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Anyone else hoping that ME:A is nothing like DA:I?


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#326
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4 million units is a bit over $300 million in sales. We can presume its comparable though to most BioWare games by $100 million, give or take. For CDPR it's a good thing for them to reach that point.

 

Now they need to back it up with Cyberpunk. I personally have reservations against it but well see. 

ME3 made $200 million iirc



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ME3 made $200 million iirc

 

Yes I know, hence why it's comparable.

 

They hit that $200 million mark less than a month after the release of Mass Effect 3 if I remember correctly. And it was estimated that the game sold over 5 million units, which would make probably be in the realm of $600 million in sales.

 

Which is not bad all things considered. Also why the numbers are comparable; I doubt Witcher 3 will hit over 8 million units, if it does I will be impressed. 



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They're pursuing different markets.


Not true. They are pursuing the exact same market. If anything DA is pursuing the bigger market because they are catering to both sexes while TW3 is mainly focused on a male character.

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Yes I know, hence why it's comparable.

They hit that $200 million mark less than a month after the release of Mass Effect 3 if I remember correctly. And it was estimated that the game sold over 5 million units, which would make probably be in the realm of $600 million in sales.

Which is not bad all things considered. Also why the numbers are comparable; I doubt Witcher 3 will hit over 8 million units, if it does I will be impressed.


Where the he'll are you getting your numbers?

5m X $60 = $300m

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And it seems that Bioware cant even achieve CDPR numbers. After two weeks, TW3 sold over 4 million units.


Sure about that, or is it "PR spin"?

Also, have you thought at all about the difference in competition Dragon Age and Witcher had in their release windows?

Inquisition had to contend with a pair of Assassin's Creed games, Far Cry, the latest Call of Duty game, and the Halo collection on the Xbox front.

Witcher 3 had to contend with ... uh, eh, erm, well ...
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Yes I know, hence why it's comparable.

 

They hit that $200 million mark less than a month after the release of Mass Effect 3 if I remember correctly. And it was estimated that the game sold over 5 million units, which would make probably be in the realm of $600 million in sales.

 

Which is not bad all things considered. Also why the numbers are comparable; I doubt Witcher 3 will hit over 8 million units, if it does I will be impressed. 

TW3 is probably going to outsell anything BioWare has put out


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Sure about that, or is it "PR spin"?

Also, have you thought at all about the difference in competition Dragon Age and Witcher had in their release windows?

Inquisition had to contend with a pair of Assassin's Creed games, Far Cry, the latest Call of Duty game, and the Halo collection on the Xbox front.

Witcher 3 had to contend with ... uh, eh, erm, well ...

only one of those is even remotely an RPG, its not like two shooters coming out on the same day



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TW3 is probably going to outsell anything BioWare has put out

 

Probably, but it will be closer than people think I believe.


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That answer I gave was regarding the overall sales numbers of ME2. Stop being simple. There are less than super obvious reasons for why things are the way they are and why things turn out the way they do.

TLOU was a critical and word of mouth success. It was also a first party exclusive from a very well known developer with an outstanding track record.

Sony''s expectations for TLOU re apples and oranges to EA'S expectations for their biggest games.

If you want to compare numbers you need to compare BW numbers to those of other THIIRD PARTY big name AAA developers. That is why I was throwing out names like Watch Dogs and Borderlands earlier in this thread.

Ii wasn't aware you're talking about sales number. But ME2 was a success both with critics and with the general audience. That is a fact. 



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only one of those is even remotely an RPG, its not like two shooters coming out on the same day


Doesn't matter. Games are games, and options are options.
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The Witcher 3 is a good game, CDPR is a good studio.  But outselling anything BW will put out? We'll see.


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Where the he'll are you getting your numbers?

5m X $60 = $300m

 

Its actually a lot more, $65 at least. Plus different markets need to be accounted for. 

 

I think 600 is a bit off yeah, maybe closer to $400-$450 in the end. Regardless, that is a good sale for Bioware.



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TW3 is probably going to outsell anything BioWare has put out


This is true. And for no good reason other than BW repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot.

DAI should have sold in the 7 to 9 mil range. Not struggle to break 4 million.

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This is true. And for no good reason other than BW repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot.

DAI should have sold in the 7 to 9 mil range. Not struggle to break 4 million.

 

Why?


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DAI should have sold in the 7 to 9 mil range. Not struggle to break 4 million.


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Just make it epic space opera like ME1 was. And I want regenerating ammo again. Come at me.



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Its actually a lot more, $65 at least. Plus different markets need to be accounted for.

I think 600 is a bit off yeah, maybe closer to $400-$450 in the end. Regardless, that is a good sale for Bioware.


That $60 number is the HIGH average for unit sales. Videogame prices go down pretty quickly. Not up.

I bought ME3 brand new for $18 dollars at Best Buy. This was not very long after release. Probably less than a month. It didn't make any sense to me at the time because I didn't know about the whole backlash thing that was going on at the time.

Anyway my point is the gross sales in dollars will probably be quite a bit lower than $60 X units sold because game prices always go down.

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DAI should have sold in the 7 to 9 mil range. Not struggle to break 4 million.

 

I, too, would really like to know what the basis for that statement is.



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That $60 number is the HIGH average for unit sales. Videogame prices go down pretty quickly. Not up.

I bought ME3 brand new for $18 dollars at Best Buy. This was not very long after release. Probably less than a month. It didn't make any sense to me at the time because I didn't know about the whole backlash thing that was going on at the time.

Anyway my point is the gross sales in dollars will probably be quite a bit lower than $60 X units sold because game prices always go down.

They also had the Mass Effect Trilogy bundle out too at that point, which cannibalized sales and had EA lower prices quickly.

 

I get that point, but you still didn't answer why Dragon Age Inquisition should have sold 7-9 million.



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These discussions about games sales are incredibly boring. You could have the news that x game sold 10 millions units and that the publishers and the developers are dying of happiness and yet some people would find room to challenge the game's success. It just seems to be the way things are.

I like to believe I'm practical. As I have little idea about the expectations that were surrounding the game and most times that actual sales themselves, I tend to look at what follows its release. Mass Effect 3 for example, as much as people were declaring its doom because they perceived the price drop of the game as unnatural, it had a very healthy follow up of content. Three majors DLC (Leviathan, Omega and Citadel) and many free multiplayer packs, some which add considerable content. Not the kind of support I would think a game that didn't sell well would have. 



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Oh boy, the executives are finally coming in.

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I missed the Cutscenes that Origins and 2 had I felt like Bioware ripped off skyrim a bit to much  hell the elder scrolls in general. please Bioware make mass effect unquie and stop copinging other peoples work, just because somthing works for one game it dose not mean it will 100% work for yours



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Oh boy, the executives are finally coming in.


Huh?

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I get that point, but you still didn't answer why Dragon Age Inquisition should have sold 7-9 million.


Because it came out in November. Or anyway, that was the reason a couple of pages ago.
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Not true. They are pursuing the exact same market. If anything DA is pursuing the bigger market because they are catering to both sexes while TW3 is mainly focused on a male character.

TW3 is an action game. That's a different market.