I was chatting with another forum user in a private message... We were talking about ME:A would have to make up for the mistakes in the entire series, especially ME3.
I have high hopes for ME:A -- but I feel like after seeing a few users irate, that BioWare needs to get this game right or lose the trust of their fans forever.
What do you guys think?
I feel like no matter what they do some people are going to hate this game regardless of what it does right or wrong. Not saying it won't be for legit reasons, but some people I feel have gone too far overboard with their disdain for modern Bioware. I mean I know what it's like to feel like your favorite series has gone downhill. I personally hate how the Kingdom Hearts side games post-KH2 have made the story completely, and unredeemably convoluted to the point that I want KH3 mostly to see all those crazy plot threads finally close. But I've never claimed SE sucked, or was dying, nor have I let my personal hate for KH:DDD persist for years past when I played it. I think it sucks, but I've moved on and hope KH3 kicks butt.
Even if the game is a huge critical and financial success, even beloved by the majority of Bioware fans people are going to swear up and down that Bioware is dying and/ or Bioware can no longer do anything right. We've seen those thoughts from people who hate Inquisition, and unless I'm wrong ME has a bigger fanbase, which means an even larger negative reaction is bound to happen no matter what.
Yeah, which sucks. This game is already getting negative attention and there's barely any info out yet. When months leading up to its release and even after shall be interesting.
I have high hopes for ME:A -- but I feel like after seeing a few users irate, that BioWare needs to get this game right or lose the trust of their fans forever.
note this is not a "stab" at you or a "criticism" buuuuut.
keep in mind forum goers make up a very very veeerrrry small % of the people that buy and play BioWare games.
Of course they're going to lose fans, but those fans are likely already gone after ME3 (or prior)
worst case is people will just be more careful about the games from BioWare they buy.
Case in point. I was a huuuge BioWare fan since Baldur's Gate 1/MDK....for years if BioWare put it out, I bought it day one without looking at reviews. Which is silly of course.
However as time went on it was Dragon Age 2 that "broke the camels back" for me. I no longer buy BioWare games day one and always wait for reviews (the ONE exception was ME3) Now I don't hate the endings as much as a lot seem too but I'm still weary about BioWare anymore due to their drop in quality...they still make some great games but they are NOT the company they used to be.
Point being you can't go by the forums as an accurate account. Because it's only a small % and, by nature, forums are kinda negative...because that's how people vent. MMO forums (like SWTOR) being the worst kind....those happy just play the games and very few actually go to the forums...
So no I don't think they are under any pressure other than the norm put on them by EA to make quota's.
Nothing exceptional. There is always pressure, I'm not sure how much it will cost to make ME:A but suppose it's a 20 million dollar investment, and the IP goodwill is worth quite a bit as well, they will obviously want it to be well received.
You would think they will pay attention to the ending, and I'm pretty confident they will, but that's about the only undue pressure coming from ME3. Overall ME3 was an amazing game in spite of quite a few complaints. I sunk in over 1000 hours into the multiplayer, I was very happy with it.
Dragon Age 2 suffered from poor game design decisions. Mass Effect 2 was buggy as hell. Mass Effect 3 had those endings and Inquisition had a host of technical issues on the PC. Despite all this each game got rave reviews in the gaming media and sold a shed load of numbers. If they make another poor game in Andromeda, the gaming media will still lap it up, lauding them and people will still buy the game because of a reputation long since ceasing to be deserved. Bioware is not a company, it's an internal studio of EA. EA care only about sales figures so as long as their games continue to sell, I don't think it matters whether we're irate or not.
Immediately made me think of that...
At any rate, people have been saying that exact thing for every release since DA2 (and probably before, if we're being real)...people who are still buying Bioware games and complaining about them on the internet...
I highly doubt that Bioware will lose the trust of its fans if this game doesn't pan out. Well, maybe a few, but no matter what Bioware does its going to happen. It's already happening since we're moving to Andromeda and not staying in the Milky Way and that means we must be invaders, or we must be giving up everything we have grown to love about the Mass Effect games, and these people are complaining about how much this game will suck, and that we shouldn't trust the writers because one of them signed off on the ME3 ending.
People have been saying for years that they've given up on Bioware, yet every time a new game comes out, there they are complaining at the top of their lungs how bad the new game is.
And then there are the people who are hardcore loyal Bioware fans, since there are very, very few companies that can make a quality RPG where choice and consequence plays a theme, regardless of how well implemented. The Witcher series being a huge exception, but other than that, I can't think of a single company that specializes in RPG's that use choice, morality and consequences as major part of their games.
I like for game to be very good. I like for it to sell well.
I would be curious what will happen if the game doesn't do well
Don't know about Bioware, but I doubt EA was happy about the PR disaster that surrounded ME3. A repeat probably means no more Mass Effect.
Don't think EA can tell BioWare what they can and can't make... Unless I am mistaken.. Isn't their partnership a developer/publisher kind of thing?
Don't think EA can tell BioWare what they can and can't make... Unless I am mistaken.. Isn't their partnership a developer/publisher kind of thing?
BioWare like DICE was an independent studio that is now outright owned by EA.
Don't know about Bioware, but I doubt EA was happy about the PR disaster that surrounded ME3. A repeat probably means no more Mass Effect.
Let's be honest here.
As long as it makes money, EA will keep getting BioWare to make more of them regardless of if people on the internet rage about it.
Don't know about Bioware, but I doubt EA was happy about the PR disaster that surrounded ME3. A repeat probably means no more Mass Effect.
Don't know about Bioware, but I doubt EA was happy about the PR disaster that surrounded ME3. A repeat probably means no more Mass Effect.
EA is probably more interested in the game hitting sales expectations when deciding the future of an IP.
That doesn't bode well for those who think Inquisition handled certain aspects poorly. They could use the critical and economic success as an excuse to make ME Inquisition in space, which I do think is a legitimate fear. What saddens me is that ME was Bioware's last gen trend setter, while DA took some fundamentals from ME like the dialogue wheel and a human-only voiced protagonist. Now it seems to be reversed, but I hold out hope.
That doesn't bode well for those who think Inquisition handled certain aspects poorly. They could use the critical and economic success as an excuse to make ME Inquisition in space, which I do think is a legitimate fear. What saddens me is that ME was Bioware's last gen trend setter, while DA took some fundamentals from ME like the dialogue wheel and a human-only voiced protagonist. Now it seems to be reversed, but I hold out hope.
Bioware said it won't be. Despite DAI's success, MEA will follow a different formula or something like that.
ME3 ended up being the best-selling Mass Effect game. I doubt EA really cares.
How well did it do?
Bioware said it won't be. Despite DAI's success, MEA will follow a different formula or something like that.
Yeah, but the leak says otherwise. I'm more inclined to believe every aspect of the leak was true since it's leak of the next game being in Andromeda was correct, as well as its talk of jetpacks we see in the trailer. Khet Outposts sounds like Keeps, and the colonization stuff sounds like a ME war table. Both games also have a focus in exploration. I certainly hope Bioware didn't lie about the entire basis of the next game with that interview.
How well did it do?
EA shipped 3.5 million copies at launch and said that the game generated $200 million in sales at retail in Fiscal Year 2012.
Sell-through numbers to consumers in the US for the launch month of March 2012 were 1.3 million physical copies.
I was chatting with another forum user in a private message... We were talking about ME:A would have to make up for the mistakes in the entire series, especially ME3.
I have high hopes for ME:A -- but I feel like after seeing a few users irate, that BioWare needs to get this game right or lose the trust of their fans forever.
What do you guys think?
I think it has less to do with ME3 and more with the current state of WRPGs. With Witcher 3 progressing the genre in areas such as side quest and having an immersive open world........and Fallout 4 seemingly doing good with the mini bits such as allowing the player to create his/her experience through deep crafting/exploration options, a lot of people including myself is going to be looking to Bioware to see if they can add to the progression of the genre. Cool looking graphics and fancy cutscenes just isn't going to cut it. ME1 took the industry by surprise in 2007. What will ME:A bring to the table?
EA care only about sales figures so as long as their games continue to sell, I don't think it matters whether we're irate or not.
EA shipped 3.5 million copies at launch and said that the game generated $200 million in sales at retail.
Sell-through numbers to consumers in the US for the launch month of March 2012 were 1.3 million physical copies.
I'm sure EA would like to see those numbers for MEA
I would love to know how much money multiplayer generated for them.EA shipped 3.5 million copies at launch and said that the game generated $200 million in sales at retail in Fiscal Year 2012.
Sell-through numbers to consumers in the US for the launch month of March 2012 were 1.3 million physical copies.
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