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[Boost32]

Cassandra said Seekers don't have the same powers as templars, she mention being able to boil the Lyrium in a mage or templar blood and being immune to possession and mind control, so I doubt they can take the role of the templars.

[Boost32]

The Order becomes the Silver Knights
A independent organization free of the Chantry and Inquisition to protect Thedas

Its the Silver Shield, isn't it?
And you made Vivienne as Divine and told Cullen to get off the Lyrium?

[Boost32]

She still has magic nullifying powers. Even if they're not exactly the same as the Templar ones in her gameplay spec, Solas still compliments her abilities in this way. 
 
If this is what Seekers can do --- and without any longterm lyrium dependency -- then it's better.

I think its more Gameplay-Story segregation that she has the templar spec. And templars are clearly better against mages or demons, Seekers are only deployed against maleficars, since templars cant dispell blood magic (with the exception of templar Hawke, but BioWare is not consistent with lore).

[Lulupab]

A seeker cannot be possessed. It trumps ANY Templar power. The bigger threat are the demons, not the mages themselves.

[Boost32]

A seeker cannot be possessed. It trumps ANY Templar power. The bigger threat are the demons, not the mages themselves.

No, because demons rarely possess someone who isn't a mage.
They have powers that damage demons, the Seekers don't.

[Master Warder Z_]

Its the Silver Shield, isn't it?
And you made Vivienne as Divine and told Cullen to get off the Lyrium?

Bingo.

[Boost32]

Bingo.

Thought the Divine for your canon was Cassandra, and that you wouldn't allow Cullen to stop.

[Lulupab]

No, because demons rarely possess someone who isn't a mage.
They have powers that damage demons, the Seekers don't.

 

If you read the codex, abominations are a rarity as well. I know its conflicting with what we saw in DA2, but DA2 has many plotholes to begin with.

 

How many abominations did we saw in DA:I? Exactly.

 

If DA2 was the reality of it, then Thedas should have ended ages ago. Heck there is not a single mention of a abomination disaster in Tevinter, you know where magic runs rampant.

 

The true disasters happen when Templars are possessed.

[Lulupab]

Abominations occured so much in Kirkwall because of a variety of factors. The Veil was weak and it was a built on a pit of corpses.... and then add on the stress people were going through and it became a disaster.

 

That's just an excuse though. Living abominations came out of the ground all the time. The veil needs to be torn open for that to happen, "weak" doesn't cut it.

 

DA2 was a rushed game and we all know it. Its almost terrible with all the plot holes and inconsistencies.

[Boost32]

If you read the codex, abominations are a rarity as well. I know its conflicting with what we saw in DA2, but DA2 has many plotholes to begin with.
 
How many abominations did we saw in DA:I? Exactly.
 
If DA2 was the reality of it, then Thedas should have ended ages ago. Heck there is not a single mention of a abomination disaster in Tevinter, you know where magic runs rampant.
 
The true disasters happen when Templars are possessed.

And still rarer to a demon to possess a non-mage.
No disaster happens when a templar is possesed, the disaster happens when they possess a mage, because they have their own power plus the mage.

In DA:I there at least 3, one at Hinterlands, one at Chateu D'onterre and one Inquisition mage becomes one in JoH.

[Boost32]

So in your ending, your Templars just become warriors? 
 
Who's responsible for fighting magic then?

The Templar Order.
Vivienne rebuilds them.

[Lulupab]

And still rarer to a demon to possess a non-mage.
No disaster happens when a templar is possesed, the disaster happens when they possess a mage, because they have their own power plus the mage.

In DA:I there at least 3, one at Hinterlands, one at Chateu D'onterre and one Inquisition mage becomes one in JoH.

 

Think about what would have happened if Hawke didn't stop the plan to possess every Templar in Kirkwall. 

 

I know about them, and that's the realistic number of abominations. Hundreds of mages in Inquisition if you side with them, only one gets possessed.

[Boost32]

The main attraction to mages for demons is that they understand them easier. Mages are connected to the Fade, just like demons. It's a more natural transition. 
 
That's kind of what the Sloth spirit pretty much hints at in the beginning of DAO. "You are aware."
 
With others, they are only interested if they want to explore the world and see through that specific person's eyes. Like a warrior Inquisitior and the Envy demon. Or Sophia Dryden. Or they have some strong emotion that the demon hones in on. Like the Desire demon and the Templar. Or Rage and some Templars in the Fade. They can understand them easily. Possessions could happen a lot more often, if these Demons understood people better. Lots of demons that break through though are just confused and don't understand anything.... like Shades.

The templar wasnt possesed, he was mind controlled by the desire demon.
Sophie Dryden was only possesed because Avernus torn the veil.
Normal people don't get possesed like mages, the veil need to be weaken or the demon forced into them.
And normal people don't become abomination, only mages because the demon have acesso to their own power and the mage.

Think about what would have happened if Hawke didn't stop the plan to possess every Templar in Kirkwall. 
 
I know about them, and that's the realistic number of abominations. Hundreds of mages in Inquisition if you side with them, only one gets possessed.

And that happened because a mage was doing it, she was forcing demons on them.

Still more than normal people getting possessed.

[Lulupab]

I think they're wussing out in DAI, just like you say they overdid it in DA2.

 

It still doesn't take away from the fact that Mages are "prime real estate" for spirits and demons. For reasons I stated above. They understand mages easier. Mages are the closest thing in the "real world" that they would recognize from their own world.

 

I don't disagree. The point I was trying to make was demons are the real threat, not the mages. I want to have an alliance between Mages and whoever is watching over to them to protect them from demons. Not a jailed and jailer relationship.

 

I specially hate this system when Templars willingly become junkies who will have no future once they start serving. To me its an unnecessary sacrifice. A more grounded approach was never tried. The saw Tevinter and thought they should enforce harsh conditions for both mages and Templars.

 

Thankfully the system I'm looking for is available. Leliana in any condition or Cassandra (if you side with mages, either conscript or alliance) is what I'm looking for.

[Lulupab]

And that happened because a mage was doing it, she was forcing demons on them.

Still more than normal people getting possessed.

 

She wasn't exactly sane, heck she might have been possessed herself.

 

However that makes ten times their size army of junkies unnecessary don't you think? In that instance the mages themselves take care of it, no Templar needed. 

[Lulupab]

Fair enough, about the Templar and desire demon. Forgot the details. Still just as screwed though. 

 

My only point is that the reason they don't get possessed is because Demons are....... bored. They don't give a **** about regular people. Or don't understand. 

 

But they are attracted to the people who have a strong, "singular" nature. Desire/Rage/etc. That's kind of the point of the whole 7 Deadly Sins schtick.

 

Indeed. Lady Harimann for example.

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