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[Master Warder Z_]

I'll wait until the next obsidian Fallout

[o Ventus]

I can play them... they're good shooters. I'm not a hater like some. I don't think I can get excited about them though.

 

There isn't much on the horizon for me except Fallout, I guess.

 

I don't really hate the games either, but I do loathe the people who play them. The stereotype of the whiny 12-year old little c**t CoD player exists for a reason. That, and every other person I seem to know who admits to liking Call of Duty is a dudebro macho meathead piece of human garbage.

[His Name was HYR!!]

I'm worried that with Weekes in charge, things like the Seers will just be promoted more. Spirit and Mortal coexistence. 

 

I don't know... I don't even have any real ground for believing that, but I get the feeling he doesn't care to write mundane subjects. Things will just get stranger. And it'll end up as a very extreme fantasy setting, instead of the Game of Thrones knock off it sort of was at times, in DAO.

 

I'm pretty worried, too.

 

Weekes flatly admitted to retconning the nature of the genophage so that people would not hate Mordin (his character) so much for updating it.

 

I'm worried because of SolASS (again, his character). He makes some claims related to the Fade and Spirits that -- from my experience -- are BS, which either mean that he is just talking out of his rear (as I sincerely hope to be the case) -or- that there may be some retcons on the way (cue in the disgusted noise).

[MisterJB]

I'm pretty worried, too.

 

Weekes flatly admitted to retconning the nature of the genophage so that people would not hate Mordin (his character) so much for updating it.

 

Which retcons?

 

The Genophage and krogan fertility was always something the writers never seemed sure of.

In one game, it leads to stillborns, in another it adjusts the numbers of births.

The krogan females can lay a thousand eggs in a year but then we see a nuclear family in the epilogue with Wrex even planning to name a kid "Mordin".
 

[Master Warder Z_]

I made him a steak!

[thesuperdarkone2]

I'm worried that with Weekes in charge, things like the Seers will just be promoted more. Spirit and Mortal coexistence.

I don't know... I don't even have any real ground for believing that, but I get the feeling he doesn't care to write mundane subjects. Things will just get stranger. And it'll end up as a very extreme fantasy setting, instead of the Game of Thrones knock off it sort of was at times, in DAO.

Considering Gaider was the one who didn't want a golden third way like the geth/quarian peace and the one who wanted more Templar support, I'd say there will be more pro-Mage elements in he future.

That's assuming the Mage issue is addressed in later games considering the devs said this game is the last one where the Mage/Templar issue will have any relevance

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Ugh, what a horrible idea.

Perfect way to alienate a chunk of your fan base.

[Master Warder Z_]

Ugh, what a horrible idea.

Perfect way to alienate a chunk of your fan base.

Mhm

Me and you are both squarely in the pro Templar faction

[His Name was HYR!!]

Which retcons?

 

The Genophage and krogan fertility was always something the writers never seemed sure of.

In one game, it leads to stillborns, in another it adjusts the numbers of births.

The krogan females can lay a thousand eggs in a year but then we see a nuclear family in the epilogue with Wrex even planning to name a kid "Mordin".
 

 

Lemme see if I can find it. Heading home from work though...

[AWTEW]

 

 

Do you believe Cassandra was doubting the existence of the Maker during the events of the game, hence why she latches on the idea of the Herald of Andrast so firmly?
The Nightmare hints at that.

 

 

Eh, she really doubts the maker if the Hero did the US.

[Boost32]

Eh, she really doubts the maker if the Hero did the US.

Isnt that Leliana?

[AWTEW]

I don't really hate the games either, but I do loathe the people who play them. The stereotype of the whiny 12-year old little c**t CoD player exists for a reason. That, and every other person I seem to know who admits to liking Call of Duty is a dudebro macho meathead piece of human garbage.

 

Yes, I have to agree with you. 

 

Out of all the games, C.O.D has the most accurate stereo-type.

Isnt that Leliana?

 

Uhh yes, my bad I miss read.

[Boost32]

In addition to that, I wouldn't associate anything Cerberus with Cassandra. They're ****** idiots. "Human supemacists" whose main accomplishment is mostly screwing over humans themselves. Good job. Every husked filled colony in ME1, every soldier attacked by a Thresher Maw, every biotic child gone missing, every mook in ME3, every desperate person fleeing to Sanctuary.
 
The one good thing about Miranda is she finally realizes it.

Well they helped to make the SR1, did a better ship alone, ressurected Shepard, get crucial information on the Shadow Broker, the only confirmed case of clonation, got a hold on Omega, etc...

If there is one thing I like about Cerberus is that they have exceptional people among its rank, I found Petrovysk and Brooks so competent and interesting that I cant kill them.
I bet Brooks would make a hell os a Specter.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Leliana never questions whether the maker exists, she just questions whether he is a jerkass god or not

[Merela]

 

Source: http://endrae.tumblr...uff-and-drew-my

[Sifr]

Leliana never questions whether the maker exists, she just questions whether he is a jerkass god or not

 

Yeah, Leliana's struggle when it comes to her faith is more about how to reconcile her belief that the Maker is benevolent and loves all his creations, with how the Chant unintentionally portrays him as more as an neglectful, indifferent god who's prone to rage-quitting his creations for minor or trivial infractions, as well as how the Chantry likes to portray him as clearly favouring humans over all other races in Thedas.

 

Cassandra doesn't really have that struggle when it comes to her faith. She certainly questions the Maker at times, but she seems to be more willing to reconcile this with the belief that the Maker has an ineffable plan for everyone and there's a method to the madness, or that such struggles are meant as tests that one must overcome.

[Lulupab]

Ugh, what a horrible idea.

Perfect way to alienate a chunk of your fan base.

 

The next game is very likely in Tevinter anyway, so expect very little to zero Templar presence/story. Weekes have already prevented 3 games from having an active Templar companion, but how many mages we had? BTW Alistair does not count for this at all, for obvious reasons.

 

Gaider liked the mage side a lot himself, but he also wanted to provided gray decisions without the "cheat route" as he called it, I.E geth/quarian ceasefire. Though every now and then he gave Templar fans the stick.

 

 

As for all seers dying in the annulment, that's simply not true. Remember that out of 15 circles, it was the only one the annulment succeeded. It failed in the other 14, do we assume every single Templar was killed in those? Because "failed annulment" seems very decisive in terms of who won and who died.

[Lulupab]

I only wish for every character to have an interesting story, post ending. If Cass or Viv is Divine, I feel like Leliana is wasted somehow... she's too major of a character to just slink back as a spymaster to the end of her days. I like her as Divine or running off in a romance. Same with Cass and other Divines. I'd prefer her Divine or leading the Seekers. Vivienne probably has a lot of options, no matter what happens. I could see Cass using her a First or even Grand Enchanter. Or if Leli's divine, I could see Viv back at Court or teaching Inquisition mages.

 
This is what I feel like too. Justinia has become a hero and a martyr, and people know that Leliana was her student. Leliana is her legacy.
 
Cassandra becomes right hand of Leliana of she rebuilds the seekers.
 
If Vivienne disapproves a lot, later in the game both of you simply agree to "use each other" but admit to it with wit. Use her political stations as she uses yours. She will become the most famous mage in recent age while you get the support of loyalist mages.
 
All three are in a good position and I like it.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

The next game is very likely in Tevinter anyway, so expect very little to zero Templar presence/story.

I am pro Templar, yes. But lucky enough I don't need to play as one to not side with mages.

[Sifr]

As for all seers dying in the annulment, that's simply not true. Remember that out of 15 circles, it was the only one the annulment succeeded. It failed in the other 14, do we assume every single Templar was killed in those? Because "failed annulment" seems very decisive in terms of who won and who died.

 

Didn't the Annulment at Dairsmuid take place before the breaking of the Nevarran Accord, since it's implied it was the only time it was called for between the Kirkwall rebellion and the outbreak of the Mage-Templar war?

 

I think part of the reason that it succeeded at Dairsmuid was because it came so unexpectedly and that the Circle was far smaller than most others, which took everyone by surprise and gave them little chance to man a decent defense.

 

During Ferelden and Kirkwall incidents, we saw a few dozen mages going on the offensive was often enough to take the Templars by surprise and force them to retreat, regroup and recover before they figured out how to deal with the threat.

 

For the Circles that fell during the war, it probably happened in a similar fashion, where the mages wanting freedom rose up and took the Templar garrison by surprise and by the time they realise what had happened, they'd already staged a mass prison break.

[Lulupab]

I am pro Templar, yes. But lucky enough I don't need to play as one to not side with mages.

I didn't mean the "Templar class".

Most things will be different, I.E you might not be able to play as a noble unless you are a mage.

Weekes have said that the mage-Templar issue is over, at least temporarily. So no one is turning Tevinter into pro-templar society. Its pro-mage by default as there won't be a mage vs templar issue there.

[Boost32]

The father of Emperor Kordillius Drakon I was a non-mage noble from Tevinter.
There is nothing stopping BioWare from wiriting a non-mage noble in Tevinter.

[Lulupab]

Didn't the Annulment at Dairsmuid take place before the breaking of the Nevarran Accord, since it's implied it was the only time it was called for between the Kirkwall rebellion and the outbreak of the Mage-Templar war?
 
I think part of the reason that it succeeded at Dairsmuid was because it came so unexpectedly and that the Circle was far smaller than most others, which took everyone by surprise and gave them little chance to man a decent defense.
 
During Ferelden and Kirkwall incidents, we saw a few dozen mages going on the offensive was often enough to take the Templars by surprise and force them to retreat, regroup and recover before they figured out how to deal with the threat.
 
For the Circles that fell during the war, it probably happened in a similar fashion, where the mages wanting freedom rose up and took the Templar garrison by surprise and by the time they realise what had happened, they'd already staged a mass prison break.

Its a good theory to be honest. It can also relate to the fact that Templars always had it easy because most mages just want to live their lives and cared little for what happens. Now all of them were united and the Templar order was beyond unprepared for that scale of uprising.

[Lulupab]

The father of Emperor Kordillius Drakon I was a non-mage noble from Tevinter.
There is nothing stopping BioWare from wiriting a non-mage noble in Tevinter.

 
But he was a lesser noble, just like how the mage Terevelyan is. It will be reverse in Tevinter.