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Jeremiah12LGeek

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The best advice I ever got about reload cancelling was to watch for the smoke as your indicator.

 

Most people say to listen for the click, but that is actually too early, and will consistently cancel the reload before the clip fills. Watching for the smoke to eject during the animation is the most reliable method to learn the timing of reload canceling. Eventually, you get a sense of when during the reload audio it is safe to cancel, and you won't need to watch the animation, anymore.

 



some people actually buy into this reload canceling, hold hands with the enemy

 

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Give Uncle Scrotor a hug!



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Heldarion

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My perspective is from proper and balanced game design, tight gameplay, and great difficulty balance. Something I obsess over & study in every game I really get into from NES era > Arcades > present day gaming > Japanese devs VS the West, and so on. Sadly today's games are not about proper balance and long term relay value through challenge a la old school games. It's only about great graphics and catering to gamer that can't play videogames to begin with.

 

You found the wrong game to complain about, then.



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Terminator Force

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You found the wrong game to complain about, then.

 

Or the wrong era.



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NuclearTech76

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The best advice I ever got about reload cancelling was to watch for the smoke as your indicator.

 

Most people say to listen for the click, but that is actually too early, and will consistently cancel the reload before the clip fills. Watching for the smoke to eject during the animation is the most reliable method to learn the timing of reload canceling. Eventually, you get a sense of when during the reload audio it is safe to cancel, and you won't need to watch the animation, anymore.

 


 

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Give Uncle Scrotor a hug!

What is that thing and why is it humping that poor human?



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You want OP? Check out archery action cancelling in Elder Scrolls Online. It makes RC look tame.

 

No. Actually let me amend that, hell no they're not OP. The high-damage low capacity (1-4 shots) sniper rifles in this game are powerful, sure, but rightfully so. 

 

 

FTFY, because Destroyer



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dear diary,

today on bsn i was torn between two separate, conflicting desires;

1.) should i make a post insinuating that people who use video game weapons i don't like are scrubs and video game weapons that people use more effectively than I do are OP (and thus only used by scrubs, becuz who needs good weapons in a PVE game, amirite boiz?) should i use one hand while typing this? should i invent a mechanism that allows me to type whilst fellating myself?

or

2.) should i leave my basement and go outside?

Diary, I think you know which one I chose.

Yours, TT Turian.
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Terminator Force

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You found the wrong game to complain about, then.

 

But I sure found the right place.

 

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BioWareAre****s

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dear diary,

today on bsn i was torn between two separate, conflicting desires;

1.) should i make a post insinuating that people who use video game weapons i don't like are scrubs and video game weapons that people use more effectively than I do are OP (and thus only used by scrubs, becuz who needs good weapons in a PVE game, amirite boiz?) should i use one hand while typing this? should i invent a mechanism that allows me to type whilst fellating myself?

or

2.) should i leave my basement and go outside?

Diary, I think you know which one I chose.

Yours, TT Turian.

 

What's this "outside" place? Is it a new map? 


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dear diary,

today on bsn i was torn between two separate, conflicting desires;

1.) should i make a post insinuating that people who use video game weapons i don't like are scrubs and video game weapons that people use more effectively than I do are OP (and thus only used by scrubs, becuz who needs good weapons in a PVE game, amirite boiz?) should i use one hand while typing this? should i invent a mechanism that allows me to type whilst fellating myself?

or

2.) should i leave my basement and go outside?

Diary, I think you know which one I chose.

Yours, TT Turian.

How would that even work? 



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JGDD

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How would that even work? 

Who cares? Just embrace eternity and give it a like.



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Terminator Force

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But there are no Turians outside.



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What's this "outside" place? Is it a new map? 

 

Must be a secret DLC that's not available for download to us just yet.


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What is that thing and why is it humping that poor human?

 

Uncle Scrotor? Why, he's a Mew-tant. A Mew-tant from the planet Metaluna.

 

 

You have not lived until you have seen This Island Earth as done by Mystery Science Theatre 3000.

 

 

Well, if you're into that kind of thing, anyway.



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I am a fan of RC, but I do have to admit I was frustrated when Claymore GI were OSOK everything while BioWare was nerfing the hell out of Sniper Rifle TC, and doing nothing about the shotties. I got over that when they finally rebuffed every SR, but the Valiant.


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Lets look at it from epeen perspective. I aim with Widow at a Phantoms head, while you aim with the Hurricane. Who's going to get the kill?

 

Assuming your aim is true, you'll get the kill. And you'll deserve it, as it's not easy to headshot a Phantom with a Widow.

 

Still, by the time you've reloaded, I've already shot the next two Phantoms in the train.

 

Your point?



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Assuming your aim is true, you'll get the kill. And you'll deserve it, as it's not easy to headshot a Phantom with a Widow.

 

Still, by the time you've reloaded, I've already shot the next two Phantoms in the train.

 

Your point?

 

How about less fire rate would balance it better in a future ME. That's kinda what I was going for.



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I am a fan of RC, but I do have to admit I was frustrated when Claymore GI were OSOK everything while BioWare was nerfing the hell out of Sniper Rifle TC, and doing nothing about the shotties. I got over that when they finally rebuffed every SR, but the Valiant.

 

This has nothing to do with Claymore (or other powerful single shot guns) and everything to do with the inherently broken infiltrators, GI being the most broken of them all.

 

The problem of sniper rifles wasn't so much the damage but the shield gate, which pellet-based guns could always work around, while single-shot weapons never could, until the introduction of Phasic Rounds.


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To get the full potential out of a sniper rifle one must be accurate, be able to headshot, learn to track moving targets, learn to headshot moving targets, learn to RC, learn to quickscope in close quarters, learn to be situationally aware (the world inside a scope is quite small, very easy to get tunnel vision), learn to switch targets quickly, and that's just off the top of my head. With a sniper rifle if you miss your shot, you're dead. Enemies have home in accuracy, players do not.

 

So true. Now if these weapons gave us the same thread the needle from any range and angle on the other hand...



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There are other than 1 shot sniper rifles? I didn't notice.

 

I think you and I are gonna go along very, very well :D You on PC? We could BOOOM some melons together.

 



I'm going to put two words in a sentence that should never belong together. Without reload canceling, the Claymore would suck.

 

Does not compute. Would taking away reload canceling change its sound, somehow? :wub:

 

 

 



I am a fan of RC, but I do have to admit I was frustrated when Claymore GI were OSOK everything while BioWare was nerfing the hell out of Sniper Rifle TC, and doing nothing about the shotties. I got over that when they finally rebuffed every SR, but the Valiant.

 

 



This has nothing to do with Claymore (or other powerful single shot guns) and everything to do with the inherently broken infiltrators, GI being the most broken of them all.

 

The problem of sniper rifles wasn't so much the damage but the shield gate, which pellet-based guns could always work around, while single-shot weapons never could, until the introduction of Phasic Rounds.

 

I happen to disagree, somewhat. Infiltrators, with the GI on top, being broken is out of discussion of course.

 

But it's not only that. Shotguns are, objectively speaking I think, badly balanced for this game, in and for themselves.

 

And the reason is one, and one only: smart choke. Most overpowered piece of motherfuckingly awesome mod ever conceived :wub:


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I think you and I are gonna go along very, very well :D You on PC? We could BOOOM some melons together.

 

I am, bring out the Booms.

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I am, bring out the Booms.

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Will send a FR then ;)

Oh and, that is sooooooo going to be me when I unlock the Claymore in ME4!!! :D :D :D

 

 

Edit - have some troubles finding you on Origin. Is you ID the same as here?



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I hope we get that Reload Cancelling DLC for $5.99 in Andromeda.



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I agree that smart choke is a bit too good, the bonus should be something like 30%. Also, I think shotguns shouldn't be affected by any other accuracy bonuses such as Hunter Mode.

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I hope we get that Reload Cancelling DLC for $5.99 in Andromeda.

 

That only activates when two or more pugs die on you, so soloing isn't so bad.



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I agree that smart choke is a bit too good, the bonus should be something like 30%. Also, I think shotguns shouldn't be affected by any other accuracy bonuses such as Hunter Mode.

 

I wish I spoke Deebers language so I too could steer topics in the right direction again. ... Maybe if I stole his avatar I too would gain the Deerber language...