What's wrong with nudity and sex?
I wasn't even addressing that issue. That argument has been talked to death, and I'm nauseated with it.
I'm writing about the in-game methods that might help people achieve their customizations for optional attire in a variety of situations - not the results.
What's wrong with nudity and sex? It isn't M for mature for nothing it's a mature game for a mature audience
who want to see or expect nudity and adult contentsome of whom have grown very tired of the steady stream of sex and nudity featured in every form of media that deals with mature subject matter.
Nudity in DA:I fell into the "just about right" zone for me! It was handled tastefully and used only where appropriate. That being said, The Witcher 3 didn't offend me either with its depictions of nudity. Fantasy games such as this, which do feature copious amounts of gore and/or bloodletting should not be squeamish about showing naked bodies where necessary.
Fantasy games such as this [with] copious amounts of gore and/or bloodletting should not be squeamish about showing naked bodies where necessary.
And on and on it goes.
I'm fine with nudity as long as it's tasteful and not over the top or going on for to long. I mostly liked how they did it in DA:I and TW3. I always found the underwear thing and fade to black a bit immersion breaking. So yeah, i'd be fine if they just carried on with what they did in Inquisition. Maybe less of the comedy sex scenes tho, I find that all a bit weird and childish tbh.
No no! I'm not talking about you I'm just talking in general of what you mentioned of age restrictions, criminal investigations, and the matter. I don't even know why some countries and restrictions are banning sexuallity in the media and we as a human race experience sexuallity everyday and it's part of life. But it will be different if they put child pornography, sexual torture, and any evil content it will be entirely different story, then they can take measures to put them down for degrading sexuallity.I wasn't even addressing that issue. That argument has been talked to death, and I'm sick of it.
Nudity in DA:I fell into the "just about right" zone for me! It was handled tastefully and used only where appropriate. That being said, The Witcher 3 didn't offend me either with its depictions of nudity. Fantasy games such as this, which do feature copious amounts of gore and/or bloodletting should not be squeamish about showing naked bodies where necessary.
I wouldn't have minded DAI nudity if it wasn't nothing but topless women.
I want some equal opportunity nudity for a change.
I wouldn't have minded DAI nudity if it wasn't nothing but topless women.
I want some equal opportunity nudity for a change.
Well atleast the men were nude in some scenes. Like Dorian with the Inquisitor, or Cullen with the Inky. They just didn't show what you wanted to see? Lets go straight at this, animating a fully functional penis for so few scenes is sort of a waste of time. Also no female genitalia was shown in the game, was it? Writing this post was weird.
Well atleast the men were nude in some scenes. Like Dorian with the Inquisitor, or Cullen with the Inky. They just didn't show what you wanted to see? Lets go straight at this, animating a fully functional penis for so few scenes is sort of a waste of time. Also no female genitalia was shown in the game, was it? Writing this post was weird.
The way you describe it I picture fully animated male arousal scenes so no, I wouldn't want that, just some swinging bits probably would have been fine. But I actually would have been satisfied with at least a healthy variety of ass shots for guys, because as it was I think the only one was connected to Dorian's romance and everyone else got shafted - pun not intended.
Are you implying i'm one of those people Dave? You'd be wrong if that's the case.
And let's not pretend it doesn't go both ways. Plenty here will rabidly bash realism if someone uses it to criticise the amount of gay companions or something considered "progressive" but are quick to use the realism arguments in threads like this.
I wouldn't have minded DAI nudity if it wasn't nothing but topless women.
I want some equal opportunity nudity for a change.
I guess Dorian shirtless wasn't enough for you. And seeing his butt wasn't enough either. We never saw crotch shots of the females (or males), btw. Is that what you wanted for Dorian? If you want hardcore porn, then...well, you're on the internet.
That's because people who use it have no understand of reality and are terrifyingly ignorant of statistics. There's a pretty big difference between an appeal to the physical rules that govern our reality and a poster's total inability to understand that RPG parties are not simple random samples.
They are not?
So you like reality only in your salad and not in your steak...
That's essentially what he said.
Nudity in DA:I fell into the "just about right" zone for me! It was handled tastefully and used only where appropriate. That being said, The Witcher 3 didn't offend me either with its depictions of nudity. Fantasy games such as this, which do feature copious amounts of gore and/or bloodletting should not be squeamish about showing naked bodies where necessary.
I've been impressed by CD Red's handling of it largely but nudity wasn't one of the issues i had with DAI either.
Squeamishness over some level of nudity has always seemed insane to me given the gore/violence.
The nudity in TW3 was tastefully done and being a female playing a male, I could see the obvious male fan service, but it didn't bother me. I loved having Geralt romance all the ladies lol and I also thought it was nicely done when you romance Bull, Blackwall or Dorian in DAI but Witcher fell short (said this in another topic) with one thing. Recycled love making animations. It became really annoying really fast. In DAI each romance felt a lot more exclusive, minus a few awkward kissing and dancing scenes in which Dwarf and Qunari's height adapted oddly to match a human's sometimes.
The way you describe it I picture fully animated male arousal scenes so no, I wouldn't want that, just some swinging bits probably would have been fine. But I actually would have been satisfied with at least a healthy variety of ass shots for guys, because as it was I think the only one was connected to Dorian's romance and everyone else got shafted - pun not intended.
Not all nudity is treated equally when it comes to content ratings. Bare backsides, male or female, are the equivalent of bare breasts. Both fall under the 'partial nudity' category, which is what we had in both the original Mass Effect and DA:I.
Nudity (dropping the partial) is when a character, male or female, is shown full frontal.
DA:I didn't give any special treatment to either straight male or gay/bi female gamers with the nudity, as every gender and sexual preference combo had some scenes that featured partial nudity and some that didn't. The equivalent of a male character being full frontal nude would have been a female character full frontal nude.
Not all nudity is treated equally when it comes to content ratings. Bare backsides, male or female, are the equivalent of bare breasts. Both fall under the 'partial nudity' category, which is what we had in both the original Mass Effect and DA:I.
Nudity (dropping the partial) is when a character, male or female, is shown full frontal.
DA:I didn't give any special treatment to either straight male or gay/bi female gamers with the nudity, as every gender and sexual preference combo had some scenes that featured partial nudity and some that didn't. The equivalent of a male character being full frontal nude would have been a female character full frontal nude.
DAI had only breasts and butts, yet is rated for Nudity not Partial Nudity.
DAI had only breasts and butts, yet is rated for Nudity not Partial Nudity.
I just checked it, and you're right.
Typically sideboob or a bare backside is rated partial nudity instead of nudity, so either the ESRB is inconsistent, or the ESRB considers a frontal shot of breasts nudity instead of partial nudity.
Either way, there definitely wasn't any portrayals of a fully nude female character in the game. A depiction of male genitalia would not be the on the same level as bare breasts. The former is a bit more explicit.
Not all nudity is treated equally when it comes to content ratings. Bare backsides, male or female, are the equivalent of bare breasts. Both fall under the 'partial nudity' category, which is what we had in both the original Mass Effect and DA:I.
Nudity (dropping the partial) is when a character, male or female, is shown full frontal.
DA:I didn't give any special treatment to either straight male or gay/bi female gamers with the nudity, as every gender and sexual preference combo had some scenes that featured partial nudity and some that didn't. The equivalent of a male character being full frontal nude would have been a female character full frontal nude.
DAI gave special treatment to straight men/lesbians because we got to see Femquis, Cass, Sera breasts and meanwhile get only one male ass shot that was sexual orientation gated.
This isn't equal. If heterosexual men and lesbians get to see multiple shots of big breasts flopping around then at the very least the rest of us are entitled to see Cullen, Solas and Blackwall's naked asses during intimacy sequences.
Unpretentious nudity like DAI would be fine, thanks.
The way I see it you have two broad options: either make it unnecessary for nudity to be featured in your game (iffyish prospect when your game also includes adult relationships) or treat a naked body like a naked body. But whatever you do, do not include scenes of showering seductively in your underwear.
[I can't help wondering how many of the people using words like "tasteful" and "gutter", or even "gratuitous", realize just how subjective, and therefore useless, those terms are with respect to expressing their preference. <shrug>]
To please the largest audience Bioware should put as much nudity and sex into the game they can get away with for an M rating, then provide no-nudity and no-sex option toggles along with a cut scene slider which determines how far the camera pans or pulls back (etc., how revealing the scenes are).
I would like no nudity. Why give the anti gaming lobby even more to complain about in a shooter game. If I wanted porn I could look up a porn site, not a game.
This will get parents backs up as well, causing a lot of kids to miss out. We all know mum has no problem with Tommy killing 300 folk in a hour but heaven forbid he sees a bare bum. Sales = Happy EA after all.
I'd actually be content with having no nudity and going back to ME1 style sex scenes, even though I doubt they'd do it. ME1 had the best "intimate" scenes of any BW game anyway, and they managed to be far more sexual whilst never actually showing any private parts than everything in DAI which had nudity so there you go.
This will get parents backs up as well, causing a lot of kids to miss out. We all know mum has no problem with Tommy killing 300 folk in a hour but heaven forbid he sees a bare bum.
That's something that should be addressed not kowtowed to.
I would like no nudity. Why give the anti gaming lobby even more to complain about in a shooter game. If I wanted porn I could look up a porn site, not a game.
This will get parents backs up as well, causing a lot of kids to miss out. We all know mum has no problem with Tommy killing 300 folk in a hour but heaven forbid he sees a bare bum. Sales = Happy EA after all.
As opposed to a good bottle of wine, this argument doesn't get any better with age. And old it is.
First, as I already said, shooting something is so much less disturbing for the kiddies tender feelings than an exposed nipple. Sounds logical, doesn't it. Can't be too young to see heads explode, but seeing some privates might call for lifelong psycholigal treatment.
Secondly, and in connection to the above - why should kids play shooters or games that are obviously not catered to them?
Third, this series never was an outright shooter. If it was, I wouldn't have played it. I already got bored with shooters some 15 years ago. They offer nothing to me. And I guess the gazillions of love interest threads on this board point to the fact that I'm not alone with this opinion.
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