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[Dovahzeymahlkey]

so actual question because i do not know, asari have very long lifespans, but from my understanding there isn't anything keeping them from popping out a kid every year i mean do we know how long asari gestation is? don't they basically choose when to get pregnant

 mean for all intensive purposes asari would be able to populate a planet incredibly quickly,same with krogan i assume salarians lay eggs not sure why

 

(holy crap do turians lay eggs?)

(wait asari dont have sex...how do they give birth....freaken rabbit hole no pun intended.)

Ah yes, do turians lay eggs. One of the great mysteries of mass effect such as, how do Krogans poop and, do Asaris look like humans or did they evolve in a way to attain a universal female form in every race's eyes?

[Han Shot First]

so actual question because i do not know, asari have very long lifespans, but from my understanding there isn't anything keeping them from popping out a kid every year i mean do we know how long asari gestation is? don't they basically choose when to get pregnant

 mean for all intensive purposes asari would be able to populate a planet incredibly quickly,same with krogan i assume salarians lay eggs not sure why

 

(holy crap do turians lay eggs?)

(wait asari dont have sex...how do they give birth....freaken rabbit hole no pun intended.)

 

Asari do have sex, they just don't reproduce sexually.

 

The best guess for when Asari reach adulthood is sometime between 40 and 60 years. Liara is 106 in Mass Effect 1, and at that time she had been working as an archaeologist for 50 years. That would put her at 56 when she started her career, likely after some time in a university. Samara states that Morinth first left home in her 40s, though also adds that she was very young at the time. Additionally there is an Asari on Illium who can be overheard saying something about being 60 years old and 'finally' moving out of her parents house. That she uses the word finally might indicate that she remained with her parents somewhat longer than is usual. Between those three characters we can come up with an age range of 40 to 60 for adulthood, with 50 or so perhaps being closer to the mark, considering Samara & the Illium Asari's dialogue.

 

In any case it seems like it takes at least twice a long for an Asari to reach adulthood as a human. That would limit the amount of children any Asari couple could raise compared to a human couple in a similar timeframe. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

Ah yes, do turians lay eggs. One of the great mysteries of mass effect such as, how do Krogans poop and, do Asaris look like humans or did they evolve in a way to attain a universal female form in every race's eyes?

 

How do Asari sleep with their stiff tentacles pointing away from their head? Or Krogan with their hump? Imagine their bodies in bed. How would they have to contort themselves to be comfortable? Would Turians even care about soft pillows considering they have an exoskeleton?

 

How can most species even work with fine technology? Micro electronics? Have you seen their sausage fingers? Even Quarians have large digits.

[In Exile]

The Fermi paradox thing is nonsense in sci-fi, because you're not bound by it. You're specifically populating space with a lot of species. 

 

But more importantly, it also ignores the more important statistical point: we might just be one of the first (and therefore the precursor) species to become space-faring. It took earth a long time to come up with us, and we might well **** it up before we get to the stars. 

[BatarianBob]

I think you're giving Karpyshyn, and especially Walters too much credit if you think they've ever heard of, let alone understood Fermi's paradox.

Still, it was interesting to see it addressed, even if it was on accident. Most sci fi just ignores it completely.

[In Exile]

I think you're giving Karpyshyn, and especially Walters too much credit if you think they've ever heard of, let alone understood Fermi's paradox.

Still, it was interesting to see it addressed, even if it was on accident. Most sci fi just ignores it completely.

 

It's confirmed that this was the genesis of the reapers. But the fact they came up with the reapers shows they didn't get the paradox. 

[TeffexPope]

I am not sure the Fermi paradox applies here. For all we know we might be the first to discover intergalactic travel, so a first contact with a civilisation from Andromeda wasn't possible before.

 

The Reaper AI had limited energy/resources. It was tasked with finding a solution for the problem of organic/synthetic co-existence within the Leviathan empire. Other galaxies were never in its scope nor would it have had the resources to harvest another galaxy. It depended too much on the relay network and the mass effect technology present in the Milky Way.

 

Attacking another galaxy would also risk the loss of many Reaper vessels, which are the storage units for the harvested civilisations. The AI would violate its tasks if it didn't preserve organic life. Let's just ignore that it did so anyway in the Milky Way.

 

Trying to apply logic and scientific principles to the Mass Effect franchise will always fail. Everything is made up, almost nothing is based on science and the logic will fail because the ME universe isn't internally consistent.

Well, it's implied that they basically never lost any ships to their victims over the eons (we only know of two afaik), so it was a much safer option. They always had complete operational and strategic surprise on their victims, and complete tactical superiority. Their logic is not faulty here....

[Kabooooom]

The Fermi paradox thing is nonsense in sci-fi, because you're not bound by it. You're specifically populating space with a lot of species.

But more importantly, it also ignores the more important statistical point: we might just be one of the first (and therefore the precursor) species to become space-faring. It took earth a long time to come up with us, and we might well **** it up before we get to the stars.

I've always found this particular explanation to be the weakest one for the Fermi Paradox, to be honest, because it reeks of anthropocentrism.

At first we thought earth was at the center of the universe because god made us oh so spechul, but then we discovered earth revolved around the sun. Clearly then, we said, surely the sun is the center of the universe because it would be absurd otherwise as we are the most important beings in existence. But then we discovered our sun was one of many, and our galaxy one of many, in perhaps even a universe that is one of many. And worse still, that we were not divinely created, but merely an animal variant, a member of the Great Apes

For some, I think such anthropocentric ideals now induce a crisis of existence. We look to the stars for others like us, we listen and send out messages and we receive silence in response. We make statistical models on the likelihood of intelligent life, and mathematical models on how easy it would be to spread across the galaxy at sublightspeed. And then we say "well, clearly it is a paradox....unless WE are just so spechul that we are teh first! Yay us! Go humans."

But really, it is just a restatement of anthropocentrism. Just like helio and geocentrism before, we KNOW we are insignificant in the greater scheme of the universe but we just dont like to accept that. There are planets in the Milky Way that have been around for over twice as long as the Earth, mostly in red dwarf systems. There is ample opportunity for intelligent species to be billions of years more advanced than us. And yet we think WE are the first? Honestly, the idea makes me chuckle a little bit. Hopefully that brief history of scientific exposition of our place in nature makes you see why.

So no, I highly, highly, highly doubt that we are the first. And while self-extinction events are probably more common than not, it only takes one species to spread out to the stars to completely colonize the galaxy within fifty million years. Personally, I suspect that the answer to the Fermi paradox is either that we lack the means to detect them and they don't care about us, or that most civilizations are post-organic or synthetic.