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[Andrew Lucas]

So, nudity....

Luv it s2.

[9TailsFox]

We're all nude, get over yourself.

[daveliam]

Freedom of speech is allowed only if you are an "oppressed minority", otherwise everyone needs their "safe space" and you shouldn't hurt their feelings, no matter what kind of BS they are spouting in the name of one mass delusion or another. Using logic is especially offensive.

 

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^ Still doesn't understand what the First Amendment actually says.......  <sigh>

[Commander Rpg]

^ Still doesn't understand what the First Amendment actually says.......  <sigh>

The amendments say or support a lot of imbecilities, usually.

[9TailsFox]

^ Still doesn't understand what the First Amendment actually says.......  <sigh>

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

[Laughing_Man]

^ Still doesn't understand what the First Amendment actually says.......  <sigh>

 

Oh, I understand perfectly.

 

Freedom of speech is essentially there to prevent an ideological tyranny, and ideological tyranny can come from unexpected sources as well as obvious ones.

 

It certainly isn't there to allow extremists (of any kind) to verbally rampage and propagate violence and hate.

Nor is it there to allow certain political groups to dominate the conversation by silencing all other voices.

[daveliam]

Oh, I understand perfectly.

 

Freedom of speech is essentially there to prevent an ideological tyranny, and ideological tyranny can come from unexpected sources as well as obvious ones.

 

It certainly isn't there to allow extremists (of any kind) to verbally rampage and propagate violence and hate.

Nor is it there to allow certain political groups to dominate the conversation by silencing all other voices.

 

^ STILL doesn't get it. 

[daveliam]

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

 

^ This one gets it.

 

Unless the U.S. Government has made any laws about how you "can't hurt anyone's feelings" or against "using logic", then this isn't a First Amendment situation.......

 

Hyperbole thy name is BSN.

[Draining Dragon]

^ This one gets it.
 
Unless the U.S. Government has made any laws about how you "can't hurt anyone's feelings" or against "using logic", then this isn't a First Amendment situation.......
 
Hyperbole thy name is BSN.

He didn't mention the First Amendment. He mentioned freedom of speech. You've made a straw man argument.

[daveliam]

He didn't mention the First Amendment. He mentioned freedom of speech. You've made a straw man argument.

 

Freedom of speech, even outside of the First Amendment, is related to government regulation of speech.  Unless you are taking a Greek philosophical usage of the phrase, in which case, it's still being applied incorrectly.

 

But I should probably stop before more QQing ensues about how mean nasty people are restricting "freedom of speech" on the boards......

[SlottsMachine]

On the other hand, America has the largest porn industry in the world.

 

Well at least America is doing something right. 

[Laughing_Man]

^ STILL doesn't get it. 

 

^ This one gets it.

 

Unless the U.S. Government has made any laws about how you "can't hurt anyone's feelings" or against "using logic", then this isn't a First Amendment situation.......

 

Hyperbole thy name is BSN.

 

Are you a lawyer?

 

I originally didn't even mention any laws or amendments, hell, I'm not even an American.

Freedom of speech is a basic idea of democracy, not just a law.

 

If your counter argument is to say that "that's not the real law" you are truly desperate.

Of course that's not the law, but that's what it was twisted into.

 

And by the way, slowly but surely the law itself changes in this direction as well, at least in certain places.

 

An example would be a certain law in NY that allows authorities to fine up to a 250k USD a person who used an "incorrect pronoun" when referring

to a transgender person, the specifics are somewhat vague.

 

That seems to me just a tiny bit extreme, but you would probably disagree. Right?

[Draining Dragon]

Freedom of speech, even outside of the First Amendment, is related to government regulation of speech.  Unless you are taking a Greek philosophical usage of the phrase, in which case, it's still being applied incorrectly.
 
But I should probably stop before more QQing ensues about how mean nasty people are restricting "freedom of speech" on the boards......

Freedom of speech is an inalienable human right. Rights can potentially be infringed upon by individuals or by government.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Well at least America is doing something right.

And prostitution is legalized in Nevada so it's not all bad. But some countries are better with sexuality a hell of a lot better than the U.S.

[Seboist]

And prostitution is legalized in Nevada so it's not all bad. But some countries are better with sexuality a hell of a lot better than the U.S.

 

Only in some counties AFAIK.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Only in some counties AFAIK.

Me personally I think the whole world should legalize prostitution, nudity and sex on mature games, shows and movies. Everybody will be so happy!

[Draining Dragon]

Me personally I think the whole world should legalize prostitution, nudity and sex on mature games, shows and movies. Everybody will be so happy!

humanity pls

[Jewellzify]

Well if we're taking this thread to a political stand point.. Bioware has the freedom of expression and should not have to cut nudity because a few dislike, disagree, or are offended by the content.. At the end of the day, Bioware is the developer of the game and their decisions on where to take this game is up to them...

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Well if we're taking this thread to a political stand point.. Bioware has the freedom of expression and should not have to cut nudity because a few dislike, disagree, or are offended by the content.. At the end of the day, Bioware is the developer of the game and their decisions on where to take this game is up to them...

I think they'll do it because they have been outmatched by Witcher. As long there is no underwear involved in sex scenes and no fade to black bs, I think they can pull it off.

[Iakus]

Well if we're taking this thread to a political stand point.. Bioware has the freedom of expression and should not have to cut nudity because a few dislike, disagree, or are offended by the content.. At the end of the day, Bioware is the developer of the game and their decisions on where to take this game is up to them...

Sure, they are free to make their own decisions.  Just as they were free to make the ME3 endings.  

 

But I'd say that allowing more options will draw more people than allowing fewer options.

[Khrystyn]

This thread has devovled to off-topic. Arguing about the right to post a comment and not be slammed for it? If

 

If 1,144 posts (to date) on this thread have not yet covered every thought that one can say about nudity scenes in Andromeda, then I'd be surprised. This thread should be closed. And those who are bickering here should be blocked from posting anything on these forums for a month.

[AlainSki]

This thread has devovled to off-topic. Arguing about the right to post a comment and not be slammed for it? If

 

If 1,144 posts (to date) on this thread have not yet covered every thought that one can say about nudity scenes in Andromeda, then I'd be surprised. This thread should be closed. And those who are bickering here should be blocked from posting anything on these forums for a month.

 

I agree, this tread should be Closed. _{(and ME:A should contain a lot of nudity)}

[goishen]

I agree, this tread should be Closed. _{(and ME:A should contain a lot of nudity)}

 

 

I agree.

[aoibhealfae]

People want their off-topic back. Hear that mod.

[Andrew Lucas]

Well if we're taking this thread to a political stand point.. Bioware has the freedom of expression and should not have to cut nudity because a few dislike, disagree, or are offended by the content.. At the end of the day, Bioware is the developer of the game and their decisions on where to take this game is up to them...

Exactly. Those who don't any nudity shouldn't buy those games, easy as that.

Thank you, move along.