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lol.. So is the mod monitoring this thread or did someone actually report me for "profanity"?
 
You know how pointless that is, right?


Guess the mods love dwarves

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Guess the mods love dwarves

 

It has nothing to do with dwarves. It was profanity specifically.

 

And I guess it was you. I'm not surprised. You obviously have no life.



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It has nothing to do with dwarves. It was profanity specifically.
 
And I guess it was you. I'm not surprised. You obviously have no life.


Accusing me? Guess you forgot your rant int the dwarf thread and think nobody else dislikes your views


And considering you're the person who went on a rant calling people who play qunari as losers who masurbate to beastiality simply because I said the word horny, I'd say you are in no position to insult anyone

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Accusing me? Guess you forgot your rant int the dwarf thread and think nobody else dislikes your views


And considering you're the person who went on a rant calling people who play qunari as losers who masurbate to beastiality simply because I said the word horny, I'd say you are in no position to insult anyone

 

It doesn't matter if people don't like my views. Disagreement is common. I got reported for profanity specifically. And yes, I'm accusing you. You have the sentiments of a 4 year old tattle-tale. It is known. "O dark one". 

 

As for the second statement, I don't follow. That puts me in the perfect position to insult people. But I never reported you. Why would I?


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Of course she does. You and I both know that women aren't people who are capable of doing more than 1 thing at a time. Women can only think in binary terms, because they have very simple brains. Ergo, if she's married, she can never ever be a warrior. If she's a warrior, she can never ever be married.

Even though this is very obviously a joke which should be apparent to anyone with a working brain, I'm prepared for the incoming feminist hate mob in 3, 2, 1....


This is why game mods exist! So women are more capable of doing such things. :P
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Why would you call it restricting? It's a personal choice and I find nothing restricting about it. I was just saying, she doesn't have to give up what she's passionate about to fulfil the role in a more traditional sense.

She could quite easily cook his meals and darn his socks at a campfire as she would in a house.

It's not like the inquisitor has a manor that needs running. There would be no need for her to stay at Skyhold.

You are missing the point; I don't agree that Cassandra would adhere to your conception of marriage. I think she would have a more conservative idea of what a wife is supposed to be, and that is where her insecurities would come from. I think this because she treats other things with a traditional outlook, politics, the chantry etc. If she views the Chantry in a conservative way, then most likely she has its traditional view of marriage and marriage roles. I think that it would suit her character to feel like her obligations as a warrior (if she herself has that conservative notion of wife) would make her a lousy wife. I'm saying that she would have psychological issues with it. To be clear, I'm not defending such marriage 'morally' superior or anything like that, I'm examining Cassandra as a character; moreover, I'm not saying that her conceptions cannot be changed. I hope that clarifies it.



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What does the Chantry say then? I never ran across anything about it.

 

They have a strong bias in favor of women. That's all I know.

You can read about it on the wiki.



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You are missing the point; I don't agree that Cassandra would adhere to your conception of marriage. I think she would have a more conservative idea of what a wife is supposed to be, and that is where her insecurities would come from. I think this because she treats other things with a traditional outlook, politics, the chantry etc. If she views the Chantry in a conservative way, then most likely she has its traditional view of marriage and marriage roles. I think that it would suit her character to feel like her obligations as a warrior (if she herself has that conservative notion of wife) would make her a lousy wife. I'm saying that she would have psychological issues with it. To be clear, I'm not defending such marriage 'morally' superior or anything like that, I'm examining Cassandra as a character; moreover, I'm not saying that her conceptions cannot be changed. I hope that clarifies it.

 

I think you're bringing in a lot of your own baggage with traditionalism here. You're free to do that though.. since there isn't much said, either way in the game.


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It doesn't matter if people don't like my views. Disagreement is common. I got reported for profanity specifically. And yes, I'm accusing you. You have the sentiments of a 4 year old tattle-tale. It is known. "O dark one". 
 
As for the second statement, I don't follow. That puts me in the perfect position to insult people. But I never reported you. Why would I?


There's a difference between not liking something and calling anyone who likes dwarves as "sick fucks" and acting as though them being executed is a good thing.

You don't see me calling Sera loves "idiotic motherfuckers
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I think you're bringing in a lot of your own baggage with traditionalism here. You're free to do that though.. since there isn't much said, either way in the game.


I think we all do regarding most topics.

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I think we all do regarding most topics.

 

True enough. That's why I'll leave it open for him.



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I think you're bringing in a lot of your own baggage with traditionalism here.

Explain yourself.



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Explain yourself.

 

This subject of traditional and religious obligation always got you talking in the past. Most of which I agree with myself. And I noticed the other day that your Inquisitor's backstory is founded on this. You have a lot of "material" to work with, for some reason. That's all I'm saying.

 

Not judging it. :P



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Still not sure where we can find the notion that traditional marriage roles in Andrastianism means a restrictive life for the wife and I have both volumes of "The World of Thedas."

 

Really, the only problem I could see would perhaps be in regard with children due to yes, that fundamentally changing their routine and her biological clock.



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Still not sure where we can find the notion that traditional marriage roles in Andrastianism means a restrictive life for the wife and I have both volumes of "The World of Thedas."

Really, the only problem I could see would perhaps be in regard with children due to yes, that fundamentally changing their routine and her biological clock.


Well, it would just be irresponsible to have both parents putting themselves in life threatening situations if there are kids in the picture.
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This subject of traditional and religious obligation always got you talking in the past. Most of which I agree with myself. And I noticed the other day that your Inquisitor's backstory is founded on this. You have a lot of "material" to work with, for some reason. That's all I'm saying.

 

Not judging it. :P

The logic is simple, the chantry (which prevails throughout Southern Thedian culture) has an outlook that can be considered conservative in nature, Cassandra faithfully adheres to the chantry therefore she has its conservative values. Going by experience, I would assume that Cassandra understands these roles and values, she once said that if her life in Nevarra had have been different  her Uncle might have had her married off to some noble, and she might have had three children, and would have ended up sitting around at home all day. I would call that traditional/conservative.  
 



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Still not sure where we can find the notion that traditional marriage roles in Andrastianism means a restrictive life for the wife and I have both volumes of "The World of Thedas."

 

Really, the only problem I could see would perhaps be in regard with children due to yes, that fundamentally changing their routine and her biological clock.

 

Try, in the game itself.



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Plus we even have the last name "Elfman". I wonder where did that came from lmao. 

 

via genealogy.familyeducation.com-- 
 

 

Last name origins & meanings:
 
German (Elfmann): habitational name for someone from a place called Elvede or Elbe.
German (Elfmann): from a short form of a Germanic personal name composed of the elements alf ‘ghost’ + man ‘man’.
 
Searching "Elvede" on Google doesn't bring up any results, but the Elbe is a river in Europe that flows through the Czech Republic and Germany. So I would guess "Elfman" delineates family heritage that stems from the area around this river.
 
And yes, I'm aware that you were trying to be clever by insinuating that "elfman" is somehow tied to elves. Except, since the name is German, it can't have anything to do with elves. The German word for elf is just "Elf" (which makes sense considering that "elf" --in English-- is a largely German word to begin with) and originally meant something more along the lines of "ghost" (aka "Geist" in modern German). "Elbe", to my knowledge, doesn't actually mean anything and is just a name, although it could be derived from "Elve", the Middle Low German word for "river" or "riverbed".
 
.... 2 years of German in high school (taught to me by an actual German woman from Bavaria) and I actually liked the class to pay attention and retain what was said, as opposed to all the other students who just took Spanish for the grad credits. Also some studying on the side because I have a lot of free time.


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Try, in the game itself.

 

Where?

 

Is this only about how marriages are supposed to produce offspring?

First, that is a cultural phenomenon unrelated to Andrastian beliefs and then, not only is that expected even from Empress Celene, Moira Theirin had Maric but was still the one who lead the rebellion in Ferelden.
 



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Well, it would just be irresponsible to have both parents putting themselves in life threatening situations in there are kids in the picture.

Thats common in fiction.
Just see Batman, Thalia and Damian.

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Thats common in fiction.
Just see Batman, Thalia and Damian.

 

Catwoman is so much better for Bats though. 

 

It would be for me, if I was Batman at least.  -_-


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