I would be fine with that, as long as the ambiance didn't change.Or they could have met in the middle and used shadows and clever camera angles to suggest nudity without explicitly showing it.
The lack of nudity would also potentially have resulted in a scene as odd as Traynor & Fem Shep's clothed make out session in the shower. You'd have two characters laying together on the grass in a private moment, after having slept together, having put full armor back on.
Not necessarily.
The scene could have been with them back at Skyhold with them in bed under a sheet (it's not like the Inqisitor's bed is used for anything anyway)
Or the conversation could have been later, as they were dressing.
Or the conversation could have taken place later, at another point where Cassandra and the Inquisitor were sharing a private (clothed) moment.
The only way to have done that scene differently and not reduce the characters to weirdos who spoon in plate armor, would be to use different camera angles and position the characters differently where the nudity is implied but not actually shown.
I can live with that. They did that in ME1 anyway.
I can live with that. They did that in ME1 anyway.
ME1 actually had partial nudity. Hence that whole Fox News controversy.
ME3 had the camera angles and lighting tricks that implied nudity without showing it, although only with Liara's scene. With others it varied from fade to black (Garrus) or oddities like clothed showering or characters' putting their bras back on to sleep.
My preference for Andromeda would probably be either something similar to ME1's scenes or Liara's scene in ME3 for all characters.
My preference for Andromeda would probably be either something similar to ME1's scenes or Liara's scene in ME3 for all characters.
I wouldn't say that I prefer it, but it is certainly better than awkward clothed sex.
I resent the implication that this is anything but normal behavior, and I'm tired of being discriminated against for being attracted to bulky plates and helmets. I know you're Han Solo so you have a thing against Stormtroopers and whatnot that could make you unreasonably prejudiced, but you should be more considerate in your comments ;___;The only way to have done that scene differently and not reduce the characters to weirdos who spoon in plate armor
I wouldn't say that I prefer it, but it is certainly better than awkward clothed sex.
Problem isn't clothed sex per say, it's that that there's bits of clothing in the way of the action.
ME1 actually had partial nudity. Hence that whole Fox News controversy.
ME3 had the camera angles and lighting tricks that implied nudity without showing it, although only with Liara's scene. With others it varied from fade to black (Garrus) or oddities like clothed showering or characters' putting their bras back on to sleep.
My preference for Andromeda would probably be either something similar to ME1's scenes or Liara's scene in ME3 for all characters.
There is also implications without showing nudity. Dragon Age 2 comes to mind as an example of that.
The nudity is probably a response to previous implications but in truth I think it's mostly just a non-issue. With or without nudity, the impact comes from the staging and dialogue more than anything else.
I want to chime in and say that nudity is a must. ME3 was rated M and sheepishness about showing the organic body in pixel form isn't very progressive.
Mother(bleep) them kids!!!Oh God the children, the poor children, someone has to shelter the children and their sensitive eyes :'(
Well, I have no problem with there being uncensored nudity, but all Bioware really need to do is ignore that fade to black thing they sometimes do.
Well, I have no problem with there being uncensored nudity, but all Bioware really need to do is ignore that fade to black thing they sometimes do.
Nah, I think fading to black is very classy way to do it and reminds me of old James Bond movies. We all know what's gonna happen but instead of some awkward clumsy animations limited by the engine and what BW dares to show us it's totally up to our imagination.
If you want more, go watch some of theses adult movies that are said to be everywhere on the internet.
Nah, I think fading to black is very classy way to do it and reminds me of old James Bond movies. We all know what's gonna happen but instead of some awkward clumsy animations limited by the engine and what BW dares to show us it's totally up to our imagination.
If you want more, go watch some of theses adult movies that are said to be everywhere on the internet.
Well, alright, you've swayed me. Who the hell am I to argue against James Bond? Free clothes for everyone!
To peen or not to peen. that is the question.
Not necessarily.
The scene could have been with them back at Skyhold with them in bed under a sheet (it's not like the Inqisitor's bed is used for anything anyway)
Or the conversation could have been later, as they were dressing.
Or the conversation could have taken place later, at another point where Cassandra and the Inquisitor were sharing a private (clothed) moment.
I can live with that. They did that in ME1 anyway.
The latter two don't work at all. Because they're not vulnerable, since they're dressed. The first scenario is the only equivalent one, except without the nudity you fail at conveying the same degree of vulnerability.
Look - it's fine to say you're against nudity. But at the very least appreciate that it has an actual narrative purpose.
Just go with nude. I mean what are we, monks?
The latter two don't work at all. Because they're not vulnerable, since they're dressed. The first scenario is the only equivalent one, except without the nudity you fail at conveying the same degree of vulnerability.
So characters can't be displayed as vulnerable if they're dressed? There are thousands of books, games, movies, and shows that disprove your notion.
I think you're deliberately misunderstanding this point.So characters can't be displayed as vulnerable if they're dressed? There are thousands of books, games, movies, and shows that disprove your notion.
So characters can't be displayed as vulnerable if they're dressed? There are thousands of books, games, movies, and shows that disprove your notion.
They're not vulnerable in the same way. I think it's pretty clear based on the context that I wasn't advancing the absolutely insane proposition that it's only possible to be vulnerable while naked, but rather the reasonable proposition that the kind of vulnerable you portray using nudity is different from the kind of vulnerable you portray while clothed.
In the context of a relationship, nudity conveys a particular kind of vulnerability, openness, and acceptance. Part of that is social convention. You can rail against it if you want, but it doesn't change the basic fact that this is part of how we view nudity.
I think you're deliberately misunderstanding this point.
I think they mean this specific scene if Cassandra were back in her standard armour, it wouldn't be effective.
I'm not misunderstanding anything.
Not her standard armor perhaps, but there is a pretty wide margin between wearing full combat armor and explicit nudity to work with.
They're not vulnerable in the same way. I think it's pretty clear based on the context that I wasn't advancing the absolutely insane proposition that it's only possible to be vulnerable while naked, but rather the reasonable proposition that the kind of vulnerable you portray using nudity is different from the kind of vulnerable you portray while clothed.
To which there are still hundreds of various media mediums that disprove your assertion. There are better ways to express that kind of vulnerability than having explicit nudity on the screen. At times it can actually detract from it.
To which there are still hundreds of various media mediums that disprove your assertion. There are better ways to express that kind of vulnerability than having explicit nudity on the screen.
No, there aren't. There are lots of media examples of different kinds of vulnerability, but it requires an impressive level of obtuseness to insist that there's only one kind of way to be vulnerable and that it's interchangeable with others.
But now we get to the crux of the issue - you think nudity isn't a good way of portraying vulnerability. That's fine. That's your real point. You can go on insisting that without the silly proposition that portraying vulnerability using nudity is the same as doing it without. It's as silly as saying that portraying vulnerability while angrily screaming is the same as portraying it while meekly crying.
We won't see eye to eye on it, but at least we can have a reasonable disagreement on values without trying to win an unwinnable values debate.
But now we get to the crux of the issue - you think nudity isn't a good way of portraying vulnerability. That's fine. That's your real point. You can go on insisting that without the silly proposition that portraying vulnerability using nudity is the same as doing it without. It's as silly as saying that portraying vulnerability while angrily screaming is the same as portraying it while meekly crying.
We won't see eye to eye on it, but at least we can have a reasonable disagreement on values without trying to win an unwinnable values debate.
No, I don't think explicit nudity is a good way at portraying that kind of vulnerability, and can even detract from it. Implicit nudity on the other hand does a much better job at expressing that kind of vulnerability and intimacy and whatever else a scene requiring nudity needs to have the most impact.
For example, let's look at say the post-sex ME3 Liara scene(just without the underwear on Shepard) and the post-sex DAI Cassandra scene. Both are having a character involved express their vulnerability, despite the former being implicit by looking at their backs and the latter explicit by looking at their fronts. Both scenes capture that feeling well, showing that explicitness isn't required to have the full impact.
why is it everytime a new game comes out people ask for nudity or sex mods?
I agreeHumans okay, but I really don't know if I want to see a naked Turian or Krogan, and I don't think they will ever show us Quarians without suits.
agreedI would perfer all nudity be kept above the waist as well.
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