tevinter in the next game, it would be a good opportunity for a character along these lines. I would like to see them explain more about blood magic in general.

Anyway as a romantic interest, I do notice this archetype almost always presents as a male "defrosting the icequeen" sort of trope. I remember I used a mod for one playthrough of Origins so that I could romance Morrigan with my female Amell. I still managed to pursue Alistair's romance at the same time, and so the whole thing came off like two scheming witches conspiring for power together...One to get the old God baby and the other to try and get a mage sympathetic king on the throne so she could liberate the circle. Not a canon playthrough obviously but was fun.
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You sound like Phillipa Eilhart from The Witcher ;)

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Wasn't Merrill's original concept art designed to be a little more...edgy/scary, to reflect the fact that she was a blood mage? I'm not sure if that's quite what the OP has in mind, though.

Or do they mean more elegant and sophisticated?

I would like to have another blood mage companion, if it makes story sense...so maybe if we are going to Tevinter in the next game, it would be a good opportunity for a character along these lines. I would like to see them explain more about blood magic in general.

Anyway as a romantic interest, I do notice this archetype almost always presents as a male "defrosting the icequeen" sort of trope. I remember I used a mod for one playthrough of Origins so that I could romance Morrigan with my female Amell. I still managed to pursue Alistair's romance at the same time, and so the whole thing came off like two scheming witches conspiring for power together...One to get the old God baby and the other to try and get a mage sympathetic king on the throne so she could liberate the circle. Not a canon playthrough obviously but was fun.


Merrill wasn't the revolutionary type. I'd hardly call her scary.

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Difference I can tell between philipa and Morrigan is one cares more about appearances and political power while one cares more about magical power and knowledge

Feel freearrow-10x10.png to correct me anyone

 

Morrigan's got a heart.

And eyes.


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Morrigan's got a heart.
And eyes.

Set the hounds of the Eternal Fire on her and the latter would be true of Morrigan
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Merrill wasn't the revolutionary type. I'd hardly call her scary.

No she wasn't.

I just remember reading that her concept art was supposed to be darker. So I think she was planned to be a scarier character at first, to fit with being a blood Mage. I actually like what they did with her instead, though.
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Yeah, Merrill was darker at one point.

 

Merrill_03.jpg


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Sweet, nearly innocent and looked at scary magic as nothing more than regular magic in the right hands. She was more of a Scholar than an edgy blood mage.
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