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Andres Hendrix

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Yep.

 

I hope it will be less frustrating than the post-game conversations where there is....well, nothing, and that we'll get some info about how they stayed in touch during those years.

 

I can imagine Cass' going back to the Inquisition, making some disgusted noises before saying "F*** the chantry, I quit!" and then go back to her quizzylover. I think I would enjoy that.

I want Wuthering Heights level of drama, or I'm not playing Dragon Age ever gain lol. Don't think the last part will happen. If the so called 'trial' goes wrong I could see my Inquisitor saying something reminiscent of Sandor Clegane "**** the chantry, **** the Divine and **** your Maker."


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I want Wuthering Heights level of drama, or I'm not playing Dragon Age ever gain lol. Don't think the last part will happen. If the so called 'trial' goes wrong I could see my Inquisitor saying something reminiscent of Sandor Clegane "**** the chantry, **** the Divine and **** your Maker."

Ahah! It would be awsome to quit like this too.

As for the Wuthering Heights ending, I remember it has some kind of a happy ending...so, why not :P ! Usually, I love dramas, but here...I don't know, I'm afraid of too many feels I guess. But still, as long as it makes sense and it's well written, I'm in.

 

I didn't see the trailer, so I didn't know about that 'trial' ; it's seems like it's going to be a lot of things happening in that DLC, I can't wait.



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Ahah! It would be awsome to quit like this too.

As for the Wuthering Heights ending, I remember it has some kind of a happy ending...so, why not :P ! Usually, I love dramas, but here...I don't know, I'm afraid of too many feels I guess. But still, as long as it makes sense and it's well written, I'm in.

 

I didn't see the trailer, so I didn't know about that 'trial' ; it's seems like it's going to be a lot of things happening in that DLC, I can't wait.

No happy ending in Wuthering Heights I'm affraid.



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I am ready for Divine Victoria to rejoin me and kick in some keep doors.  Or Qunari the size of keep doors.



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Thats why I made Vivienne the Divine! (Not really)

The Inquisitor is happy, Cass is happy, Vivienne is happy and maybe Leliana is das, so everything is all right in the end.

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No happy ending in Wuthering Heights I'm affraid.

Maybe not happy-happy, but I thought it was more peaceful (with that last scene where Lockwood looks at the graves) and the wedding...For me it was less horrible. Anyway I have a bad memory and maybe I don't remember it correctly. Still... I think it's a bit extreme for DAI ; Cass' deserves some happiness :P.



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Thats why I made Vivienne the Divine! (Not really)

The Inquisitor is happy, Cass is happy, Vivienne is happy and maybe Leliana is das, so everything is all right in the end.

 

I wonder how the relationship between Cass and the Inquisitor will have evolved during the two-years gap. Did they have a bloomingtide wedding, things like that. :D


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I wonder if the Inquisitor and Cass' relationship will be used against us in the trial.

For instance, if she is on our side, those against the Inquisition will claim that it is only natural since it is a well known fact the Divine and the Inquisitor were...close before her ascension.


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I wonder if the Inquisitor and Cass' relationship will be used against us in the trial.

For instance, if she is on our side, those against the Inquisition will claim that it is only natural since it is a well known fact the Divine and the Inquisitor were...close before her ascension.

 

I would like that! I mean, I never got romanced Cass as the Divine but that would be nice!



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I wonder how the relationship between Cass and the Inquisitor will have evolved during the two-years gap. Did they have a bloomingtide wedding, things like that. :D


Hopefully they did, an alliance between the Trevelyans and the Pentaghast would shake the political theatre of Thedas, and the Inquisitor + Lady Seeker would be a formidable and powerful pair.

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You know what I want? I want the Chantry to just say "F*ck it! Inquisitor, there is no doubt you were sent by the Maker. You are free to do whatever you want." And then you get an option to take Cassandra on the Sunburst Throne, using it as a bed. She doesn't even have to be Divine. "Leliana/Vivienne, go use a peasant chair for the next couple of days. We've got 2 years to cover."

*light bulb* Someone with talent! Write this as fan fiction! :P
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#4787
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Maybe not happy-happy, but I thought it was more peaceful (with that last scene where Lockwood looks at the graves) and the wedding...For me it was less horrible. Anyway I have a bad memory and maybe I don't remember it correctly. Still... I think it's a bit extreme for DAI ; Cass' deserves some happiness :P.

I meant for Cathy and Heathcliff, the main romance in the novel and the two characters that I draw my allusion from. The point of the ending is that Heathcliff and Cathy's generation of Earnsahws and Lintons were wiped out due to the consequences of the all consuming passion between Heathcliff and Catharine. There is no happiness for the next generation until the last of the old (Heathcliff, a traditional bag of Byronic misery) dies. Lockwood is a just a nobody lol, a listener, and a partial observer. 

 

 

Cassandra does not deserve happiness as long as she won't allow herself any. Her accepting the position of Divine is her basically alienating herself from her love for the Ideal of 'greater good'; any happiness (if there is any at all) will have to come from duty (and romance novels if she even allows herself that). That which she had with the Inquisitor becomes meaningless in the present sense, and if she is to recover from any feelings of loss or rejection she will have to diminish the feelings she had for the Inquisitor.



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I wonder how the relationship between Cass and the Inquisitor will have evolved during the two-years gap. Did they have a bloomingtide wedding, things like that. :D

They have twelve children, and start a circus in Antiva.  :mellow:


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@Andres

- at the "Cassandra doesn't deserve happiness"

Now I kinda want an option to reject Cassandra should she take the position of Divine. If for two years, they haven't seen each other and only now they can because of some world event taking place, I'd feel like she doesn't want to make an effort. I, personally, can't have that in a relationship.

That's not to say I would pick that option. I can separate myself from the character (just a little) so I would probably never pick that option. I still would like it to be there though.

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@Andres

- at the "Cassandra doesn't deserve happiness"

Now I kinda want an option to reject Cassandra should she take the position of Divine. If for two years, they haven't seen each other and only now they can because of some world event taking place, I'd feel like she doesn't want to make an effort. I, personally, can't have that in a relationship.

That's not to say I would pick that option. I can separate myself from the character (just a little) so I would probably never pick that option. I still would like it to be there though.

Just to be clear it's "Cassandra does not deserve happiness as long as she won't allow herself any."



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Just to be clear it's "Cassandra does not deserve happiness as long as she won't allow herself any."


But if she's not making an effort, then she is still not exactly allowing herself any. In 2 years, if she hasn't called, wrote letters, sent an email, made smoke signals! Whatever! To let you know that she can't wait to go out on Friday, but suddenly the world is about to end so she can have a romantic little chat, I wouldn't call that allowing herself. More conveniance.
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But if she's not making an effort, then she is still not exactly allowing herself any. In 2 years, if she hasn't called, wrote letters, sent an email, made smoke signals! Whatever! To let you know that she can't wait to go out on Friday, but suddenly the world is about to end so she can have a romantic little chat, I wouldn't call that allowing herself. More conveniance.

But thats Cassandra, she will always put her job and the greater good above her happiness. She did it with Regalyan and she might do it with the Inquisitor.
While I think she still have feelings for the Inquisitor, if she is the Divine, she would never compromised her job continuing a relationship with him.
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I meant for Cathy and Heathcliff, the main romance in the novel and the two characters that I draw my allusion from. The point of the ending is that Heathcliff and Cathy's generation of Earnsahws and Lintons were wiped out due to the consequences of the all consuming passion between Heathcliff and Catharine. There is no happiness for the next generation until the last of the old (Heathcliff, a traditional bag of Byronic misery) dies. Lockwood is a just a nobody lol, a listener, and a partial observer. 

 

 

Cassandra does not deserve happiness as long as she won't allow herself any. Her accepting the position of Divine is her basically alienating herself from her love for the Ideal of 'greater good'; any happiness (if there is any at all) will have to come from duty (and romance novels if she even allows herself that). That which she had with the Inquisitor becomes meaningless in the present sense, and if she is to recover from any feelings of loss or rejection she will have to diminish the feelings she had for the Inquisitor.

 

When you put it That way... ;)

 

I see your point, and why not, as long as we can choose wether we'll make her/the inquisitor's life miserable or not.

 

Still, I do not agree with the "you don't deserve happiness because you don't allow yourself some". I see Cassandra as an altruistic character (with anger issues, etc.of course) who helps others to have a better life thus I think she deserves to be happy. Maybe I'm too optimistic/naive. But well, it's not the point of this topic, so here's more Cass'.

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But thats Cassandra, she will always put her job and the greater good above her happiness. She did it with Regalyan and she might do it with the Inquisitor.
While I think she still have feelings for the Inquisitor, if she is the Divine, she would never compromised her job continuing a relationship with him.


Which makes an "I'm tired of waiting for you" option to be even more appropriate. It might crush her, but it's not exactly fair for the Inquisitor if she isn't going do something to keep the relationship going.
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Is Cassandra a romance more immersive than Cullen?


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I wonder if the Inquisitor and Cass' relationship will be used against us in the trial.

For instance, if she is on our side, those against the Inquisition will claim that it is only natural since it is a well known fact the Divine and the Inquisitor were...close before her ascension.

I would like for that to happen in my play through. But, Cassandra is the type that wouldn't let anything else distracted her from her duty. She may be on the Inquisitor side, but she's most likely going to have evidence to back her up. But then again, she has been away from the Inquisitor for two years now, so maybe she won't be 100% on his side. 

 

Now I'm excited about my InquisitorxDivine Cassandra's relationship and that particular cutscene.  In the trailer, Vivienne was the Divine. 


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Which makes an "I'm tired of waiting for you" option to be even more appropriate. It might crush her, but it's not exactly fair for the Inquisitor if she isn't going do something to keep the relationship going.


I think she is already "crushed". Being the Divine is not what she wants IMO, I think she want to be with the man she loves, it is what would make her happy, but duty will always come first for her, she will be unhappy but she will not falter from the path she have chosen.

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I wonder if the Inquisitor and Cass' relationship will be used against us in the trial.

For instance, if she is on our side, those against the Inquisition will claim that it is only natural since it is a well known fact the Divine and the Inquisitor were...close before her ascension.

 

Oh I have no doubt those who are against the Inquisition are going to yell that Divine Victoria is nothing but a puppet leader you use to control the Chantry, and even more so if Cass was your lover.



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The poor Inquisitor, reduced to nothing but a ketch little effigy by his love who makes the supercilious Chantry out to be the grand sun, while he still sees Cassandra as his moon and stars. I imagine him dying, and in his final moments Cassandra the Divine running to him. Before she can put her arms around him, the Inquisitor turns away from Cassandra and finally lets her go. And maybe in that final moment with the Inquistor, Cassandra comes to understand the true loneliness of high office.


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The poor Inquisitor, reduced to nothing but a ketch little effigy by his love who makes the supercilious Chantry out to be the grand sun, while he still sees Cassandra as his moon and stars. I imagine him dying, and in his final moments Cassandra the Divine running to him. Before she can put her arms around him, the Inquisitor turns away from Cassandra and finally lets her go. And maybe in that final moment with the Inquistor, Cassandra comes to understand the true loneliness of high office.


Stuff like this is why I'm glad I put Leliana in charge