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[Gwydden]

The only thing I find a pity (I know you didn't ask, but) is that this sort of constraint is on this game the most. The Warden and Hawke have simpler scenarios... even with the Warden slowly dying/searching for a cure now. 

 

Those characters are potentially more evil.. and yet they get more options in their personal lives. The Inquisitor is railroaded more into heroic acts (not entirely, but nowhere near as evil as the Warden), and yet they are presented with more conflicted situations on personal identity and happiness. The "good" gets punished. The evil run scott free. That's what's a pity. 

 

My 2c.

My point was that a little selfishness is good, but addressing yours...

 

I do dislike that the Inquisitor is more restricted in the moral arena than his/her predecessors. That's both part of a larger problem (e.g. DAI on the whole has a very inconsistent tone relative to the rest of the series, a much more tame one) and an unfortunate limitation of the story. Since we lead a political organization with religious roots, there is only so much we can do. Although to be fair, I find the idea of a non-human and/or mage Inquisitor only slightly less silly.

 

With regards to romance, I like the way it is handled. I don't think it's entirely new either. Alistair was very likely to dump the Warden in DAO. And frankly, the idea that good should be rewarded and evil punished is ultimately an ideal. Fewer people would be 'evil' if there wasn't a potential reward, and more people would be 'good' if there was a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow.

[Boost32]

It's cool in one light, but you just put a mage in control of the Chantry.

It could be a good idea... I really don't know. It requires a leap of faith. If it's simple to you, I wish I knew how to be that way.

The only thing I want from the Chantry is controlling the mages, Vivienne does that and because of that I'm happy, I couldnt care less about the teaching or the spiritual side of the Chantry.

And in the end, my Inquisitor is happy, Cass is happy and Vivienne is happy, so its all good for me.

And welcome back Street, you werent missed but its nice to have you back

[Boost32]

How happy is she though. The game ends, right?

I'm not saying I don't believe you. I just wonder what goes on in her head.

She is reforming the Seeker as she wanted and have her lover back, she said she couldnt be more happy in the epilogue, so all is good.

[Gwydden]

I know about what you're saying about ideals, but it's not exactly that. Speaking strictly RPG technical terms, I like choices -- and consequences. Both. The Warden lives without many consequences. Killing children, entire towns, killing Leli in gruesome dragon blood rituals..lol. And it's all very casual and ho hum at the end of the day. And yet the writers go out of their way to make them potentially happy, on a personal level. All Wardens are rewarded equally (except the dead one).

Consequences would be nice, but there's a narrative reason why the Warden can get away with those things. As a Warden during a Blight, he/she is expected and implicitly allowed to do whatever he/she deems necessary to stop it. He/she is also a lone adventurer, followed only by a small group of friends, who can remain fairly low-key throughout the game. You're unlikely to face consequences for killing Genitivi, because it is unlikely anyone would ever find out. Of course, I would personally like it if there was more reactivity to an evil Warden within the party. If you do a lot of crappy things, more people should betray you or at least abandon you.

 

The Inquisitor has significantly less freedom because, even as the Herald of Andraste, everyone's eye is on them.

[LightningPoodle]

Bah! That's enough for me I think. To tired to carry on...

I didn't lose this debate though! *points to every one of you* I didn't los- okay, I lost.

Time for sleep.

[Boost32]

Bah! That's enough for me I think. To tired to carry on...
I didn't lose this debate though! *points to every one of you* I didn't los- okay, I lost.
Time for sleep.

No, you didnt. When a writer says "whatever your headcanon wants" you still have hope .

[LightningPoodle]

No, you didnt. When a writer says "whatever your headcanon wants" you still have hope .

But I don't like headcanon...

[thesuperdarkone2]

Cassandra wants to change the Chantry yes, however she wants to make it fit the founding ideals of the Chantry. Cassandra is unfortunately a hard conservative, through and through. The Romans had a very similar mentality; by Ovid's time they ranked their age with metals, the oldest age (the legendary 8th and 7th centuries) was the golden age "the age of justice and peace" pre-navigation. So those Roman intellectuals would argue that they should strive backwards lol. After Augustus and the early Empire, the Roman intelligentsia was always looking to be like the 'golden age of Augusts, PAX ROMANA' lol. Romans were always looking back, never ahead, Cassandra is exactly the same. Unsurprisingly, a regressive cultural and technological attitude did not work out for Rome in the end. The last golden age of Rome ended as soon as the crisis of the third century began, Cassandra (I would  predict) will have similar problems.

Don't forget how Cass is already miserable and she hasn't even been crowned Divine! She has also showed she is unsure of how she should do things. Her bipolar reactions to what you do to the Templars is evidence of this. Lastly, she only thinks of using brute force and no diplomacy at all. Her Divine keep tile doesn't exactly give me much hope for her rule alone.

 

The only way she'll succeed is through going the Vivienne way of crushing her enemies through brute force or essentially become the Inquisition's puppet as she is useless in diplomacy.

[Boost32]

But I don't like headcanon...

Neither do I.
I Would have liked to know who are the parents of my Inquisitor, his sibling, how he was sent to the Conclave, etc, but the new MO of BW is "whatever your headcanon wants".

[Boost32]

What does the epilogue say.

I meant her conversation with you in the banquet.

[LightningPoodle]

Neither do I.
I Would have liked to know who are the parents of my Inquisitor, his sibling, how he was sent to the Conclave, etc, but the new MO of BW is "whatever your headcanon wants".

One day, they're going to rely on headcanon so much that they might as well just give us the script and an eraser instead of an actual game...

[AresKeith]

Neither do I.
I Would have liked to know who are the parents of my Inquisitor, his sibling, how he was sent to the Conclave, etc, but the new MO of BW is "whatever your headcanon wants".

 

Even still we wouldn't know much about them anyway because Bioware would have to make a ton of pre-made models just to account for the Inquisitor's look

 

How you got the conclave was briefly stated when you chose your race, sadly it wasn't expanded on in time
 

[thesuperdarkone2]

But I don't like headcanon...

Essentially when the tone of what they said made maintaining the relationship more on the unlikely side.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Bah! That's enough for me I think. To tired to carry on...

I didn't lose this debate though! *points to every one of you* I didn't los- okay, I lost.

Time for sleep.

*pushes you to the ground*

I love winning! Mwahahaha.

[Boost32]

Even still we wouldn't know much about them anyway because Bioware would have to make a ton of pre-made models just to account for the Inquisitor's look

How you got the conclave was briefly stated when you chose your race, sadly it wasn't expanded on in time

They could always replicate what they did with Hawke's family, never head anyone complain about them.

[LightningPoodle]

*pushes you to the ground*
I love winning! Mwahahaha.

Guess I'm sleeping on the floor then.

[thesuperdarkone2]

What does the epilogue say.

The epilogue doesn't say anything about the Seekers unless you sided with the templars, where it just defaults to the ending saying that lots of templars joined the Cass' seekers. However, at the party, she says she is going to remake the seekers and that's pretty much it.

[AresKeith]

They could always replicate what they did with Hawke's family, never head anyone complain about them.

 

I've heard complaints about that and how they wanted to customize the family themselves 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I've heard complaints about that and how they wanted to customize the family themselves

They will never be able to make everyone happy.

[Andres Hendrix]

Don't forget how Cass is already miserable and she hasn't even been crowned Divine! She has also showed she is unsure of how she should do things. Her bipolar reactions to what you do to the Templars is evidence of this. Lastly, she only thinks of using brute force and no diplomacy at all. Her Divine keep tile doesn't exactly give me much hope for her rule alone.

 

The only way she'll succeed is through going the Vivienne way of crushing her enemies through brute force or essentially become the Inquisition's puppet as she is useless in diplomacy.

In one of the slides, Cassandra succeeds only because the Inquisition steps in (probably Josephine and or the Inquisitor if he or she is overly competent at the game) to negotiate.