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lots of bad endings expected in this?


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#226
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That works maybe once. Reapers don't need to hang out near the local relay, and they don't really need to use the secondaries.

I think the point wasn't to destroy the Reapers (they could just ftl away from the explosion anyway) but to destroy the Citadel and the intelligence controlling the Reapers



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No it didn't. It was stuck within its programming. Once the crucible was attached to the citadel, its programming was changed and gave it new solutions
 

It's programming allows it to butcher entire species, including their own creators, over a billion years, but it can't access the new battery plugged into it?   :huh:



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It's programming allows it to butcher entire species, including their own creators, over a billion years, but it can't access the new battery plugged into it?   :huh:

If refuse is chosen, it can shut it off



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If refuse is chosen, it can shut it off

Which makes that it can't use it on its own even more ridiculous.



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I think the point wasn't to destroy the Reapers (they could just ftl away from the explosion anyway) but to destroy the Citadel and the intelligence controlling the Reapers


That's an interesting strategy, all right. A real crapshoot, though -- Reapers without the Catalyst could do just about anything. Die? Continue with the plan? Abandon the cycles and just turn the whole galaxy into a plantation? Exterminate organics outright? Run the galaxy as a nature preserve for organics? Simply leave?

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I really hope to have a few "shady" endings instead of plain good or bad.



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That's an interesting strategy, all right. A real crapshoot, though -- Reapers without the Catalyst could do just about anything. Die? Continue with the plan? Abandon the cycles and just turn the whole galaxy into a plantation? Exterminate organics outright? Run the galaxy as a nature preserve for organics? Simply leave?

 

That's also assuming that destroying the Citadel would eliminate the Catalyst. 



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That's also assuming that destroying the Citadel would eliminate the Catalyst. 

If it was an option, I would try it. The Citadel does have engines according to Barla Von in ME1. Just fly it into the sun. Of course I like to be able to evacuate everyone before doing that if possible.


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That's an interesting strategy, all right. A real crapshoot, though -- Reapers without the Catalyst could do just about anything. Die? Continue with the plan? Abandon the cycles and just turn the whole galaxy into a plantation? Exterminate organics outright? Run the galaxy as a nature preserve for organics? Simply leave?

If we could try that while the Citadel was still in the Serpent's Nebula, rather than orbiting Earth, that would have made for a very interesting ending.

 

Especially the implications it would have for the relay network as a whole even if it did stop the Reapers.



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If it was an option, I would try it. The Citadel does have engines according to Barla Von in ME1. Just fly it into the sun. Of course I like to be able to evacuate everyone before doing that if possible.


I wouldn't. It would eat up time getting to the applicable control center (if the Reapers would even allow it) and figuring out how to properly pilot it, and its destruction would have unknown effects on the rest of the relay network throughout the galaxy. All for the off-chance that the billion-year-old collective knowledge of the Reapers is, and would remain, isolated to a single box on the Citadel.

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I wouldn't. It would eat up time getting to the applicable control center (if the Reapers would even allow it) and figuring out how to properly pilot it, and its destruction would have unknown effects on the rest of the relay network throughout the galaxy. All for the off-chance that the billion-year-old collective knowledge of the Reapers is, and would remain, isolated to a single box on the Citadel.

its not like they've impressed us with their wisdom in ME3

 

only having one backup is perfectly in character



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its not like they've impressed us with their wisdom in ME3
 
only having one backup is perfectly in character


Having at least two viable locations for your central intelligence and a way of networking your data isn't "wisdom", and no, that wouldn't be in character for beings that easily pass consciousness between organic-synthetic hybrid vessels.

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I wouldn't. It would eat up time getting to the applicable control center (if the Reapers would even allow it) and figuring out how to properly pilot it, and its destruction would have unknown effects on the rest of the relay network throughout the galaxy. All for the off-chance that the billion-year-old collective knowledge of the Reapers is, and would remain, isolated to a single box on the Citadel.

Lets say the crucible turned out to be a dud, and destroying the citadel was the only option left, I would do what I can to find a way to destroy it.

 

My concern, and I forgot to mention in my previous post, is even if the citadel is destroyed, couldn't the catalyst just have itself downloaded to maybe a reaper or maybe even the space station, if there is one, in dark space that the reapers use in between cycles?



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That's also assuming that destroying the Citadel would eliminate the Catalyst.


Right. So maybe nothing at all happens except that now you can't win the war.

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I think the point wasn't to destroy the Reapers (they could just ftl away from the explosion anyway) but to destroy the Citadel and the intelligence controlling the Reapers

 

No, the point was to destroy the Reaper fleet when it arrives and you get them all in one place but well I rewatched the ending of Arrival it doesn´t work probably. Seems that the explosion is slower than light speedbecause they have to show the bang. Seems that the contaiment field keeps the energy sphere together for a few seconds anyways.

Otherwise hit it with an FTL ship, the resulting nova should be faster than any Reaper ship trying to activate his drive. I haven´t seen any mini jumps at a moment´s notice from them so far even if destruction is imminent or when a fleet jumps in their rear. Ok Reapers aren´t really bright but you don´t need to be a genius to hit the gas, turn around and come back.

 

If you want to blow up the citadel, just send a big one through the conduit. No need to wreck surrounding relays.

 

I don´t think that the Catalyst has a backup. He should have but it seems he doesn´t. Why? Well the backup doesn´t go online when the crucible docks and changes the variables in a way that starkid thinks offering a way to blast away every Reaper in existence and itself is a good idea. That´s really big trojan. ;)



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Yes.

 

Not only does the villain win he also sleeps with your romance.

 

And he's "better."

 

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Man that kind of ending would rile me up lol.