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*grumbles*


What are you over there grumbling about?

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Cassandra preferably?

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What are you over there grumbling about?


There is nothing wrong with my or Cassandra's hobbies.
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There is nothing wrong with my or Cassandra's hobbies.


*raises brow*

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*raises brow*


If there is something wrong with my hobbies then there is something wrong with some of yours.....and Cassandra's.

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This looks.... Strange.

 

But since this picture exists and it made me think of it, I would totally watch a PPV MMA-esque fight between Cassandra and another person. My first thought was Cassandra v. Ronda Rousey, but now I actually kind of think that Ronda Rousey would win that bout. Her fights never even leave the first round, and I'm pretty sure she's still undefeated.



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This looks.... Strange.

But since this picture exists and it made me think of it, I would totally watch a PPV MMA-esque fight between Cassandra and another person. My first thought was Cassandra v. Ronda Rousey, but now I actually kind of think that Ronda Rousey would win that bout. Her fights never even leave the first round, and I'm pretty sure she's still undefeated.


How about Cassandra VS. Aveline? That would be a really good fight to see. I really want to see the interaction between those two. I adored Aveline, and she was a really strong character.
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I wouldn't pit Cassandra against any real life professional.

I've never read or seen anything that has hinted at her being competent in hand-to-hand combat. She'd get her ass whipped for sure.

So I agree with a Cass vs Aveline scenario... Though I think Aveline would resort to fighting dirty. She's spent way too much time with Hawke after all. :P
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I wouldn't pit Cassandra against any real life professional.


What about semi professionals?

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I would love the option to be a pentaghast the next DA.

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What about semi professionals?


*shrugs*

I don't see it.

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I've never read or seen anything that has hinted at her being competent in hand-to-hand combat. She'd get her ass whipped for sure.

 

Grappling was a big part of historical fencing and armored combat, and I know Chevaliers actually use it as a technique for combating mages. Still, I would never put money on her over a professional, as you said.

 

fun fact: Chevaliers appear to eschew both two-handed weapons and grappling outside of special circumstances (like mages) because it is "dishonorable" or disdainful. Willful stupidity.



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*shrugs*

I don't see it.


Probably not I suppose although it depends on just how good her skills outside of blade work really are.

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fun fact: Chevaliers appear to eschew both two-handed weapons and grappling outside of special circumstances (like mages) because it is "dishonorable" or disdainful. Willful stupidity.

 

Chevaliers do embody "honour before reason" a lot of the time, but I can see the pragmaticism at work here.

 

Part of their training teaches them to anticipate attacks before they happen so they can counter, defend or outright avoid them. Using a shield makes sense, since not only is it better protection, but you can block enemy arrows... which you can't with two handers, not unless you happen to be preternaturally skilled and/or a Jedi?

 

:lol:



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Chevaliers do embody "honour before reason" a lot of the time, but I can see the pragmaticism at work here.

 

Part of their training teaches them to anticipate attacks before they happen so they can counter, defend or outright avoid them. Using a shield makes sense, since not only is it better protection, but you can block enemy arrows... which you can't with two handers, not unless you happen to be preternaturally skilled and/or a Jedi?

 

:lol:

 

I can understand the preference for shields perfectly fine, but to completely ignore entire categories of weapons, to the extent where a lack of experience in fighting people using such weapons is acknowledged as a problem, is not pragmatism, it's idiocy. Especially for a knightly order priding itself on the mastery of martial prowess.



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all black and brown and covered with hair!
The bear! The bear!


Oh come they said, oh come to the fair! The fair! Said he, but I'm a bear! All black and brown and covered with hair!
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Chevaliers do embody "honour before reason" a lot of the time, but I can see the pragmaticism at work here.

Part of their training teaches them to anticipate attacks before they happen so they can counter, defend or outright avoid them. Using a shield makes sense, since not only is it better protection, but you can block enemy arrows... which you can't with two handers, not unless you happen to be preternaturally skilled and/or a Jedi?

:lol:


Plus two handed weapons are just well... Not very useful for individual combat in 90% of situations

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Plus two handed weapons are just well... Not very useful for individual combat in 90% of situations

 

"Two handed weapons" in general, no, but that would be including the stuff that Dragon Age hyperbolizes to make the two-handed weapons in its own universe. You would think that would be generally so unwieldy as to be unideal for single combat, but apparently that isn't even the case according to the codex and Gaspard's own history.

 

In addition, the Chevaliers aren't just a school of fencers. They are trained in, and utilized for, warfare. A weapon's value for individual combat can only mean so much in that regard.



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I can understand the preference for shields perfectly fine, but to completely ignore entire categories of weapons, to the extent where a lack of experience in fighting people using such weapons is acknowledged as a problem, is not pragmatism, it's idiocy. Especially for a knightly order priding itself on the mastery of martial prowess.

 

Do they not train against people using two-handers, so they know how to deal with zwei-handers, battleaxes or mauls? If so, then yeah, that does seem entirely idiotic for them to not bother learning to how to defend against them, even if they never pick them up.



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Do they not train against people using two-handers, so they know how to deal with zwei-handers, battleaxes or mauls? If so, then yeah, that does seem entirely idiotic for them to not bother learning to how to defend against them, even if they never pick them up.

 

The codex (Bruiser) states that both training with that type of weapon, and training to fight against that type of weapon, are both generally neglected.



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"Two handed weapons" in general, no, but that would be including the stuff that Dragon Age hyperbolizes to make the two-handed weapons in its own universe.


Fair but their too unwieldy, too heavy and require specific and well coordinated movement far beyond one handed weaponry, I personally see little issue in not overly specializing in a ultimately debatably useful craft.

Besides their trained in the manner where they actually are useful, on horseback as Calvary

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Fair but their too unwieldy, too heavy and require specific and well coordinated movement far beyond one handed weaponry, I personally see little issue in not overly specializing in a ultimately debatably useful craft.

Besides their trained in the manner where they actually are useful, on horseback as Calvary

 

Neither do I see the point in them overspecializing in anything, as that wasn't what I was criticizing them for. Their general lack of experience with the weapons is acknowledged to be problematic, and this lack of experience is borne of an active disregard for their use.



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Neither do I see the point in them overspecializing in anything, as that wasn't what I was criticizing them for. Their general lack of experience with the weapons is acknowledged to be problematic, and this lack of experience is borne of an active disregard for their use.


From a undated codex on required reading for their training...This may not even be a issue by the time DA rolls around you know?

The Academy has been open a long while.

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Cass should have been Bi....

 

Bahahahahahahahahaha



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Bi..eber fan? I don't think she would like him. She might have liked "Baby" though.