I'd like MEA to copy DAI's habit of hiding good side content out of the way; for instance the dragons (which I didn't even start fighting them until my 3rd playthrough).
You didn't fight a single dragon in two playthroughs? Even if they are in the way of completing quests?
You didn't fight a single dragon in two playthroughs? Even if they are in the way of completing quests?
I fought the one in the final quest, of course, but apart from that, no.
I fought the one in the final quest, of course, but apart from that, no.
I completed all of DA:I (complete playthrough, only missing one mosaic piece because it was bugged) in ~120h. All quests done, all collections finished (except the bugged one), all dragons slain.
And then I never played it again because it was all so dreadfully boring and meh.
I just know that it will be like DA I
I completed all of DA:I (complete playthrough, only missing one mosaic piece because it was bugged) in ~120h. All quests done, all collections finished (except the bugged one), all dragons slain.
And then I never played it again because it was all so dreadfully boring and meh.
So you burnt yourself out? Suppose every player's different. For example, I've completed 3 playthroughs of between 90-100 hours each, and I'm still enjoying the game.
So you burnt yourself out? Suppose every player's different. For example, I've completed 3 playthroughs of between 90-100 hours each, and I'm still enjoying the game.
In my third campaign, but the first two took 600+ hrs to complete including DLC. And I have yet to slay all the Dragons!
A 300 hour playthrough (on average)? And I thought I was taking my time! 
A 300 hour playthrough (on average)? And I thought I was taking my time!
In my third campaign, but the first two took 600+ hrs to complete including DLC. And I have yet to slay all the Dragons!
To be fair, you spend a lot of time paused in combat or in crafting menus. 
I love Inquisition. Sure, it has its downsides, but the things it does well I'm hoping Andromeda will be able to replicate so long as it fits, and the things that were great ideas but didn't work so well in practice, I think can be refined and improved.
A 300 hour playthrough (on average)? And I thought I was taking my time!
Yeah I generally take my time but then I think I'm averaging about 200 hours per playthrough. Origin is telling me I've spent 733 hours in the game and I've done 3 and I plan on more yet as well as I have my next playthrough planned out but I'm not planning to start it for a while yet as I'm working on other things.
So you burnt yourself out? Suppose every player's different. For example, I've completed 3 playthroughs of between 90-100 hours each, and I'm still enjoying the game.
Me too and I have a 4th one planned as well. Not doing it just yet though.
In my third campaign, but the first two took 600+ hrs to complete including DLC. And I have yet to slay all the Dragons!
I have as i set myself the task of going after them all in my second playthrough . I didn't in my first or 3rd playthrough's though. In my first it was mostly because I didn't know where all the dragons were at the time. in my 3rd I decided to only kill the dragons that weer between me and any missions I was completing at the time.
So you burnt yourself out?
Not really, that's how I play all games. It didn't stop me from re-playing most of them, I've got ~13 playthroughs of DA:O, ~8 of DA2 and more than I can count for the Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate and Knights of the Old Republic series. That's just the BioWare games... I've put thousands of hours into other games as well.
It's just that I never got really into DA:I, it felt empty to me and at times playing it was a chore. Not to mention that it was aggravating. I took several long breaks between sessions before I found the motivation to play some more, always hoping it would become more fun. It never did. With other games I could barely wait through the credits before I started a new playthrough, with DA:I I was glad it finally ended.
I have yet to beat that game. In fact, I don't even remember how far into DA:I I have gotten. It was forgettable for me.. But I own it, and I might as well beat it. I hope I'll grow into liking the game... This is my first DA game after all.
I hope, ME:A isn't how I have experienced DA:I to be.
Yeah I generally take my time but then I think I'm averaging about 200 hours per playthrough. Origin is telling me I've spent 733 hours in the game and I've done 3 and I plan on more yet as well as I have my next playthrough planned out but I'm not planning to start it for a while yet as I'm working on other things.
Me too and I have a 4th one planned as well. Not doing it just yet though.
I have as i set myself the task of going after them all in my second playthrough . I didn't in my first or 3rd playthrough's though. In my first it was mostly because I didn't know where all the dragons were at the time. in my 3rd I decided to only kill the dragons that weer between me and any missions I was completing at the time.
I loved Inquisition. It's expansion of the criminally underrated lore is completely ignored by critics
even by those who enjoyed the game (especially the Elven lore). Few invest time reading into
these aspects within the codex or online so the plot, ending or post-epilogue scenes may could come
across as underwhelming for the uninitiated.
I don't mind if MEA takes a different direction but if there is one aspect of the Dragon Age franchise I
hope that they implement in new Mass Effect is that they include party banter. Greater character
interaction is always appreciated for me.
I loved Inquisition. It's expansion of the criminally underrated lore is completely ignored by critics
even by those who enjoyed the game (especially the Elven lore). Few invest time reading into
these aspects within the codex or online so the plot, ending or post-epilogue scenes may could come
across as underwhelming for the uninitiated.
I don't mind if MEA takes a different direction but if there is one aspect of the Dragon Age franchise I
hope that they implement in new Mass Effect is that they include party banter. Greater character
interaction is always appreciated for me.
I read the entire codex, I know all the lore... and it still didn't impress me. 
Finally enabled my first Inquisitor with enough abilities, crafted items, accessories, and Perks to slay all the Dragons in the game; none with the aid of Iron Bull. Total hours = 303+
yeah I usually bring the Bull with me to kill them. I just love his comments when you see a dragon and get ready to slay it.
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yeah I usually bring the Bull with me to kill them. I just love his comments when you see a dragon and get ready to slay it.
Definitely. I dislike going where I'm told, but most games don't give you anything else to do.I'd like MEA to copy DAI's habit of hiding good side content out of the way; for instance the dragons (which I didn't even start fighting them until my 3rd playthrough).
I read the entire codex, I know all the lore... and it still didn't impress me.
The entire codex? Wow, you're read more than most (including me). What motivated you to read the
entire all 500+ codex entries if you weren't impressed?
The entire codex? Wow, you're read more than most (including me). What motivated you to read the
entire all 500+ codex entries if you weren't impressed?
Because that's how I play games. I read all the notes, books and codex entries just in case I need that knowledge in a conversation or to solve a puzzle. Some of them are quite interesting, too. For example, the codex entry for Emperor Florian is a nice story on its own.
But even that can't save a superficial, bland and boring game like DA:I. It mostly suffers from a dumbed down gameplay, lots and lots of timesinks and an utterly predictable story with a disappointing villain, all set on railroad tracks that don't allow you much freedom to change the outcome.
Because that's how I play games. I read all the notes, books and codex entries just in case I need that knowledge in a conversation or to solve a puzzle. Some of them are quite interesting, too. For example, the codex entry for Emperor Florian is a nice story on its own.
But even that can't save a superficial, bland and boring game like DA:I. It mostly suffers from a dumbed down gameplay, lots and lots of timesinks and an utterly predictable story with a disappointing villain, all set on railroad tracks that don't allow you much freedom to change the outcome.
You and I will have to disagree on the quality of Inquisition. It brought me many hundreds of hours of enjoyment and fun gameplay.
Yes, they over emphasized the exploration so it's super easy to get lost in it and lose track of the main story, yes the main story is relatively short in comparison to the massive amounts of side content and yes the end fight is weak.
But, the main story still took me over 30 hours to get through, which is what ME1 takes for me, and a lot of other games. A full complete playthrough taking 20-30 hours was what used to be expected in games, like KOTOR and KOTOR 2, Mass Effect 1, and so on. So even in just main story content it still had enough content to make it worth the price for me to buy it.
Also, the racial choices and the ability to make decisions throughout the game is something I've always loved about Bioware games. Other companies try to mimic the diverging choices, and I think only the Witcher series matches or is better than Bioware at it. No other game series I've played matched Bioware in their ability to have player choices altering quest paths.
I also love the established lore, and since I went on a media blackout before it came out, a lot of the revelations in the lore hit me like a ton of bricks and I loved every minute of it. And the main villain, while weak at the end, felt totally logical how things ended as they had, which is a leap beyond what ME3's original ending had, which came out of left field, altered the themes developed over a trilogy and essentially broke nearly every promise Bioware made about the ending of ME3 whereas Inquisition's ending's biggest flaw is that it's not as strong as it could've been.
I feel it's a shame you feel so strongly that Inquisition was a bland game, but I personally love it. I love the characters, I love the companions, I think all the Voice Acting is spot on, even both sets of voice actors for the Inquisitor of either gender, and there are characters I love to hate because they are that believable.
I recognize that the team making Dragon Age is very different from the team making Andromeda and the Mass Effect series, but I at least am optimistic about the game, even if I'm not excited or disheartened because....reasons.
All I know about Andromeda is that I know next to nothing about it. Jetpacks, the N7 in the trailer is NOT the protagonist, we're in Andromeda, there'll be the Mako, and some races are returning....and that's about it. There not any room to criticize it because we don't know enough specifics to criticize, and it's irrational to lash out at Bioware in general because of past games, games we all love otherwise we wouldn't even be here on the Bioware game forums.
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