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[Kmaru]

@ INVADERONE, ur video is just hilarious. But by the end of the day the amout of nudity in all of those video games is about 0.00... something. And let's never forget that video games are a way for us to be distracted from our routines. 

[Han Shot First]

 

MEAndromeda comes out....and we hand it over to Conan for review...I have a feeling that, yes, that will be its focus for some to unlock that scene as opposed to seeing the Mass Effect Franchise as having the most amazing stories in gaming ever.

 

 

 

 

Conan is a comedian. He is not doing these to seriously review a game. Jokes are going to happen with or without nudity in the game because that is the purpose of the Clueless Gamer segments. You're not going to hear, "The Mass Effect franchise has one of the most amazing stories in gaming ever" unless it comes from the other guy playing the straight man.

[maRia0sp]

I'd rather they skipped the "scene" instead of making them wear stupid underwears  *thinks of DAO*

[Pasquale1234]

I don't disagree with your statement, but if the writers feel a scene is more effective with nudity, then I would hope they wouldn't feel hindered.

You realize that can work both ways, though, right? I think the success of CDPR - along with the "I WANNA SEE BEWBZ" set may have put additional pressure on other devs to show those bewbz, and at this point, they may be specifically composing scenes with an eye toward that goal.

I've youtubed some of the sex scenes from DAI, and imho, the nudity added nothing - at least not anything that could not have been done at least as well, if not better, sans nudity.

[Jaquio]

You realize that can work both ways, though, right? I think the success of CDPR - along with the "I WANNA SEE BEWBZ" set may have put additional pressure on other devs to show those bewbz, and at this point, they may be specifically composing scenes with an eye toward that goal.

I've youtubed some of the sex scenes from DAI, and imho, the nudity added nothing - at least not anything that could not have been done at least as well, if not better, sans nudity.

 

For the vast majority of "nude" scenes in games, I actually agree with you.  Though having nude scenes doesn't really bother me, so long as it's not exploitative.  I'm in the "do it or don't do it, just be honest" crowd as I've explained.  (The collectible "cards" in TW1 were particularly icky in an exploitative way).

 

BUT...

 

I feel that if I had the time and energy, I could make a good case for the Cassandra scene being better for having nudity.

 

The main idea being:  Cassandra is very closed off and has built a lot of protective walls around herself emotionally.  Much of this is demonstrated through her maintenance of fighting form.  There are a lot of conversations with Cassandra about armor, and fighting.  (A good banter between Bull and Cassandra lauds the practicality of her armor).  I feel like her physical armor, in a way, mirrors the emotional armor that she has put around herself given the death of her brother, parents, lover, etc.

 

Thus, by breaking down those barriers through the romance path, the lack of clothing in a way also becomes a visual analog for the intimacy and vulnerability she is showing the Inquisitor.  Could they have done that with tasteful angles to not show any actual nudity?  Sure.  But I think actually showing the nudity makes the entire scene more impactful.  They also did it tastefully, though, as she was nude in the scene, but the scenes didn't highlight or explicitly focus on her nudity.

 

Just my opinion though.

[Lady Luminous]

You realize that can work both ways, though, right? I think the success of CDPR - along with the "I WANNA SEE BEWBZ" set may have put additional pressure on other devs to show those bewbz, and at this point, they may be specifically composing scenes with an eye toward that goal.

I've youtubed some of the sex scenes from DAI, and imho, the nudity added nothing - at least not anything that could not have been done at least as well, if not better, sans nudity.

Well, that's your prerogative, but I personally love Bull's scenes. I think they were incredibly well done, and brought in a layer of authenticity and vulnerability.

[Lady Luminous]

You realize that can work both ways, though, right? I think the success of CDPR - along with the "I WANNA SEE BEWBZ" set may have put additional pressure on other devs to show those bewbz, and at this point, they may be specifically composing scenes with an eye toward that goal.

I've youtubed some of the sex scenes from DAI, and imho, the nudity added nothing - at least not anything that could not have been done at least as well, if not better, sans nudity.

Well, that's your prerogative, but I personally love Bull's scenes. I think they were incredibly well done, and brought in a layer of authenticity and vulnerability.

[INVADERONE]

@ INVADERONE, ur video is just hilarious. But by the end of the day the amout of nudity in all of those video games is about 0.00... something. And let's never forget that video games are a way for us to be distracted from our routines. 

 

Yeah I like Conan's Clueless gamer series. It's something else. I just had to replay it again...cracked me up. And to your point. I get it.

[Aesa]

I'll never understand why this is an issue in an M rated game. Violence is OK but not boobs? I mean...they're just boobs. Personally I find sex scenes with bras and underwear immersion breaking. The shower scene with Traynor in ME3 immediately comes to mind. I thought the nudity in DAI was tasteful. 

 

I've youtubed some of the sex scenes from DAI, and imho, the nudity added nothing - at least not anything that could not have been done at least as well, if not better, sans nudity.

 

Of course it seems to add nothing when you are experiencing it out of context, but when it's in the moment, after you've spent all that time building up the romance and getting to know your LI, it is much more meaningful. As Jaquio and CaptivatingKS have already pointed out, it adds to the authenticity, as well as to your LI's character development and your relationship with them. This is particularly impactful with Cass because she spends so much time in her defensive shell. The nudity is a subtle way to show that she has opened herself up to the Inquisitor and willingly made herself vulnerable.

[medusa_hair]

I support the request for the same type of nudity as in DA: I.  I didn't see an issue with it.  Obviously, I'd like it to be even.  Even DA: I was really skewed in this way.  Cassandra, Sera, and Femquisitor were all naked for the gals.  Only Dorian was naked for the guys.  Cullen kind of was, but it was all done in the Austin Powers "conveniently blocking objects" approach.  I don't think either males or females need to go full-frontal, but if females do, then guys should too. 
 
There's absolutely no ESRB reason why it would make a difference.  There's no difference between male and female nudity.  Or graphic and casual nudity.  They is just 'nudity' and 'no nudity'.  Now, if the nudity is also involved in actual sexual encounters, then it could also effect the 'sexual content' category as well.  But nudity by itself (such as Dorian and Cassandra in DA: I) doesn't have any difference in the rating.  I know this first hand from an ESRB rater who is one of my closest friends. 
 
In general, I don't need it in the game, but I certainly don't mind it either.  I agree that it should make sense for the scene.  If the scene should include a naked person, then the character should be naked or the scene should be changed.  Just make it make sense and not be too graphic or anything and it should all be fine.

I agree totally with this. I thought the dorian scene was refreshing, actually...if nudity is appropriate in a situation that goes for whether it's a woman or a man in that situation, usually. The underwear sex/underwear showering is just silly. Theoretically we are all adults and nudity is not the reason we are playing but it spoils immersion if the PC or NPC is hopping into the shower with their nightie on. Although I have to admit I have once or twice gotten in the shower with my glasses on...but that's by accident. :-)

[Pasquale1234]

Of course it seems to add nothing when you are experiencing it out of context, but when it's in the moment, after you've spent all that time building up the romance and getting to know your LI, it is much more meaningful. As Jaquio and CaptivatingKS have already pointed out, it adds to the authenticity, as well as to your LI's character development and your relationship with them. This is particularly impactful with Cass because she spends so much time in her defensive shell. The nudity is a subtle way to show that she has opened herself up to the Inquisitor and willingly made herself vulnerable.

Which is no doubt the reason why it was placed in the great outdoors. Her unveiling was so much more meaningful in a location where any voyeur who happened to come along could take in the view.

The context isn't relevant to me, not in an RPG. I'm in the less is more camp, and actively dislike / loathe the fact that games have become so overwhelmingly cinematic. I end up mentally overwriting most of the scenes, anyway, since they rarely fit the character I'm trying to roleplay.

[spinachdiaper]

Now if they cross the line South Park the Stick of Truth did with nudity...that's some funny and disturbing stuff

[Ahglock]

Wouldn't bother me to have it in, but i don't need it in either.  Like I dont need heads to expload when you do a kill head shot, but it being in doesn't offend me either. I don't think either really add anything to the game.  But hey if it makes other people happy I guess add all the "adult" content people want. 

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Hey if they can spice up their love making scenes and make them better than Witcher 3, I'll die a happy virgin.

[Andrew Lucas]

I'd rather they skipped the "scene" instead of making them wear stupid underwears  *thinks of DAO*

That music tho...makes it watchable.

Ahrahaa tsu nanaaaa uuuuiuu nenenene

Something like that.

[MrMrPendragon]

Nudity? Hmm, I don't know man. I love my underwear sex scenes.

[TheBunz]

What? No one came out with a skin mod for me3 like they did for skyrim? Problem solved, learn to hack

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Nudity? Hmm, I don't know man. I love my underwear sex scenes.

Hey don't ruin it for anybody!! And who does sex with their underwear in real life anyway? I personally don't see the big deal with nudity, we see TnA uncensored all the time so why not put them there? They're getting there on DA:I so they can do that on ME:A. (hopefully like Witcher 3 and making them better than them)

[Lucca_de_Neon]

I like nudity. Is that what we are talking about?

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

I like nudity. Is that what we are talking about?

Yes.

[Lucca_de_Neon]

Yes.

Ok! Good job, everyone. Case closed!

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Ok! Good job, everyone. Case closed!

What do you think about the whole nudity thing and what do you want to see? (Feel free to say anything I can take it)

[Ahglock]

Rise from your grave.

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[Lucca_de_Neon]

What do you think about the whole nudity thing and what do you want to see? (Feel free to say anything I can take it)

I think that nudity is a human right and that the UN should intervene at once to protect this liberty we all enjoy!.

On the other hand, it's all a matter of context. Just like we don't walk naked on the street, we don't wear ugly underwear when we know we are about to get laid (on some cases, we don't wear them at all)

I've said!

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

I think that nudity is a human right and that the UN should intervene at once to protect this liberty we all enjoy!.
On the other hand, it's all a matter of context. Just like we don't walk naked on the street, we don't wear ugly underwear when we know we are about to get laid (on some cases, we don't wear them at all)
I've said!

Well that's a fine way to put it. Again I don't see the issues with nudity and sex scenes in video games, bit isn't labeled M for mature for nothing. Just put it in NC-17 rating with the stuff and let it be that. (Oh did you looked Lollipop Effect up on Google what I mentioned you on the locked topic of cheap romances?)