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What matters is that it's interesting. But they need to be more manly this time and not female. Yeah. .. otherwise it's not so great when you're a straight female xD

Be careful what you wish it can become true, all male race in andromeda not so nice parasite, like asari are.

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Well of course as long as I get a fair amount as well! It will make MEA that much more immersive! Whatever faults the vanilla game has, PC modders will fix it!

 

Of course! We both get some, that's fair! :D



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They can be naked! They just don't have a penis for technical reasons! I'm sure that issue will be rectified with MEA! I don't typically seek out penis mods, myself, but I'm sure there is probably fully nude male mods for DAI by now! Skyrim has full nudity for women and men on PC!


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Somehow I doubt that.

 

The whole ME series doesn't go much beyond texture modding and recovering lost content.

That's because there was never really an incentive for modding on PC for Mass Effect. Dragon Age, in comparison, had a pretty big modding community. Not to mention, with this game going open world, there is going to be a lot of opportunities to do great things. Modding is becoming more and more popular on PC everyday.

 

Of course! We both get some, that's fair! :D

That's a good girl! I was afraid I was doing all the work here!


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That's because there was never really an incentive for modding on PC for Mass Effect. Dragon Age, in comparison, had a pretty big modding community. Not to mention, with this game going open world, there is going to be a lot of opportunities to do great things. Modding is becoming more and more popular on PC everyday.

 

It's also engine related and what the particular company actually allows and makes possible through publishing tools. DA:O had an abundance of mods. DA:I has very little in comparison.

 

Right now, only Bethesda actually encourages extensive modding. And it remains to be seen if they keep up the promise with FO4. It's almost march and still no G.E.C.K. The only explanation I have for that is them not being able to cut a deal with the console companies, since they promised to publish simultaneously for PC and consoles.



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Be careful what you wish it can become true, all male race in andromeda not so nice parasite, like asari are.

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It's also engine related and what the particular company actually allows and makes possible through publishing tools. DA:O had an abundance of mods. DA:I has very little in comparison.

 

Right now, only Bethesda actually encourages extensive modding. And it remains to be seen if they keep up the promise with FO4. It's almost march and still no G.E.C.K. The only explanation I have for that is them not being able to cut a deal with the console companies, since they promised to publish simultaneously for PC and consoles.

To be honest, BioWare has never publicly supported the modding community for any of its games. Supposedly, Frostbite 3 is supposedly too difficult to mod for, according to DICE and BioWare. You don't need published mod tools or an official mod kit to mod. That just makes it easier. It all depends on how much work you want to put into the game.

 

Creation Kit is taking time because it's a hassle to do. As far as when mods are coming, Todd Howard said they will be coming to PC first, approximately between the launch of the first and second DLC. After it has been thoroughly tested on the PC platform, it will then come to X1 about a month later and then PS4 approximately another month.

 

BGS isn't the only one to support mods officially, they are just the most well-known. CDPR did it for TW2 with the RED Kit, but it's yet to be seen whether there will be a mod kit for TW3. Valve and Blizzard have always supported modding. What people don't realize is modding is nothing new to PC. BGS just gets a lot of attention because they are predominantly a console developer these days and keep wanting to bring mods to consoles.



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BGS isn't the only one to support mods officially, they are just the most well-known. CDPR did it for TW2 with the RED Kit, but it's yet to be seen whether there will be a mod kit for TW3. Valve and Blizzard have always supported modding. What people don't realize is modding is nothing new to PC. BGS just gets a lot of attention because they are predominantly a console developer these days and keep wanting to bring mods to consoles.

 

I never was interested in the Witcher series because of the absolutely fixed protagonist. So I don't have any experience with BGS. Well, DA:O had at least something that made it easier to actually add mods. It was also the most popular. If you look at the Nexus, the least liked game was DAII. DA:I isn't doing that much better, so far.

 

Well, Todd Howard said, the creation kit would come some time in early 2016. Whatever that means. But, I fear, since the hype is already dying down and since modders have a harder time with a fully voiced protagonist to add new content, that FO4 won't get as popular as FNV, which has over 16.000 mods on the nexus alone.



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I never was interested in the Witcher series because of the absolutely fixed protagonist. So I don't have any experience with BGS. Well, DA:O had at least something that made it easier to actually add mods. It was also the most popular. If you look at the Nexus, the least liked game was DAII. DA:I isn't doing that much better, so far.

 

Well, Todd Howard said, the creation kit would come some time in early 2016. Whatever that means. But, I fear, since the hype is already dying down and since modders have a harder time with a fully voiced protagonist to add new content, that FO4 won't get as popular as FNV, which has over 16.000 mods on the nexus alone.

How is that any different from any of BioWare's fixed protagonists? Especially since Shepard, less and less control has been given to players when crafting these protagonists. I really don't see any difference between Shepard and Geralt, other than you can't pick his gender or alter his face. Otherwise, same kinds of decisions and choices in a BioWare game. Well, Witcher decisions are more nuanced being shades of grey instead of BioWare (good - neutral - bad).

 

I'm just saying there are mods for Dragon Age. I've modded DAO extensively and I even modded DAII as well. I haven't modded DAI yet due to just not having time, but I know it has a pretty robust modding community. I know there's a mod to allow female Inquisitors to romance Cass and it got a pretty big following.

 

Answers your question about when the creation kit is coming to PC:

http://www.gameinfor...vival-mode.aspx

 

What's truly ironic about your statement is BGS didn't even create FNV. Obsidian did! I love Obsidian. They make such great sequels (KotOR II, FNV), yet they are such an underrated studio.



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How is that any different from any of BioWare's fixed protagonists? Especially since Shepard, less and less control has been given to players when crafting these protagonists. I really don't see any difference between Shepard and Geralt, other than you can't pick his gender or alter his face. Otherwise, same kinds of decisions and choices in a BioWare game. Well, Witcher decisions are more nuanced being shades of grey instead of BioWare (good - neutral - bad).

 

Male/female, different classes, different abilities.

 

I'm not endorsing the course they've taken with their last installment of ME, where it's more or less a cinematic experience with a few interrupts. But that's happening to many games these days, last but not least, in a long row, FO4, where your dialogue choices absolutely don't matter. You can call your counterparts all kinds of names and the game continues as if you were sweet talking them.



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Male/female, different classes, different abilities.

 

I'm not endorsing the course they've taken with their last installment of ME, where it's more or less a cinematic experience with a few interrupts. But that's happening to many games these days, last but not least, in a long row, FO4, where your dialogue choices absolutely don't matter. You can call your counterparts all kinds of names and the game continues as if you were sweet talking them.

While Geralt is stuck as a male, there are actually different "classes" in the game. Whether you are a swordsman, sign user, potion master, or prefer using traps/bombs/crossbow, there are a variety of ways to play the game. There's a lot of progression, maybe too much in TW3. It's a bit convoluted actually.

 

I actually like the inclusion of a voiced protagonist. I think it can lead to a better story. I just think BGS screwed it up with Fallout 4. None of the choices you make actually change anything and most of them are just random and don't make sense. They didn't structure their dialogue properly like BioWare or CDPR, so VO is just really bad in Fallout 4.

 

At least for me, the cinematics and storytelling in Mass Effect were a game change in video games, in my opinion. It literally took storytelling to a whole new level and it's why Mass Effect is one of my favorite game series of all time.



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At least for me, the cinematics and storytelling in Mass Effect were a game change in video games, in my opinion. It literally took storytelling to a whole new level and it's why Mass Effect is one of my favorite game series of all time.

 

I like very different genres, actually. I spent about 600 hours in a totally unmodded Pillars of Eternity and an equal amount in a heavily modded FNV.

 

Mass Effect appeals to me because of it's characters, well most of them. I won't name the ones I don't like, since there are regular cults going on about them and I don't want to bring the wrath of the cultists down on me. But the characters are much more important to me in any Bioware game than the actual gameplay of fighting. In my opinion, that's the one thing where Bioware really shines, compared to others.

 

But the last games I played with a character that wasn't at least in some ways customizable at the start, was Mafia, the first one and the first GTA.



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I like very different genres, actually. I spent about 600 hours in a totally unmodded Pillars of Eternity and an equal amount in a heavily modded FNV.

 

Mass Effect appeals to me because of it's characters, well most of them. I won't name the ones I don't like, since there are regular cults going on about them and I don't want to bring the wrath of the cultists down on me. But the characters are much more important to me in any Bioware game than the actual gameplay of fighting. In my opinion, that's the one thing where Bioware really shines, compared to others.

 

But the last games I played with a character that wasn't at least in some ways customizable at the start, was Mafia, the first one and the first GTA.

Another Obsidian game! I think you secretly like Obsidian more than BioWare!

 

I agree. In fact, I'd say BioWare has done a mediocre job with combat in most of their games. It's the companions and relationships that make a BioWare game memorable.

 

But yes, if BioWare were just to do full on nudity instead of forcing modders to do it, this conversation wouldn't even be necessary. After TW3 was GotY last year and had plenty of full frontal nudity cutscenes with Triss, Yen, and a few others, I think sex scenes of that caliber are just going to become a standard. Of course, even Geralt still suffers from pants disease, but the women are fully naked.



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Pillars of Eternity trash



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Origins had the best nudity.



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Another Obsidian game! I think you secretly like Obsidian more than BioWare!

 

 

It's indeed one of my favorite companies. In my opinion, they're leading in actually telling a story.

 

In Bioware games I don't feel the need to persue the story. I rather spend time in between missions, with the companions. And, to tell the truth, I wouldn't touch any Bethesda game if there wasn't the modding community taking care of the mess. They never had a good story, at least since Morrowind, and they don't have good NPC interactions. You start out as the dirt under everyone's fingernail and you end up in the exact same spot, as far as NPCs go.

 

And no, I don't think, most companies will strive for more nudity. Mainly because of the American market and the rating, which is more accepting of violence than nudity.



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It's indeed one of my favorite companies. In my opinion, they're leading in actually telling a story.

 

In Bioware games I don't feel the need to persue the story. I rather spend time in between missions, with the companions. And, to tell the truth, I wouldn't touch any Bethesda game if there wasn't the modding community taking care of the mess. They never had a good story, at least since Morrowind, and they don't have good NPC interactions. You start out as the dirt under everyone's fingernail and you end up in the exact same spot, as far as NPCs go.

 

And no, I don't think, most companies will strive for more nudity. Mainly because of the American market and the rating, which is more accepting of violence than nudity.

Morrowind is my favorite game of all time. BGS since then has been my favorite developer, but they've never hit that magic again. Radiant AI was cool in Oblivion, but far from perfect. Modding is really what saves BGS as their vanilla games really have continued to decline in innovation and become more and more mediocre over time.

 

I'm not suggesting full on video game sex. That would lead to an AO rating and Sony and Microsoft do not allow AO games on their platforms. I do think it's not unreasonable to believe we'll get full frontal nudity, at least with women, as a standard. Rockstar has shown a penis in two of their games and gotten away with it, so even that's a possibility. If anything, TW3 proves how far you can take it without alienating any particular market. Again, TW3 was 2015's GotY and sold incredibly well in the American market.



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Agreed. The voiced protagonist, cinematic cutscenes, dialogue wheel, etc. were all massive innovations that have changed BioWare games forever. Unfortunately, BioWare hasn't done much to evolve their model since ME1 in terms of storytelling. Maybe MEA will be a larger leap since this is their first true next gen game (DAI was available on last gen). It seems to me, though, MEA is really just taking ideas that were already in ME1 and reusing them.

I do find it funny that people are getting excited over the return of the mako and planetary exploration. It's like the excitement people felt when Bioware confirmed you could customize your party in Inquisition. In both instances it's just Bioware bringing back a feature it had cut.



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I do find it funny that people are getting excited over the return of the mako and planetary exploration. It's like the excitement people felt when Bioware confirmed you could customize your party in Inquisition. In both instances it's just Bioware bringing back a feature it had cut.

Sort of. It didn't make any sense that DAII removed companion customization. We now know it was because of the game's short development cycle, but there was absolutely no reason for the game to be that simplistic.

 

I think what makes the return of the mako and exploration interesting is the fact BioWare could do some really amazing and innovative things with it. While it wasn't perfect in ME1, I actually enjoyed the feature. ME2 and ME3 certainly lost something by becoming entirely linear experiences.

 

Not that this has anything to do with nudity, but we actually did have partial nudity in ME1, which was changed in ME2 and ME3 (unless you romanced Liara). So, even for nudity, should it be in the game, it will be a return of a feature that was originally in ME1.



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If ME: Andromeda is an adult rated game, then give us content befitting that age rating. Give us full nudity, male and female, give us consensual sex acts. Were all adults, so stop holding back because some religious kooks that dont even play video games might get upset and go whining to Fox news.


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If ME: Andromeda is an adult rated game, then give us content befitting that age rating. Give us full nudity, male and female, give us consensual sex acts. Were all adults, so stop holding back because some religious kooks that dont even play video games might get upset and go whining to Fox news.

If you mean MEA getting an AO-rating, that will never happen. Even if BioWare wanted to, Adult Only games are banned by all three console developers (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft). There is no way BioWare would only make the game for PC, which is the only platform AO-rated games are allowed. Now, the game could still get a M-rating with full frontal nudity and even show the genitalia. What they couldn't do is show actual penetration: oral, anal, vaginal, or otherwise. I am referring to the ESRB exclusively. I have no idea how other rating agencies in countries outside the US would handle this kind of sexual content. Likely, Germany and Australia would ban the game outright.


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But yes, if BioWare were just to do full on nudity instead of forcing modders to do it, this conversation wouldn't even be necessary. After TW3 was GotY last year and had plenty of full frontal nudity cutscenes with Triss, Yen, and a few others, I think sex scenes of that caliber are just going to become a standard. Of course, even Geralt still suffers from pants disease, but the women are fully naked.

We'd still have this conversation because those who don't want "plenty of full frontal nudity cutscenes" would have to find a way to mod it out.

 

Maker, Witcher does some things very well, but I hope it doesn't become a standard for that!


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We'd still have this conversation because those who don't want "plenty of full frontal nudity cutscenes" would have to find a way to mod it out.

 

Maker, Witcher does some things very well, but I hope it doesn't become a standard for that!

Mods wouldn't be necessary. BioWare would just have a toggle in the settings to black out explicit sexual scenes for those who do not want them.

 

In my personal opinion, one of the aspects TW3 has handled well is romance scenes and nudity.



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Mods wouldn't be necessary. BioWare would just have a toggle in the settings to black out explicit sexual scenes for those who do not want them.

 

In my personal opinion, one of the aspects TW3 has handled well is romance scenes and nudity.

Heh, "toggles" don't seem to be very popular...

 

From what I've seen, nudity in the Witcher is eye candy and little else.



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Mods wouldn't be necessary. BioWare would just have a toggle in the settings to black out explicit sexual scenes for those who do not want them.

 

In my personal opinion, one of the aspects TW3 has handled well is romance scenes and nudity.

Yep that is why only the women are naked and Geralt is wearing his linen boxer shorts. So well handled, not a double standard at all. 


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