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[N7Jamaican]

I am confident ME:A will be a good game

[LinksOcarina]

Micro Transactions are part of MP, We don't know what the gear requirements will be for the strike missions which are MP. Therein lies the potential problem.

 

Presuming microtransactions, because they are a part of the game, are bad is not really the problem.

 

The problem is implementation. Can you honestly say that BioWare has implemented them wrong yet in the previous two games. If they change that structure, well notice and complain about it for sure.

 

If we are assuming its a potential problem, were just going to assume it will be a problem until released, guilty until proven innocent, which rarely works because it colors our thinking.

[Linkenski]

I think their new IP is the game that's gonna be make or break for Bioware overall, but I think fans will keep buying their games as long as they keep making games that we're interested in, and despite DA:I being kind of meh it was still a good game to have in a year of almost no good games in the AAA scene.

 

I don't think the pressure is high for them when their Youtube video got several million views in a couple of days and an overwhelming amount of thumbs ups. (The just like to boast about that, which is why I bring it up).

 

ME:A is in good hands... kind of. (People who think Mass Effect is about how cool it is to shoot people and how good the graphics are compared to a CG render from Mass Effect 3)

[Eelectrica]

Presuming microtransactions, because they are a part of the game, are bad is not really the problem.

The problem is implementation. Can you honestly say that BioWare has implemented them wrong yet in the previous two games. If they change that structure, well notice and complain about it for sure.

If we are assuming its a potential problem, were just going to assume it will be a problem until released, guilty until proven innocent, which rarely works because it colors our thinking.

Like I said earlier more information is needed before passing final judgment.

I think it's something to be aware of though and be on the look out for as more details emerge.

[LinksOcarina]

Like I said earlier more information is needed before passing final judgment.

I think it's something to be aware of though and be on the look out for as more details emerge.

 

Fair enough. I guess i'm seeing it as a glass half full sort of situation. 

[Legion of 1337]

Since no ME game was ever flawless, or even close to flawless, I'm not betting on this being a return to greatness or anything.

[Andrew Lucas]

Bioware delivered three fantastic Mass Effect games, the only ones adding pressure are the good ol' haters who will always be present no matter what. They don't need to prove a thing to us, their games are top nodge, if anything, they only need to finish the game, look at the mirror, and say : "We still can create epic stories.", game after game.

DA2 suffered from the classic EA treatment, which seems to be far, far away by now.

[Legion of 1337]

their games are top nodge, if anything, they only need to finish the game, look at the mirror, and say : "We still can create epic stories.", game after game.

Please tell me you're not serious.

[Iakus]

DA2 suffered from the classic EA treatment, which seems to be far, far away by now.

FUnny, since I saw ME3 as having all of DA2's flaws, greatly magnified.

[shodiswe]

Since no ME game was ever flawless, or even close to flawless, I'm not betting on this being a return to greatness or anything.

There has been a flawless game?

[LinksOcarina]

FUnny, since I saw ME3 as having all of DA2's flaws, greatly magnified.

 

That is a bit of a stretch.

 

And honestly, Dragon Age II is still a good game for a flawed game...which says a lot because lesser games would buckle under the issues it had. 

[Iakus]

That is a bit of a stretch.

 

And honestly, Dragon Age II is still a good game for a flawed game...which says a lot because lesser games would buckle under the issues it had. 

Sure DA2 is a decent game.  It didn't wreck the franchise for me.

 

But railroaded "bittersweet" ending where it  all felt the same?  Yep. 

Forced drama and "feelz"?:  Big time

Limited player reactions?  Yeah, ME3 had even less.  DA2 at least had three choices and less autodialogue.

I could go on and on.

[dreamgazer]

But railroaded "bittersweet" ending where it  all felt the same?  Yep.

Council-Human decision? Railroaded, bittersweet, color swaps at the end.
 

Forced drama and "feelz"?:  Big time

Eden Prime, Virmire, having your ship grounded ... plenty of "feelz" to go around.
 

Limited player reactions?  Yeah, ME3 had even less.  DA2 at least had three choices and less autodialogue.

And ME1 had oodles of conversation choices that all led to the exact same line of dialogue. Eh.
 

I could go on and on.

We know.

[Chealec]

You mean the lackluster copypasta of Magic: The Gathering?

 

I thought it was a pretty good take on an MTG-esque game, especially for an essentially pointless side-game; more fun than dice-poker anyway

 

For the "revolutionised" stuff ... I guess it could be argued that there hasn't really been anything truly revolutionary in gaming since someone put boobs on Prince of Persia and made it 3D (Tomb Raider on the PS1 obviously). Oculus Rift or Steam VR might shake things up for a while maybe.

 

The only pressure I can see BioWare really being under at the moment is the fact that DA:I got slightly mauled by the users' reviews on Metacritic (5.8)... and I suspect EA is one of those companies that actually puts far more stock than is warranted into those reviews.

[SolNebula]

I think they should outright ignore this madhouse of entitled whiners (me included) that the BSN is. Focus on the project they have, follow their instinct and take extra-care with the small details (those make the difference for a GOTY). You won't make everyone happy. You lose some you gain some.

[NeonFlux117]

DICE and specifically the Battlefield series are under way more pressure than BioWare and Mass Effect. If Star Wars BF flops and performs under expectations, you can count on seeing DICE Stockholm going the way of the Dinosaur. And Battlefield is in SERIOUS trouble. Obviously the horrific launch of BF4 and the months of ineptitude by DICE that followed. But also Battlefield HL has performed well under expectations and his the least played BF title by PC players in the history of the series. That game is dead. So.... I think BioWare can rest assured. After all, SWOTOR has seen an increase in player base and DA3 did very well both commercially and critically. So BW is a pretty safe EA property.

[CrutchCricket]

Meh.

 

Mass Effect isn't the only thing that defines BioWare. And fans will always find something to be angry about.  And they will still buy the game anyways.  And the next one 

Hence why mistakes can continue to repeat themselves.

[DarthLaxian]

I was chatting with another forum user in a private message...  We were talking about ME:A would have to make up for the mistakes in the entire series, especially ME3.

 

I have high hopes for ME:A -- but I feel like after seeing a few users irate, that BioWare needs to get this game right or lose the trust of their fans forever.  

What do you guys think?

 

I agree, particularly with all those games (which offer similar experiences to Bioware games) coming out this year, like:

 

- The Witcher

- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

- Fallout 4 (which includes sandbox-gaming (a bit like Minecraft!))

- etc. (need to look up more, but those are enough anyway, as they are competition for the RPG/Action-RPG market!)

 

Bioware needs to get this right (and honestly: their last games - including DA:I - were quite lackluster (don't get me started on ME3 or DA2), at least if you look at the games they've made in the past, including ME1 and 2 and KOTOR...I think the judgements they are facing wouldn't be as harsh, if they were just any other gaming company (fact is: they are not, they are (well: were!) one of the best and what they are currently making doesn't reflect that in the slightest -.-), not one that has been with us gamers for over a decade and has always been making great games (yes: some people blame EA - and I'd say they aren't wrong as they do put pressure on Bioware to keep deadlines, even if the product would be tons better if they could work on it some more (creativity isn't a process you can start/stop at the push of a damned button after all -.-)...till EA got them and the founders left -.- still, I've not given up hope, so let's hope that they can become what they once were again and make a game that blows us away! *thumbs up*!)

 

greetings LAX

[The Night Haunter]

I agree, particularly with all those games (which offer similar experiences to Bioware games) coming out this year, like:

 

- The Witcher

- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

- Fallout 4 (which includes sandbox-gaming (a bit like Minecraft!))

- etc. (need to look up more, but those are enough anyway, as they are competition for the RPG/Action-RPG market!)

 

Bioware needs to get this right (and honestly: their last games - including DA:I - were quite lackluster (don't get me started on ME3 or DA2), at least if you look at the games they've made in the past, including ME1 and 2 and KOTOR...I think the judgements they are facing wouldn't be as harsh, if they were just any other gaming company (fact is: they are not, they are (well: were!) one of the best and what they are currently making doesn't reflect that in the slightest -.-), not one that has been with us gamers for over a decade and has always been making great games (yes: some people blame EA - and I'd say they aren't wrong as they do put pressure on Bioware to keep deadlines, even if the product would be tons better if they could work on it some more (creativity isn't a process you can start/stop at the push of a damned button after all -.-)...till EA got them and the founders left -.- still, I've not given up hope, so let's hope that they can become what they once were again and make a game that blows us away! *thumbs up*!)

 

greetings LAX

 

Of those games listed only Fallout is really going to actually compete with MEA.

 

Witcher will not only have been out for 1.5+ years by then, but it only bears a passing similarity to DA, it bears no similarity at all to ME.

Fallout will have been out for a year and its premise is very different, it is essentially ES in a post apocalyptic setting, it is as similar to ME as Skyrim is to DA, which is not very much.

 

The games that might actually be competing are CDPR's CyberPunk game (although it has no release date, nor much info yet, very similar to MEA).

 

 

Also, as has been pointed out elsewhere Bioware is doing great. DAI sales were good, SWTOR is actually making money and the Fallen Knights xpac actually looks to be moving the game in a good direction (large focus on episodic story telling). Bioware isn't in trouble and there most recent games have been steps up. DAI was much better than DA2, ME3 was much better than ME2 (bar the ending, which is kinda almost fixed now). Hopefully they will continue this upward trend until they finally reach the point they were at a decade ago with DAO and ME.

[Belhawk]

because of the ME3 ending, i will wait to hear what fans think of the ME:A ending before i buy the game.  I no longer have any trust in them given the ME3 ending and the nerf balancing of star wars the old republic.  But i will buy Fallout 4, even pre-order it because i trust bethesda.

[Belhawk]

they had little choice but to dump the milky way galaxy.  They refused to seriously fix the ME3 ending and left fans enraged.  BW lost a lot of fans which spilled over to star wars the old republic and it had to go to f2p as a result.  No matter what they do MWG, there will be unhappy fans, but less so in a brand new setting.

[xAmilli0n]

I am confident ME:A will be a good game

 

And it most likely will be.  We'll have to wait a while to find out for sure though.

 

I think they should outright ignore this madhouse of entitled whiners (me included) that the BSN is. Focus on the project they have, follow their instinct and take extra-care with the small details (those make the difference for a GOTY). You won't make everyone happy. You lose some you gain some.

 

Some sound advice.

 

because of the ME3 ending, i will wait to hear what fans think of the ME:A ending before i buy the game.  I no longer have any trust in them given the ME3 ending and the nerf balancing of star wars the old republic.  But i will buy Fallout 4, even pre-order it because i trust bethesda.

 

Pre-order cancled! Oh wait its too early for that.

[Belhawk]

u can pre-order fallout 4, pipboy edition is out of stock in game stores, and is only available at the bethesda store.  I will get the regular edition so i can DL it and start asap.  But for ME:A, i will wait until after it comes out so i can find out what sort of ending it will have. 

[The Night Haunter]

u can pre-order fallout 4, pipboy edition is out of stock in game stores, and is only available at the bethesda store.  I will get the regular edition so i can DL it and start asap.  But for ME:A, i will wait until after it comes out so i can find out what sort of ending it will have. 

A perfectly reasonable attitude even towards games you think you'll like. Nothing wrong with reading reviews (consumer or professional).