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[The Devlish Redhead]

I'm picturing a software package where you could input the models stats as you want them, a range of clothes and locations and do virtual shoots indistinguishable from attending a shoot in person.

Just to expand on this..

I input the following..

Model 5"9 brunette
athletic build, longish arms and legs <adjusts these to suit>
location Paris around mid day.
<inputs selection of clothes>
<starts virtual poses>
<takes photos>

 

Could this be done one day easily or would something like this need a lot of work to produce a package that everyone could use with a minimal learning curve?

[Fidite Nemini]

Lots of people/companies already do.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Lots of people/companies already do.

 

I know but it's nowhere near something that could replace the use of live models on photo shoots. That's the kind of application I was thinking of.  Something with dynamic lighting and control over every part of the environment.  But that could be used to do shoots instead of hiring a model.

[Rawgrim]

CGI has already replaced models, I think. Pics of models these days are almost always manipulated in a ton of ways.

[The Devlish Redhead]

CGI has already replaced models, I think. Pics of models these days are almost always manipulated in a ton of ways.

 

Yes but that is Photoshop.  That's manipulation of an image already taken with a camera. Not an image totally generated in a digital format from start to finish.  I've never used that at all ..  I believe what you photograph should be what you show to people.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Provide me a 5'6" Brunette with Hazel eyes and... oh wait...

[Fast Jimmy]

For still photos, MAYBE. You'd need insanely good tools and lots of time to produce photo realism for even one picture, nothing that would be cost effective over hiring a pretty face and a camera man for an hour photo shoot.

For movement/animation/video... no. We're not there (or anywhere close to there). The best CGI animation is based off of tons of motion capture to simulate each motion and contour during even pedestrian movements. We aren't at a point where motion capture is even an easy technology, so replacing it entirely isn't on the horizon anytime soon, I don't think.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Yeah, there is no big percentage of people who even can actually create CGI like this:

 

[Fast Jimmy]

Yeah, there is no big percentage of people who even can actually create CGI like this:

https://www.youtube....h?v=RYHaarxQTFk

And that was done with extensive motion capture and live modeling (obviously of The Rock).

[The Devlish Redhead]

I know it would take insane amounts of time to do one or two photos like how I describe but could software like that happen in the future as computing power grows?

 

BTW I did try a program along these lines called Poser but it had a rather nice learning curve which I did not have the patience to do. But it kind of was along the lines of what I described if primitive.

[Torgette]

I know it would take insane amounts of time to do one or two photos like how I describe but could software like that happen in the future as computing power grows?

 

BTW I did try a program along these lines called Poser but it had a rather nice learning curve which I did not have the patience to do. But it kind of was along the lines of what I described if primitive.

 

Possibly, but if faking photos gets easy then there will be backlash and it'll be popular to make photos be as authentically real as possible.

[Fast Jimmy]

I know it would take insane amounts of time to do one or two photos like how I describe but could software like that happen in the future as computing power grows?

BTW I did try a program along these lines called Poser but it had a rather nice learning curve which I did not have the patience to do. But it kind of was along the lines of what I described if primitive.

Well, it's not just a matter of processing power, but also having a sufficiently diverse and deep library of assets to draw from. We have decades of experience to know what someone means when they say "5'4" brunette female" but a computer could produce a picture of an insanely tall brown dog and be accurate within that description.

The question is not the doing, but rather the translation of the request to the finished product. That's the largest hurdle, not the actual rendering. A computer could create the pixels for a photo realistic picture as easily as it generates a real photo... the issue is it has no way of knowing that's what the request is.

[Fast Jimmy]

Could it replace live pornography? In my experience, no.

Do you mean live pornography, as in video porn with live actors? Or watching porn live, as in person, right in front of you?

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Don't they already do this? isn't this how Jaden Smith has a carrier?  

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

You told me you sold Muffins.

[Fast Jimmy]

Yes. For all anyone here knows, I am, in fact, a porn director.

[Cknarf]

I'm waiting for them to perfect boob jiggle.

[Inprea]

I've thought about this a few times and your comment got me to think of this video https://www.youtube....h?v=BEWAmfwC-XY. It isn't photo realistic of course but the neat thing is that was being rendered in time. Just by three very expensive graphics cards.

 

Personally I do believe we're approaching a time in which CGI will obtain photo realism. A time I'm very eager for so game makers can stop focusing on graphics and put more energy into story and game play. By energy I mean money and approaching I'm hoping within the next ten years. I imagine we've already reached a point where we can expect to see a lot of resources sharing. For example using the same buildings in a variety of games rather than remaking effectively the same building for both games. 

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

It seems like CG is cheaper and less work intensive than traditional animation. At least, that's the impression people get from CG anime vs normal anime. A lower general quality.

I also feel like the way Disney focuses exclusively on these hyper deformed CGs now is a step back from traditional animation.

 

It seems that the traditional animation needs more handjob and the CG Animation needs more mousejob. Both of them have their own kind of difficulties.