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[Merela]

 

Source: http://thatenglishon...st/124331088334

[Master Warder Z_]

Well that was certainly a entertaining conversation if nothing else

[Andres Hendrix]

I don't have HBO...

 

I'd watch it if I did though. HBO's Rome series was awesome. Is that a documentary or a drama?

 

That isn't why I said Athens though. I had poetry, plays, philosophy in mind. I know there wasn't ever truly a Greece.. that's why I mentioned Philip's league. It's probably the first real attempt at something like it, and Sparta was left out of it. And even though Hellenism didn't officially become a thing until after Alexander's death, it was a theme that had it's beginnings in his father and himself. And those who influenced Alexander as well (Aristotle).

 

I appreciate your knowledge on the subject. I'm willing to learn something new. Just don't bundle me as just a TV viewer. I might be slightly one level above.

 

Why did this get you out of lurk mode anyways? Do you study this a lot?

What I was saying, is that proclaiming Hellenism as wholly Athenian is a fallacy. I should also add that Greek culture in the wider world during the Hellenic period was also funneled through the idiosyncrasies of Macedon. Also, Aristotle was a Macedonian who studied in Athens; he was born in Stagira (central Macedon). It is wrong to think that Philosophy only came out of Athens, during the Hellenic period it was more so coming out of Rome and Egypt, ancient skepticism is believed to have started in India and is said to have been brought to the Hellenic world by Pyrrho. Philosophy during the Hellenic period was rather diverse; Athens was only one of its main hubs. In fact it was never central, and Socrates Plato and Aristotle did not take providence in philosophy until Medieval Christianity because their teachings were easily skewed to suit the early church. The majority of Hellenic philosophy has been lost, we don't even have that much of Aristotle's philosophy, we have like three books and some of his lecture notes.

[MisterJB]

 

If they removed Cass from the party and had her content be focused on her role as the Divine, I don't think I would mind.

It's the qunari, afterall. She should be leading the Chantry in meeting this threat, not just killing whatever the Inquisitor points her towards.

[Master Warder Z_]

That divine election is so stupid

[Cespar]

If they removed Cass from the party and had her content be focused on her role as the Divine, I don't think I would mind.
It's the qunari, afterall. She should be leading the Chantry in meeting this threat, not just killing whatever the Inquisitor points her towards.

Cassandra doesn't lead because she doesn't want to. She has plenty of opportunities to take charge, but would rather be on the field fighting alongside the soldiers, which she could still be a leader by doing that. The inquisitor doesn't point her towards anything. They just share common foes.

[Master Warder Z_]

*snorts* even I'm not that deluded

[Boost32]

 

 

If they removed Cass from the party and had her content be focused on her role as the Divine, I don't think I would mind.

It's the qunari, afterall. She should be leading the Chantry in meeting this threat, not just killing whatever the Inquisitor points her towards.

 

My Divine is Vivienne, so I would mind if Cass left the party to be the new Divine

[Cespar]

My Divine is Vivienne, so I would mind if Cass left the party to be the new Divine

I'm glad that there are some people that likes Vivienne as the Divine. She is making history by becoming the first mage Divine in the Southern Thedas. Plus, she's pro-circle, which is a good thing. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Its not a good example; mages shouldn't wield political power no more then Templars should ideally.

So no.

[MisterJB]

Cassandra doesn't lead because she doesn't want to. She has plenty of opportunities to take charge, but would rather be on the field fighting alongside the soldiers, which she could still be a leader by doing that. The inquisitor doesn't point her towards anything. They just share common foes.

But, if she becomes Divine, then she will have to become a leader, no way around that.

Ideally, we would see that happening already in this DLC. I do hope we will see something of Divine Victoria before we leave DAI behind.

 

[The Baconer]

So no.

 

The classic.

[Cespar]

Its not a good example; mages shouldn't wield political power no more then Templars should ideally.

So no.

I agree. They shouldn't give someone who is pro-mage or pro-templars political power. They would only use the power to strength their order, instead of the people. 

 

Vivienne treats the mages and the templars the same. She knows that there are bad mages and templars, and would see those people crushed before they could start something. 

[Cespar]

But, if she becomes Divine, then she will have to become a leader, no way around that.

Ideally, we would see that happening already in this DLC. I do hope we will see something of Divine Victoria before we leave DAI behind.

True, even though she seems to have regretted the choice by the end of Inquisition. 

 

If I remember correctly, I believe that one of the Devs tweeted that we'll have new content for the followers. 

[Master Warder Z_]

The classic.

Like your pro Tevinter garbage isn't predictable?

[Master Warder Z_]

Vivienne treats the mages and the templars the same

Which is no better then that moron Leliana so it won't happen; Mages aren't normal.

To acknowledge the fallacy they is to acknowledge the flawed logic that led to **** like Rivain or Tevinter.

[Boost32]

Its not a good example; mages shouldn't wield political power no more then Templars should ideally.
So no.

She is not a politic, she is the leader of the largest religious group in my game.
So yes

[Lulupab]

I'm not going to write a volume on this warder. You don't even acknowledge the people who don't share your opinions directly anymore. I'm "the Dutch" now apparently.

 

Also anyone who likes Orlais but thinks Tevinter is a "****" needs to punch himself, maybe he will wake up. 

[The Baconer]

Like your pro Tevinter garbage isn't predictable?

 

What are you even talking about.

[Master Warder Z_]

What are you even talking about.

That post was self explanatory.

[Master Warder Z_]

She is not a politic, she is the leader of the largest religious group in my game.
So yes

Your game; not mine, when I had it anyway.

I cannot condone the act though; its a precedence that should never be set, its a relatively dangerous notion and leans to much into the whole "magic serves man by ruling him" dogma for it to ever have my support.

[The Baconer]

That post was self explanatory.

 

It was a poke at one of your posting mannerisms, "so no". It even predates the *snort*.

[Master Warder Z_]

It was a poke at one of your posting mannerisms, "so no". It even predates the *snort*.

If you say so.

[The Baconer]

If you say so.

 

That was like, the entire point of only quoting that phrase.

[Master Warder Z_]

That was like, the entire point of only quoting that phrase.

I have several dismissal techniques; some more respectful then others, the situation calls for what it calls.

For those whom are truly without merit of conversation are merely put on "ignore" and that it ends, if they propose a ridiculous idea in a rude or ridiculous fashion, they aren't granted a counter argument, it just goes from there.

Its a simple escalation of response.