Cassandra Pentaghast - Thread 2.0 - Please tag your Trespasser spoilers!
#1251
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 06:20
#1252
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 06:25
She's right, you know Ventus. She never presented any "Patriarchy" like viewpoint.
Then again, if I'm randomly stepping in and defending her post... does that make me a White Knight?
Every time I see that word White Knight...I think of the chocolate bar tbh..

#1253
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 06:27
She's right, you know Ventus. She never presented any "Patriarchy" like viewpoint.
Then again, if I'm randomly stepping in and defending her post... does that make me a White Knight?
It makes you sexist...
She don't need no man to defend her! *snaps fingers*
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#1254
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 06:33
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#1255
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 08:18
>.>
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#1256
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 08:36
#1257
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 08:50
Boom does need someone to defend her though
>.>
I do?
#1258
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 08:56
But then there are a few amazing people on Tumblr, and I take my hat of to them.
I really like this post by willobea, it was in response to what is so bad about cullen being Bi. However, it applies to cassandra as well.
'Hmmm, bit of a leading question non because nothing in this fandom is as mild as “possibility”, and you make it sound like I have a problem with anyone being bisexual, which isn’t the case (because if it was I would have a problem with myself…)
The problem is that Cullen isn’t bisexual. That’s it. End of. He’s not, and neither is Cass and neither is Blackwall or Solas. They’re just not bisexual. Josie? Yep, love her, love her sexuality. Iron Bull? Love that pansexual. Sera? Dorian? The more queer the better.
When people try to change it? That’s what I don’t like.
The main reason is because you’re looking at a character and saying “no, they’re wrong, there’s a problem with them, we must change it”, which is the whole mentality that’s been directed at us for god knows how long.
The other main reason is because of the way that this fandom uses bisexuality to get their own way, fetishize and objectify characters. They do it with straight pairings, but it feels even worse when they throw my sexuality into it.
Most people would agree that a man getting all hot and sweaty over two women making out is ****** gross. If that same guy, objectifying the women and their sexualities, was then bleating about “representation!!”, you’d feel pretty sick to the stomach. Same applies the other way around.
It’s not about representation. It never has been.
The other thing that pisses me off? Shoving your headcanons (no matter what they are) in everyone else’s faces and then screeching at them if they don’t agree. They’re headcanons. Head-canons. I don’t care what people headcanon, but don’t stuff it down my throat, don’t tell me I have to agree, and don’t pile hate in my inbox (which is what happened last time I stated my opinion on this, joy) telling me I’m a bad person and “not a real bisexual”.
To be honest, when people first started talking about bisexual Cullen, I wasn’t happy, but I just ignored it and shrugged my shoulders because people can headcanon what they want. But now after all this fandom bullshit and people exploding over it, I really really detest the subject. '-willobea
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#1259
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 08:59
Boom does need someone to defend her though
>.>
Yep, and that would be me.
((National rivalries, and AFL aside, ofc.)
I do?
Yes, pulling kiwis out of the fire is a national tradition..![]()
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#1260
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 09:19
#1261
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 09:55
I do?
Yup
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#1262
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 10:14
o...o islanders are weird
>_>
<__<
*shares super secret handshake with boom*
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#1263
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 10:22
#1264
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 10:47
>_>
<__<
*shares super secret handshake with boom*
It's so secret I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right.....
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#1265
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 10:56
At that point, the only thing preventing women from entering is themselves, either by choosing not to work there or by leaving if they do already.
What also might prevent women from entering is being offered significantly less money than a comparable male employee (https://en.wikipedia...e_United_States). Or a boss (business partner) I once had to deal with, who stated "I don't hire women. Only get pregnant anyway". Or not being treated with respect by the male colleagues. etc. It's not true for every business, every company, every region etc. But it is true for many. And claiming "There is no social and economic inequality merely based on gender and prejudices" is about on the same level of open-mindedness as a few hundred years back the "scholars" claiming "The sun revolves around the Earth" or that the Earth were flat.
Of course, I and my experiences gathered over years of working for companies and federal institutions could be all wrong. What exactly is your expertise on the subject of women in business?
Facial hair in general is already just added maintenance and a complete waste of time,
How is trimming once in a while more maintenance overhead than shaving every day?
Most men I know wear a beard at the moment and they all claim it doesn't require much effort.
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#1266
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 03:38
It's so secret I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right.....
Tottaly ![]()
#1267
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 04:05
*snorts* so its another cheap knockoff?
Because if I remember right the 500 went into production in 2003 and then the Redhawk a few years later...
That said the company made a neat gun, I just don't see the point of that one.
I do like their 9/17 luger revolver though
I don't know if it's a knockoff or not, but it was made in Brazil to kill water buffalo.
#1268
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 04:15
Look, Ventus, this conversation will go nowhere, while you are automatically on the defensive. Never once did I refer to Patriarcy, or toxic masculinity. As for Laws applying by default, if you have enough money, or know the right people: those laws can be countered, spun, and even twisted against a person.
I get that guys, cop a lot of ****, from misinformed Tumblrina's, but not every legislation that encourages Women, is about attacking men. Just as every legislation encouraging men, is not about attacking woman.
I know you didn't. I mentioned those in advance because I fully expected them to be brought up eventually, seeing how they are 2 of the most popular "women's advocate" buzzwords. Anything they don't like is automatically a symptom of "the Patriarchy" and toxic masculinity.
If you want to talk about issues that women face, do it in the context of the third-world and in countries where women have actual problems (places like the Congo or Saudi Arabia, where women are actually treated as second-class citizens and actually have less rights than men), not this stupid and meaningless Western first-world nonsense.
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#1269
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 04:22
What also might prevent women from entering is being offered significantly less money than a comparable male employee (https://en.wikipedia...e_United_States).
The idea of the pay gap has been refuted and debunked so many times I fail to see how someone can actually mention it with a straight face and not have their head spontaneously explode from the sheer idiocy.
Or a boss (business partner) I once had to deal with, who stated "I don't hire women. Only get pregnant anyway".
Yes, women get pregnant. Between men and women, women are the ones that carry a fetus to term. And do you know what happens when a woman has a child? She takes maternity leave, during which time she won't be working. Depending on what country you live in, she'll still be paid for her time away, so all she's effectively doing is taking up an employee slot and receiving a paycheck despite not working. It's not the company's responsibility to make sure she has money to raise her child. It's almost like a woman who chooses to take a break from work to start a family should acknowledge that she may become less valuable as an employee at that point, because she can't put in as many hours as her male counterpart.
Or not being treated with respect by the male colleagues. etc.
Right. Are you ACTUALLY being treated with less respect, or do you THINK you are, so your confirmation bias is telling you that you are?
It's not true for every business, every company, every region etc. But it is true for many. And claiming "There is no social and economic inequality merely based on gender and prejudices" is about on the same level of open-mindedness as a few hundred years back the "scholars" claiming "The sun revolves around the Earth" or that the Earth were flat.
It's been a while since I've seen such a flagrant false equivalence.
Of course, I and my experiences gathered over years of working for companies and federal institutions could be all wrong. What exactly is your expertise on the subject of women in business?
But it hasn't been quite so long that I've seen an appeal to authority. "Bah, you're not a woman! How could you possibly know what women deal with?"
We've almost cleared out the card for this feminist Bingo, only need to talk about safe spaces, trigger warnings, and rape culture and we'll have hit every major point. Oh, and mansplaining and something about MRAs.
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#1270
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 04:33
Guest_StreetMagic_*
But it hasn't been quite so long that I've seen an appeal to authority. "Bah, you're not a woman! How could you possibly know what women deal with?"
We've almost cleared out the card for this feminist Bingo, only need to talk about safe spaces, trigger warnings, and rape culture and we'll have hit every major point. Oh, and mansplaining and something about MRAs.
It's not about being a woman. It's more that you're like 19 or something and might've not had a lot of time in a lot work environments, and unnecessarily talking mad sh*t here. Your anger is out of proportion. As if everyone is an Extreme Enemy. You're more or less among level headed, friendly people. Chillax.
#1271
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 05:00
It's not about being a woman. It's more that you're like 19 or something and might've not had a lot of time in a lot work environments, and unnecessarily talking mad sh*t here. Your anger is out of proportion. As if everyone is an Extreme Enemy. You're more or less among level headed, friendly people. Chillax.
I don't know if you can say someone is level headed when they look at something that is nonsensical crap like a wage gap and then claim that women are offered less money for work and push it as something that actually exists.
If anyone is construing my posts as being emotionally charged or angry, that's their prerogative. I'm just really tired of seeing misinformation parroted around like it's truth, and it disappoints me because I know that these are otherwise intelligent and admirable people doing the parroting, so it breaks my heart to see them fall for such profoundly stupid s**t.
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#1272
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 05:29
Guest_StreetMagic_*
It sounds emotionally charged. If you say it isn't, I'll take your word for it.
I'll leave it up to Siha and AWT to address you. I'm not even that interested in the subject itself.
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On another note, which Advisor/War Map approach do you think Cassandra appreciates the most? I'm thinking she might be happier with Josie's flavor of the Inquisition, more than Cullen. And Leliana the least.
#1273
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 05:45
On another note, which Advisor/War Map approach do you think Cassandra appreciates the most? I'm thinking she might be happier with Josie's flavor of the Inquisition, more than Cullen. And Leliana the least.
I'm hesitating between Josie and Cullen - the former because Cass knows how diplomacy is vital to the Inquisition (even though she prefers the direct way herself) and Cullen because he's all about the direct approach, pro and cons included!
Leli would definitely be the least too: too many secrets, too many lies, too many daggers in the back and throats cut.
#1274
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 05:48
What also might prevent women from entering is being offered significantly less money than a comparable male employee (https://en.wikipedia...e_United_States).
Ah ah, these statistics are skewed and don't account for skill, education, experience, their occupation, etc. It also doesn't account for things like leave for pregnancy, and all that, or the different fields that a woman might not even be interested or suited for working in.
In short, it's BS. All it shows is that women make less, which makes sense since in our country, men are the ones expected to work, not women. More women stay home than men here.
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#1275
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 05 juillet 2015 - 05:49
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I'm hesitating between Josie and Cullen - the former because Cass knows how diplomacy is vital to the Inquisition (even though she prefers the direct way herself) and Cullen because he's all about the direct approach, pro and cons included!
Leli would definitely be the least too: too many secrets, too many lies, too many daggers in the back and throats cut.
Yeah, I think she and Cullen are very alike... but I guess I was thinking that might make her appreciate Josie more... she makes up for her weaknesses.





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