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[Master Warder Z_]

You do realise that it isn't your play through and she can like whoever she wants as divine, right?

Probably not

[Lulupab]

Retarded like her mentor.

 

That's too bad, since you know. Justinia is now a world hero now and a martyr. I think you missed half the game.

[Lulupab]

Meh, cray cray is still cray cray.

 

 

And they get away with it,more than they ever did: because of flimsy idealistic garbage.

 

Necessary cray cray. You can't nod and smile to fight zealots and nuts. 

 

Its doesn't have anything to do with idealism. Too much pride, specially national pride is the cause of majority of human conflicts. "We are proud, we are better than you, WAR". Something like this.

[Lulupab]

Retarded like her mentor.

 

Oh and I DARE you to call Justinia retarded in front of Cassandra.

[AWTEW]

Necessary cray cray. You can't nod and smile to fight zealots and nuts. 

 

Its doesn't have anything to do with idealism. Too much pride, specially national pride is the cause of majority of human conflicts. "We are proud, we are better than you, WAR". Something like this.

 

Nationalisim will always exist, because it is in human nature. And, nationalism is not always about pride, or being better than something. It can also be about defending their country, homes, and family. Some cultures will never co-exist, and trying to force them too causes more war bloodshed and hatred. 

[Merela]

 

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[Master Warder Z_]

...Eyebrows

[Lulupab]

Nationalisim will always exist, because it is in human nature. And, nationalism is not always about pride, or being better than something. It can also be about defending their country, homes, and family. Some cultures will never co-exist, and trying to force them too causes more war bloodshed and hatred. 

 

Define "co-exist". If you mean sharing a country, then maybe. But 5+1 proved that diplomacy can solve something that a 12 years hostility and sanctions towards Iran couldn't and Iran's culture opposes west culture by definition. We can't force it, but we can avoid conflict.

 

Nationalism will exist, but it can be controlled. There are so many cultures, languages and different people cramped up in little space known as Europe. It lead to WWs. EU was created to dampen this sense of "being better than you" by causing countries to have same liberal ideas, same laws, even same currency. They also do not need any sort of visa or approval to travel to each other's countries and can freely work and stay as they wish. Now pretty much all Europeans, while having national pride, also take pride in EU itself and being part of it. Again violence and hostility does not solve anything, at least not without creating more. 

 

So yes, all cultures can co-exist. This however does not include extremists. I'd be happy to dagger them as anyone would be.

[Merela]

 

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[AWTEW]

Define "co-exist". If you mean sharing a country, then maybe. But 5+1 proved that diplomacy can solve something that a 12 years hostility and sanctions towards Iran couldn't and Iran's culture opposes west culture by definition. We can't force it, but we can avoid conflict.

 

Nationalism will exist, but it can be controlled. There are so many cultures, languages and different people cramped up in little space known as Europe. It lead to WWs. EU was created to dampen this sense of "being better than you" by causing countries to have same liberal ideas, same laws, even same currency. They also do not need any sort of visa or approval to travel to each other's countries and can freely work and stay as they wish. Now pretty much all Europeans, while having national pride, also take pride in EU itself and being part of it. Again violence and hostility does not solve anything, at least not without creating more. 

 

So yes, all cultures can co-exist. This however does not include extremists. I'd be happy to dagger them as anyone would be.

 

Sharing a country was what I meant. Sure diplomacy can solve things, but you can bet plenty of back room deals, and bribes accompanied it. As for Extremisim, that is just a smokescreen word, used to  hide the true problem.

 

But, this is not the place to debate this.. so back to Cassandra

 

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What the hell is wrong with her lips?

[Boost32]

That's too bad, since you know. Justinia is now a world hero now and a martyr. I think you missed half the game.

She still a retarded.
The only good thing she did was to die, so a competent person could take the lead of the Chantry.

Oh and I DARE you to call Justinia retarded in front of Cassandra.

Cass is s fictional character, so thats impossible.

[Lulupab]

She still a retarded.
The only good thing she did was to die, so a competent person could take the lead of the Chantry.

Cass is s fictional character, so thats impossible.

Well its easy to anticipate her reaction.

Cassandra greatly disapproves.
Romance ended.
Inquisitor punched unconscious by Cassandra.

She believed in Justinia, her death broke her as much as it did Leliana. But she didn't let the feeling surface, its just who she is.

I know you secretly wanted her to hate mages but its obviously not the case as its apparent from her conversations and what she does to mages when she is Divine. Even before that, she saw mages doing most of the work but she got all the credit for it. Cassandra is a lot like Leliana, more than you like to admit. She is just more "warrior like", both physically and mentally. In a sense that she approaches everything directly and boldly, but her approach in general is the same.

[Boost32]

Well its easy to anticipate her reaction.Cassandra greatly disapproves.Romance ended.Inquisitor punched unconscious by Cassandra.She believed in Justinia, her death broke her as much as it did Leliana. But she didn't let the feeling surface, its just who she is.I know you secretly wanted her to hate mages but its obviously not the case as its apparent from her conversations and what she does to mages when she is Divine. Even before that, she saw mages doing most of the work but she got all the credit for it. Cassandra is a lot like Leliana, more than you like to admit. She is just more "warrior like", both physically and mentally. In a sense that she approaches everything directly and boldly, but her approach in general is the same.

If she broke up with my Inquisitor because of that, then good, I would not stay with a woman who wants to beat her own partner.

I dont hate the mages, why I would want for her to hate them?
Thankfully she is nothing like Leliana, if she was retarded like the red head with mental illness I would never have romanced her.

[Lulupab]

Leliana remains unbothered. Her enemies will either kneel or get the dagger while she is adored in eyes of the public as she is the most popular in eyes of the common people because she cares for them the most.

Also she does not need Inquisition to not fail utterly. If Cassandra or Vivienne have bad relationship with Inquisitor when they become divine, they rule will utterly fail because they need the Inquisition. Leliana doesn't. Justinia has trained her well, she can outplay everyone. Cassandra can become right hand of Leliana though, its not specifically mentioned, but its rather obvious though you need her to rebuild the Seekers for it to happen.
 

[Boost32]

Leliana remains unbothered. Her enemies will either kneel or get the dagger while she is adored in eyes of the public as she is the most popular in eyes of the common people because she cares for them the most.
Also she does not need Inquisition to not fail utterly. If Cassandra or Vivienne have bad relationship with Inquisitor when they become divine, they rule will utterly fail because they need the Inquisition. Leliana doesn't. Justinia has trained her well, she can outplay everyone. Cassandra can become right hand of Leliana though, its not specifically mentioned, but its rather obvious though you need her to rebuild the Seekers for it to happen.

Ofc Leliana need the Inquisition, if you dont help her she fails mind she uses the Inquisition spy/assassins.
And like I care for what people would think of her as Divine, the retarded will never reach the Sunburst Throne in my playthroughs.

[Lulupab]

You may think she is retarded, but she plays the game better, have more resources and knows the chantry better than anyone. You are focusing on your own personal opinion of her, but she knows exactly what to do since her goals are much harder than the other two candidates, but she achieves the flawlessly meanwhile keeping her reputation, increasing chantry's influence and getting the public's adoration. 

 

And no Leliana only extends her support for Inquisition after stabilizing the chantry and doing everything by herself. She merely says she supports the Inquisition's efforts. But the thing is she does that after everything is said and done, unlike the other two who use the Inquisition to move forward. Remember that the "Inquisition spies" were her spies before anything else. They are her agents in different banners.

[Boost32]

You may think she is retarded, but she plays the game better, have more resources and knows the chantry better than anyone. You are focusing on your own personal opinion of her, but she knows exactly what to do since her goals are much harder than the other two candidates, but she achieves the flawlessly meanwhile keeping her reputation, increasing chantry's influence and getting the public's adoration. 
 
And no Leliana only extends her support for Inquisition after stabilizing the chantry and doing everything by herself. She merely says she supports the Inquisition's efforts. But the thing is she does that after everything is said and done, unlike the other two who use the Inquisition to move forward. Remember that the "Inquisition spies" were her spies before anything else. They are her agents in different banners.

She is retarded, its a fact.
Please remember me her exploits at the Game, besides being betrayed and almost killed by Majorlaine.

She needs the Inquisitor to help her being less retarded, if not she fails. So what if they were Leliana's spies before? They all joined the Inquisition, so yes she needs the Inquisition help anyway.

And why you want to discuss the mentally disabled person here? Dont you have a topic for her? Stop polluting Cass' topic.

[Lulupab]

Ugh, "pollute". majority of this thread is not about Cass anyhow, at least Cassandra comes up a lot when we talk about Leliana or other characters.

 

LMFAO at you stating its "fact". Show me receipts other than your utter and complete bias.

 

Yes she is human, she needs help now and than, its only natural and makes her character more real. Perfect characters are boring. She learns from her failures. She learns a lot from her interaction from Majorlaine, it makes her a better and stronger person.

 

But go on and nitpick more. I mean did you ever had a better argument than "she is retarded"? Not really. 

[Boost32]

I dont need to show you the facts, thats not the retarded thread.
"Better" person? Not in a thousands of years, retarded still retarded.

And now you admit she needs the Inquisition too? At least its a improvement.

[Master Warder Z_]

Of course it kept going

[Merela]

Ugh, "pollute". majority of this thread is not about Cass anyhow, at least Cassandra comes up a lot when we talk about Leliana or other characters.

 

 

Yes, I really wonder why... It's noy like there are pages of you and Boost arguing about Leliana. Now would you kindly take that discussion either to PM or to the Leliana topic? It's growing to be frankly annoying.

 

 

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[Boost32]

No PM please.

[Merela]

 

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