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[Bondari the Reloader]

Regarding helping Morrigan:

 

I've done three playthroughs, and I've killed Flemeth in all of them. Aside from the obvious, KILL ALL THE DRAGONS! answer, my Wardens all trusted Morrigan and befriended her, in spite of her questionable morals. My two mages were also motivated by trying to help their fellow "sister" mage from being consumed by a dark ritual (which adds to the irony of Morrigan's own endgame offer). I headcanoned that my city elf was very close to her mother (she wore the boots the whole game), and she couldn't accept that any mother would betray her daughter like that. I haven't played the human noble origin (which is what you're playing, correct?), but maybe you could tie your warden's family into your motivation somehow.

 

Even if you can't come up with a satisfying headcanon, definitely do it for the completionist aspect. It's a fun, challenging fight that you should save for near the end of the game, especially if you find the game difficult enough that you're playing on casual.

[Sexxibrunette]

Aw Mannnn. My advice - Take your time. I looooooooove DAO it is still my favorite old graphics and all. The connection / banter with the companions was simply the best. Felt the most genuine and real. I haven't felt that since. Don't rush anything and enjoy.

[Illegitimus]

 

Re: Inquisition-- Yeah, I can't get on board with forsaking the mages in Inquisition, but it's a shame, because I know the Templar storyline is also awesome, and

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Calpernia is terrific.  But, just can't justify that decision.  Plus, I like Fiona-- and seeing her become Corypheus' puppet is no fun.  

 

 

Forsaking?  Allowing for the fact that your character doesn't know the future, the mages biggest problem is the Templars.  Saving the Templars should in fact in save the mages.  

[sylvanaerie]

Forsaking?  Allowing for the fact that your character doesn't know the future, the mages biggest problem is the Templars.  Saving the Templars should in fact in save the mages.  

Beyond story reasons that one or the other must be chosen and the one not picked will be lost, why would saving the templars save the mages?  I don't follow your reasoning.  

[Illegitimus]

Beyond story reasons that one or the other must be chosen and the one not picked will be lost, why would saving the templars save the mages?  I don't follow your reasoning.  

 

What's the biggest problem the mages have?  The Templar leadership have their heads firmly up their own butts.  What's the biggest problem the Templar have? Same.  Right at the moment where the inquisitor makes the choice, the mages may be the more inviting opportunity, but the Templars are the real problem that need to be fixed if an end is to be put to the civil war.  Based on what my character knows at that moment, if the mages join the Inquisition, the civil war will continue, only now the Templars will be attacking the Inquisition.  If on the the other hand the Inquisitor gets the Templars, the civil war can actually be ended and I can get the mages help as well.  

 

Now that's wrong of course, but it's wrong because of things that the Inquisitor can't know at that moment.  I mean, seriously.  Time travel?  Who sees that coming?  

[sylvanaerie]

What's the biggest problem the mages have?  The Templar leadership have their heads firmly up their own butts.  What's the biggest problem the Templar have? Same.  Right at the moment where the inquisitor makes the choice, the mages may be the more inviting opportunity, but the Templars are the real problem that need to be fixed if an end is to be put to the civil war.  Based on what my character knows at that moment, if the mages join the Inquisition, the civil war will continue, only now the Templars will be attacking the Inquisition.  If on the the other hand the Inquisitor gets the Templars, the civil war can actually be ended and I can get the mages help as well.  

 

Now that's wrong of course, but it's wrong because of things that the Inquisitor can't know at that moment.  I mean, seriously.  Time travel?  Who sees that coming?  

 

I think your reasoning is off.  The templars are divided, something the Inquisitor can see early on without yet picking sides, but

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with their leadership being misled down a bad path by the demon.

 Getting rid of the bad eggs who are dividing the Order isn't going to stop the civil war.  It's just going to leave them more organized to go after the mages more effectively instead of it just being the mooks who disobeyed orders to go hunting mages on their own, (which the player cleans up in one of the early quests in the Hinterlands anyway).

 

The mage's biggest problem isn't that the templar leaders have severe cranial-rectomitis--they do, it's just not the mages' biggest problem--the mages' biggest problem is they can't sneeze without the templars immediately going all 'kill kill stabbity' on them.  

 

At least that's how my Inquisitor viewed it anyway.

 

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That the opposite faction you don't pick end up dead/part of Corypheus' army is irrelevant since (as you accurately point out) the Inquisitor isn't going to know that ahead of time.

 

Ultimately, picking to aid the mages is the only way to end the civil war, even if you do make enemies of the rest of the order.  The only way the order will ever stop persecuting mages is if you change how they think and wean them off the lyrium.  And that is the Chantry's doing with their indoctrination, addicting the Order to lyrium to control them, and the result of centuries of anti-mage propaganda, not

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the demon's.

 This is evident by how easily

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the demon manages to infiltrate and control them, even getting them to use Red Lyrium with a 'don't ask questions, just do what I say" byline being followed like sheep.

 And, in any rate, not something that can be overcome in the pace of time we are afforded for the game.  It may take decades to undo centuries of prejudice/hate.  And the good PR mages can get helping

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to 'save the world/seal the breach'

may do more for them in the long run than stopping a few templars from poking them with sharp, pointy objects, which would be (from my perspective) a short term solution at best since, inside of a generation, the leadership will be changing hands anyway.

 

Using spoiler tags as this is an origins thread and trying not to spoiler Inquisition for folks who haven't been reading up on it or played it yet, major spoiler under the tag for Inquisition.  

 

Frankly, I would have preferred an option to recruit both sides.  That may have made for interesting evenings in the fort, but it would have ensured all involved were working together to solve the crisis and would have done a lot more toward ending the mage/templar conflict.

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 As it is, the Inquisition already has several templars working under Cullen's direction and it causes issues with mages if you recruit them.  So even being part of the Inquisition isn't an ideal resolution.

[Neuro]

What's the biggest problem the mages have?  The Templar leadership have their heads firmly up their own butts.  What's the biggest problem the Templar have? Same.  Right at the moment where the inquisitor makes the choice, the mages may be the more inviting opportunity, but the Templars are the real problem that need to be fixed if an end is to be put to the civil war.  Based on what my character knows at that moment, if the mages join the Inquisition, the civil war will continue, only now the Templars will be attacking the Inquisition.  If on the the other hand the Inquisitor gets the Templars, the civil war can actually be ended and I can get the mages help as well.  

 

Now that's wrong of course, but it's wrong because of things that the Inquisitor can't know at that moment.  I mean, seriously.  Time travel?  Who sees that coming?  

 

I definitely see your logic.  My Canon Inquisitor usually sides with the mages for a couple of reasons, however.  

 

1) Templars are averse to even attempting to meet with the Inquisition (if you try all the friendly/peaceful dialogue options with the Demon/Commander dude in Val Royeaux, they are still to no avail).  So, from an in-game perspective, it made sense just to go check out what the Mages wanted at first.  

 

2) When you first go to meet with Fiona in Redcliffe, it immediately becomes clear that there's something suspicious going on that requires further investigation.  Hence, it makes sense to pursue that, and before you know it, you've "sided" with the mages, technically.  

 

3) Meta-game reason: Fiona becoming an adversary of the Inquisition-- I dislike that strongly haha.  It reemphasizes Dragon Age's focus on the moral relativity/situational morality of any one person or persons, which I like (she's an adversary, but not necessarily a villain-- similar arguments can be made for Calpernia and Samson)

 

I get your point though-- if you hypothetically fixed the Templar Order, and got them to be more reasonable, hopefully the Mages would as well, as that would address a main issue of the mage rebellion.  

 

I also think, and this may be a bias, but I view the mages as the more persecuted group here, and I tend to side with them for that reason.  

 

Honestly, the "conscript vs. ally" decision is more difficult, for me-- or not more difficult, rather (I always ally with them), but I wish there was a middle ground between conscript and ally.  Because while I would say my PC supports many of the claims and reasons behind the mage rebellion, I certainly do not support all of the actions the rebellion/members of the rebellion have taken, and an "alliance" could be perceived to legitimize some of these actions.  

 

Cheers!

[Neuro]

Cheers all,

 

I was traveling domestically for a bit and am now back @ home.  Intend to finish DA:O and DAII in the next couple weeks.  

 

I'll have more, but here's one query:

Is it impossible to spare Loghain and simultaneously *not* infuriate Alistair royally?

 

I'm not so psyched on killing Loghain after he yields, but I also don't want to lose Alistair, nor my Warden's friendship with him.  From what I've read, it seems that you have to either kill Loghain or lose Alistair/lose friendship with Alistair (he leaves the Wardens in rage, or leaves the Wardens to be king, but does so quite unfriendly-like).  He's one of my favorite characters, and neither of those options are appealing to me.  

 

Is there no way to preserve friendship with Alistair, but also spare Loghain? I don't want to spare Loghain to use him for the US necessarily (or for the Fade in DA:I), either, just for story purposes-- I believe in his potential for redemption, for reserving final judgment.  

 

Cheers!

[sylvanaerie]

Cheers all,

 

I was traveling domestically for a bit and am now back @ home.  Intend to finish DA:O and DAII in the next couple weeks.  

 

I'll have more, but here's one query:

Is it impossible to spare Loghain and simultaneously *not* infuriate Alistair royally?

 

I'm not so psyched on killing Loghain after he yields, but I also don't want to lose Alistair, nor my Warden's friendship with him.  From what I've read, it seems that you have to either kill Loghain or lose Alistair/lose friendship with Alistair (he leaves the Wardens in rage, or leaves the Wardens to be king, but does so quite unfriendly-like).  He's one of my favorite characters, and neither of those options are appealing to me.  

 

Is there no way to preserve friendship with Alistair, but also spare Loghain? I don't want to spare Loghain to use him for the US necessarily (or for the Fade in DA:I), either, just for story purposes-- I believe in his potential for redemption, for reserving final judgment.  

 

Cheers!

 

Everyone has their breaking point.  For Alistair, it's Loghain.  The only way to keep Alistair on your team and preserve the friendship is to kill Loghain.  Even hardening Alistair, marrying him to Anora and making Loghain a GW doesn't do that.  Essentially Loghain's responsible for the death of Alistair's only friends/family prior to the PC and he will only be satisfied with blood.

 

Petty maybe, but I think it shows the depth of the character's writing that you can't just 'pursuade' him to give in to the PC's PoV.

[Mike3207]

To add on, your friendship won't get back on track as long as Loghain is alive. You really will have to choose which is more important-having Loghain do the US and get your friendship with Alistair back on track by Awakening, or do the dark ritual to spare Loghain and just accept your friendship with Alistair is in a holding pattern.

[Bondari the Reloader]

Honestly, this was probably the hardest choice in the game for me. I really didn't want to kill Loghain after he surrendered, especially since my Warden promised Anora that she would spare his life if she could. She hated him, and understood Alistair's far greater hatred of him, but like you, I believed he could possibly be redeemed. If I remember correctly, the PC can at least express uncertainty/reluctance about killing him. Alistair gets angry, but as long as Loghain dies your friendship remains intact. If it helps ease your conscience any, Loghain is actually pretty accepting of his fate, and his goodbye to Anora is a truly lovely moment.

[Neuro]

Everyone has their breaking point.  For Alistair, it's Loghain.  The only way to keep Alistair on your team and preserve the friendship is to kill Loghain.  Even hardening Alistair, marrying him to Anora and making Loghain a GW doesn't do that.  Essentially Loghain's responsible for the death of Alistair's only friends/family prior to the PC and he will only be satisfied with blood.

 

Petty maybe, but I think it shows the depth of the character's writing that you can't just 'pursuade' him to give in to the PC's PoV.

 

 

To add on, your friendship won't get back on track as long as Loghain is alive. You really will have to choose which is more important-having Loghain do the US and get your friendship with Alistair back on track by Awakening, or do the dark ritual to spare Loghain and just accept your friendship with Alistair is in a holding pattern.

 

No, I agree entirely-- it's good writing and a genuine dilemma, genuine character depth.  I honestly haven't played the game for the last couple days haha because I'm not sure how to move forward with this.  

 

I don't intend to use Loghain for the US, but I don't really like the thought of killing him after he's yield and more or less admitted some wrongdoing.  I killed Caladrius in the Alienage after he yielded because the dude was ready to kill all the slaves in a blood magic ritual as a means of escaping his fate.  Little sympathy for him.  By that same logic perhaps, Loghain should not be spared...but, it's a difficult decision, honestly.    

 

The game really does raise questions of morality and capital punishment-- laws of the individual vs. the state, too.  

 

Cheers

[Neuro]

Honestly, this was probably the hardest choice in the game for me. I really didn't want to kill Loghain after he surrendered, especially since my Warden promised Anora that she would spare his life if she could. She hated him, and understood Alistair's far greater hatred of him, but like you, I believed he could possibly be redeemed. If I remember correctly, the PC can at least express uncertainty/reluctance about killing him. Alistair gets angry, but as long as Loghain dies your friendship remains intact. If it helps ease your conscience any, Loghain is actually pretty accepting of his fate, and his goodbye to Anora is a truly lovely moment.

 

Thanks for your reply-- actually haha, the fact that he so readily accepts his fate and gives a great goodbye to Anora makes it harder to slay him right there, no? I understand Alistair's fury, to be sure, but the fact that it doesn't diminish (his outrage) and that it relegates him to the terrible fate of either a wandering drunk or an angry King, I don't know, this going to be hard for me to figure out.  

 

Do we know what Alistair says in Inquisition or DA II if he leaves your Warden/doesn't have high approval rating?  Currently every member of my party has an extremely high approval rating, even without gifts really, with the exception of Oghren & Shale because I just picked them up, really.  I know what Morrigan says about the Warden if you refuse the DR, and it's interesting: "we didn't leave things on good terms...one of the larger regrets of my life," etc., something to that effect.  I love the growth of characters.  

 

cheers!

[caradoc2000]

Do we know what Alistair says in Inquisition or DA II if he leaves your Warden/doesn't have high approval rating?

If he leaves your party in DAO and

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becomes a wandering drunk, he is pretty funny when you meet him in the Kirkwall tavern in DA2.

[Vlada47]

Well you have to decide that yourself I'm afraid... what is more important to you - being merciful towards Loghain or keeping the friendship with Alistair. Practically speaking - neither will give you much. Question out of curiosity - do you role-play some particular character or do you choose things to your own taste?

[sylvanaerie]

Thanks for your reply-- actually haha, the fact that he so readily accepts his fate and gives a great goodbye to Anora makes it harder to slay him right there, no? I understand Alistair's fury, to be sure, but the fact that it doesn't diminish (his outrage) and that it relegates him to the terrible fate of either a wandering drunk or an angry King, I don't know, this going to be hard for me to figure out.  

 

Do we know what Alistair says in Inquisition or DA II if he leaves your Warden/doesn't have high approval rating?  Currently every member of my party has an extremely high approval rating, even without gifts really, with the exception of Oghren & Shale because I just picked them up, really.  I know what Morrigan says about the Warden if you refuse the DR, and it's interesting: "we didn't leave things on good terms...one of the larger regrets of my life," etc., something to that effect.  I love the growth of characters.  

 

cheers!

 

If Loghain is alive, Alistair makes no mention of him in Inquisition at all.

 

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His cameo as king precludes any chance of the Inquisitor to talk about anything with him.  And he doesn't turn up as a drunk (the only other fate he could have if Loghain was recruited) at all.

 

In DA2 if Loghain is alive, in his king cameo,

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Alistair will mention him with bitterness, the friendship he had with the warden is still destroyed even after 7 years.  Those players who claim 'he gets over it' are fooling themselves.  If Loghain is dead (US), I am unsure.  Maybe he is less PO'ed for a US'ed Loghain, but considering your warden is present with Alistair only in Origins, for game purposes, it doesn't matter what he thinks or doesn't think in subsequent games he turns up for 5 minutes in.  You need to decide for purposes of Origins' story what you want to do.

 

His drunk cameo in the tavern raised concerns for me Eamon was trying to bring him back to stir up trouble, but Inquisition's events put that to rest for me since nothing is heard of Drunk Alistair, any rebellion raised in his name and Eamon is not even mentioned in Inquisition.  A missed opportunity I should think.

 

Personally I was only able to spare Loghain once as he really pushes a raw nerve with me and it was only for the purpose of seeing things I hadn't in the game (right before DA2 was released).  Also to have a 'drunk Alistair' import for DA2 because Teagan is awesome in that cameo!

 

For low approval, I can't say since I always had high approvals with him for my imports when he does show up (the exception of drunk Alistair).

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 However, on my King Cousland import he spoke as if the HoF and he had some kind of falling out (DR was also done by Gawain).  Perhaps that had something to do with it, but I had to wonder if maybe it had to do with Gawain taking the throne and putting Anora in charge.  Alistair was unhardened on that run and Loghain was killed in the Landsmeet.

 

[Mike3207]

I suspect Eamon sent Teagan to bring Alistair back to assume the throne in the Drunk Alistair cameo. The Warden disappears and Anora might need another King to stabilize the realm. Nothing to base that on, just my headcanon.

 

If true, that would mean the only way to not end up with a King Alistair would be to make him a Warden or kill him. It might be in time a Warden Alistair also ends up on the throne, so you have limited options if you don't want him on the throne.

[Vlada47]

Funny thing - devs probably considered having both Alistair and Loghain in the party at some point - https://www.youtube....h?v=OX0dZUOg8Qo

[sjsharp2011]

Hey all,

 

I just got into the DA universe this year with Inquisition, which I love and have logged many hours into.  I like it so much that, in the lull between new DLC and games, I intend to now play DA: O and DA II (the latter of which I only played briefly, and I confess I didn't immediately get the appeal-- I do now).  

 

Do you have any advice for a first-time PT?  I'm thinking of doing Female City Elf, or Male Human Noble-- I'm somewhat undecided.  I'm really looking forward to either romancing or bromancing it up with Alistair, and also to potentially wooing Leliana.  

 

Feel free as well to throw some DA II Hawke advice in here, too-- I'll be playing it thereafter.  I'm really looking forward to creating the world states, and subsequently starting a new playthrough in Inquisition, too.

 

Cheers! 

yeah that's kind of how I play the series too these days currently nearing the end of a DAO run right now.Following up with DA2 and DAI afterwards. The only thing I would suggest for Origins is be careful as to where you spend your points as you upgrade as Origins is a more complicated game compared to DA2 and Inquisition. As Origins can be confusing in this area which can make the game tricky to progress through. Once you've mastered it though the game can be extremely enjoyable and satisfying to play

[Neuro]

Well you have to decide that yourself I'm afraid... what is more important to you - being merciful towards Loghain or keeping the friendship with Alistair. Practically speaking - neither will give you much. Question out of curiosity - do you role-play some particular character or do you choose things to your own taste?

 

Yeah-- honestly it's a difficult decision.  

 

To answer your query: I do both (role-playing a character, but also things to my taste) in different games, but in this case and this playthrough of Origins, I'm referring to my personal feelings of conflict over empathy for Loghain, but loving Alistair.

 

You can look at acting (and thus role-playing in VGs) as playing different characters, or playing different versions of yourself, or that we all contain many versions of many people within ourselves.  All three are valid, I tend to believe more in the latter two.  Thus, even when RPing a character, some of my own personality may factor in.  

[Neuro]

If Loghain is alive, Alistair makes no mention of him in Inquisition at all.

 

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His cameo as king precludes any chance of the Inquisitor to talk about anything with him.  And he doesn't turn up as a drunk (the only other fate he could have if Loghain was recruited) at all.

 

In DA2 if Loghain is alive, in his king cameo,

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Alistair will mention him with bitterness, the friendship he had with the warden is still destroyed even after 7 years.  Those players who claim 'he gets over it' are fooling themselves.  If Loghain is dead (US), I am unsure.  Maybe he is less PO'ed for a US'ed Loghain, but considering your warden is present with Alistair only in Origins, for game purposes, it doesn't matter what he thinks or doesn't think in subsequent games he turns up for 5 minutes in.  You need to decide for purposes of Origins' story what you want to do.

 

His drunk cameo in the tavern raised concerns for me Eamon was trying to bring him back to stir up trouble, but Inquisition's events put that to rest for me since nothing is heard of Drunk Alistair, any rebellion raised in his name and Eamon is not even mentioned in Inquisition.  A missed opportunity I should think.

 

Personally I was only able to spare Loghain once as he really pushes a raw nerve with me and it was only for the purpose of seeing things I hadn't in the game (right before DA2 was released).  Also to have a 'drunk Alistair' import for DA2 because Teagan is awesome in that cameo!

 

For low approval, I can't say since I always had high approvals with him for my imports when he does show up (the exception of drunk Alistair).

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 However, on my King Cousland import he spoke as if the HoF and he had some kind of falling out (DR was also done by Gawain).  Perhaps that had something to do with it, but I had to wonder if maybe it had to do with Gawain taking the throne and putting Anora in charge.  Alistair was unhardened on that run and Loghain was killed in the Landsmeet.

 

 

Cheers-- thanks for the info.  Oof, this is a difficult decision.  

 

Relatedly: where do we all stand on making Alistair king?  Good for Ferelden? Good for Alistair? Both, neither?  I've seen his appearance in DA:I, of course, in my own playthroughs, and he does seem to be doing quite well, but he certainly seems displeased at the moment.  

 

I played through the Landsmeet and all today, just to see how it would go.  Won the Landsmeet, slew Loghain, and put Alistair on the throne (navigating the marriage thing was tricky, and I knew I wasn't going to save this PT, so was just seeing how it went).  Didn't feel particularly good about it-- and Alistair himself being displeased afterwards didn't help haha.  

 

Wish I could just put Sandal on the throne.  ENCHANTMENT for everyone, all societal problems solved.  

[sylvanaerie]

Cheers-- thanks for the info.  Oof, this is a difficult decision.  

 

Relatedly: where do we all stand on making Alistair king?  Good for Ferelden? Good for Alistair? Both, neither?  I've seen his appearance in DA:I, of course, in my own playthroughs, and he does seem to be doing quite well, but he certainly seems displeased at the moment.  

 

I played through the Landsmeet and all today, just to see how it would go.  Won the Landsmeet, slew Loghain, and put Alistair on the throne (navigating the marriage thing was tricky, and I knew I wasn't going to save this PT, so was just seeing how it went).  Didn't feel particularly good about it-- and Alistair himself being displeased afterwards didn't help haha.  

 

Wish I could just put Sandal on the throne.  ENCHANTMENT for everyone, all societal problems solved.  

 

On making him king I do on certain NPCs.  Most of the time I leave Anora solo on the throne.  Took me a long time to do as I tended to go with him solo king a lot in the first days of playing.  But he doesn't want it (even hardened) and I feel he should be given the right to choose his path (as anyone).   He's much happier as a grey warden.  Certainly being king doesn't eliminate the taint and his skills as a warden are wasted in the palace.  My Surana (canon) makes him king, my Lady Cousland as well.  All the others put Anora in charge for different reasons.

 

Although Ferelden does better with a combo of him and Anora ruling, I've rarely done it.  On a personal level for both of them, it sucks.

[Neuro]

On making him king I do on certain NPCs.  Most of the time I leave Anora solo on the throne.  Took me a long time to do as I tended to go with him solo king a lot in the first days of playing.  But he doesn't want it (even hardened) and I feel he should be given the right to choose his path (as anyone).   He's much happier as a grey warden.  Certainly being king doesn't eliminate the taint and his skills as a warden are wasted in the palace.  My Surana (canon) makes him king, my Lady Cousland as well.  All the others put Anora in charge for different reasons.

 

Although Ferelden does better with a combo of him and Anora ruling, I've rarely done it.  On a personal level for both of them, it sucks.

I agree on him being given the right to choose what he wants, particularly in this scenario: he's not neglecting a duty or such, he just doesn't desire the throne & power.  Why do you choose to put him on the throne in those playthroughs (Surana & Lady Cousland)?

 

I know Ferelden does well with Anora & Alistair ruling, but I was under (somewhat) the impression that the marriage eventually worked personally/romantically for them, as well?  Not sure where I got that impression, however, might've been just a feeling or a single youtube comment.

 

My worry about keeping Alistair as Warden is twofold:

1) then I either have to sacrifice him or Hawke in the Fade and

2) he doesn't seem particularly cheery as a Warden, no?  I got the vibe he was somewhat friendless as a Warden ("I need to change my name...yes, that was me, all lots of fun...but nobody cares about that anymore, I answer to Warden-Commander Clarel, like everyone else").  

That just seemed a bit sad when I heard it, but perhaps it was a particularly dry case of Alistair's trademark sarcasm. 

 

Cheers

[Pee Jae]

Oops. I got here too late. I was going to say head to Lothering as soon as possible to pick up Sten and Leliana. 

[sylvanaerie]

For RP reasons, Surana hopes he will change things for the better for mages since she's his mistress, Cousland marries him and rules with him.  For gaming purposes, I wanted a mistress and a wife import for DA2.  That's pretty much the gist of why those two.

 

Other times he's a warden.  He's happier in that role, I think.  I think his lines in DAI are more the patented Alistair sarcasm, combined with maybe a little bit of disenfranchisement with what the wardens are doing in Inquisition than any real dissatisfaction in his role there.  Maybe also missing how things were with the warden.  After all, it was just the two of them.  Kind of hard to go back to being one of many after ending a Blight with only two of you.

 

I remember thinking, after saving the world, where were they going to go after that?  Maybe that's a bit of what Alistair is feeling.