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Anyone else hoping that ME:A is nothing like DA:I?


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#351
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DAI should have sold in the 7 to 9 mil range. Not struggle to break 4 million.

And yet, EA's expectations were below its actual sales figures.

If DAI "should have sold in the 7 to 9 mil range", why didn't EA expect anything near that? Is EA that bad at forecasting? Or do you think they're violating securities laws by lying to their shareholders?

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I'll say one thing for DA:I, that point in the story where it looks like you've lost everything and then the surviving members of your Inquisition start singing really choked me up a bit.  The game had some problems but it says a great deal when a "game" can have a true emotional effect.

 

Hmm... and my friends say I have no emotions.  :P



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TW3 is an action game. That's a different market.

Action RPG

Just accept it, TW3 is doing better than DAI sales wise and review score wise.

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Sylvius the Mad

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Action RPG

Action RPG is a proper subset of action games.

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Action RPG is a proper subset of action games.


Just like DAI is an Action RPG
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Just like DAI is an Action RPG


Saw that coming. DAI has pause and Tactical options; TW3 does not. But at this stage, facts do not seem to matter to a few....

#357
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I don't consider Witcher 3 a true RPG to be completely honest. A static main character and lack of classes, or any really deep character building, hold it back for me in that regard. I consider it an action game with RPG elements that, lets be honest, almost every game has in this day and age.

 

Doesn't stop it from being one of the best games I've played, but I honestly find the game to be pretty shallow in its gameplay. There's only a handful of armors that actually look decent, no matter what "build" you go for you never lose access to abilities, and the gameplay is really simplistic and easy. Death March lost all semblence of difficulty after I became Lv3. The game shines when its dealing in its story, characters, and side quests, but on a gameplay aspect I don't consider it anything special.



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DAI has classes, a plethora of builds for each class, character customization from appearance, to how they react to the story, as well as the ability to customize party members. I don't consider action RPG a subset of action games, I consider it its own genre which has been losing its identity since every game includes RPG elements these days. An action RPG is the same thing as a traditional RPG, just not turn-based imo.

 

Witcher 3 and Inquisition are both completely different experiences from one another in my eyes, and I hate comparing them.



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If you guys honestly think that EA is misleading investors you should contact the Audit Committee immediately with your...evidence.

 

1-800-249-5916 (in the US) or (503) 748-0520 (outside of the US)


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Saw that coming. DAI has pause and Tactical options; TW3 does not. But at this stage, facts do not seem to matter to a few....


Pause and tactical options does not define a rpg. CDPR defines TW3 as an Action RPG and so does the major review media outlets.

Geez, you guys will say anything to diminish the fact that TW3 is doing better than DAI.

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If you guys honestly think that EA is misleading investors you should contact the Audit Committee immediately with your...evidence.

 

1-800-249-5916 (in the US) or (503) 748-0520 (outside of the US)

 

I actually wanna see someone do this too lol



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The Emperor: "Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you."

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DAI is a success - Fact; can be proven. It could be even better with improvements, but that still does not erase the achievements and accolades.

 

Not to disagree with the statement about DAI success completely but I would take into consideration first DLC sales. One thing is to sell your game - with a good PR and no competition (at launch) it was not that hard. Another thing is to keep the attention. JoH sale was not that great, was it? And look at the forums and presentations: all news about DAI you really have to dig up, like EA does not care to announce anything about DAI publicly. There was nothing on E3 about DAI. And main forum on BSN now is MEA, like DAI is an old news nobody cares about. And it's less then half a year after game release! For comparison - remember for how long ME3 was a top game? Constant news, DLC one after another, a lot of discussions... 

Mb DAI is a success but EA certainly does not push that success and it does not feel like a big success. 


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#363
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Action RPGs are still RPGs. 


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Just like DAI is an Action RPG

But you don't have to play it like one.

DAI's point-and-click pause-and-play gameplay is what makes it playable for a great many people.

Just as VATS made FO3 and FO:NV playable for a great many people.

Forcing everyone to play the same way narrows your market.

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For god's sake, they're both good games, one is indeed better, but that's not even the point, you guys are reaching the maximum point of stupidity by comparing sales of each game where the thread wasn't about that since the start. Who cares which game sold most? You aren't getting any penny from it, and sales barely means quality, just grown up and get back on topic.

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Pause and tactical options does not define a rpg. CDPR defines TW3 as an Action RPG and so does the major review media outlets.

Geez, you guys will say anything to diminish the fact that TW3 is doing better than DAI.

I don't care that TW3 is doing better. It's not relevant.

Also, CDPR doesn't get to define genres for us. I'm not denying TW3 is an RPG (though there is an argument there, as there is for any game with a fixed protagonist or action combat or auto-dialogue), but whether it is one has nothing to do with whether they say it is.

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Action RPGs are still RPGs.

They're also action games.

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Just accept it, TW3 is doing better than DAI sales wise and review score wise.


You actually think Sylvius cares about those things? Seriously, have you ever read the man's posts?

Actually, I'm not sure anyone here really cares how well TW3 is selling, unless it's you.
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They're also action games.

I imagine that's the point. Saying they aren't RPGs at all is wrong and frankly elitist 


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I imagine that's the point. Saying they aren't RPGs at all is wrong and frankly elitist 

 

Well said


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They're also action games.

 

Doesn't make them any less RPGs


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Pillars of Eternity was the only true RPG.



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Pillars of Eternity was the only true RPG.

 

No, Original SIn is - turn based combat.



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Actually, I'm not sure anyone here really cares how well TW3 is selling, unless it's you.


I do, actually. Means we'll see more from CDPR, and more from the action-RPG genre in general.
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I wrote about this months ago...

 

They are all role-playing games in some form. Discussion is more or less over.