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Can Bioware show kissing and caressing during "sex" scenes?


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#51
WildOrchid

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Now thats a MAN'S game!!!!

 

LOL


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Torgette

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Honestly don't care, it's awkward no matter what you do.  :lol:



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Majestic Jazz

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LOL


Am I wrong?

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MrObnoxiousUK

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Well if you get caressing and stroking, i want the ability to fart, roll over and go to sleep straight after the fact.


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I have to agree with this post completely. DA:I this is not anything close to sex scene. I hope with a new mocap technology and facial animation they will be better. The animations in the MA Andromeda was very liquid and nice to watch. 



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Well if you get caressing and stroking, i want the ability to fart, roll over and go to sleep straight after the fact.

To early to ask for a joint after the deed's done?



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Point is that sex scenes are common in movies that are rated R (intended for adults) and it is normal. Yet when it is in a M rated videogame it is considered childish and perverted.


There are some key differences between movies and videogames, including:

-- In a movie, you're passively watching other characters. In a videogame cutscene, you're watching a character over which you expect to have some degree of control. For many people, that makes gaming a much more personal experience.

-- Anytime a videogame PC says or does anything in a cutscene, you run the risk of their behavior feeling OOC / breaking immersion for the player. Players expect consistent behavior from the PC, and often have very specific ideas about how their character would behave.

-- The more emotive a scene becomes, the more likely it is that some players are going to be extremely unhappy with it. Have you seen all the complaints about Shepard's behavior post-Thessia?

-- Making a sex scene in a movie involves these steps:
-Writing the script
-Designing, building, dressing, lighting the set
-Makeup, wardrobe for the actors
-Bringing in the actors and crew to film it
-Filming it
-Editing it

-- Making a sex scene in a videogame involves these steps:
-Writing the script
-Designing, building, dressing, lighting the level in which it will occur
-Creating meshes and behaviors for every 3D object in the scene in every state it will appear. A bed needs to be semi-soft and spongy and form a depression when weight is applied. If the physics don't work, it looks really bad
-Creating textures, shaders, lighting for every 3D object in the scene
-Creating / assembling animations needed for the scene. Every blink, every kiss and caress, every sigh, must be painstakingly programmed, aligned, and set in 3D space to avoid clipping for any body model(s) that may be used for the scene
-Recording any lines of dialogue needed and syncing facial animations with them
-Editing, adjusting, editing, adjusting, until the results are satisfactory
-Rendering it

In short, it's a crapton of work for optional content most people will never see.

If people feel it's "childish and perverted", perhaps it is because they would rather those resources be used to provide things like better overall facial animations, better / more combat animations, and other things that would benefit the entire game instead of focusing so much resource on sex scenes.

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Hanako Ikezawa

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No it doesn't. It's perfectly possible for Geralt to end up single in TW3. Just don't tell either woman that you love her, it's that simple.

Not what I meant. The games decided "Hey, Geralt liked these two women enough to have sex with them." Even starting the last two games hitting you over the head with this fact, something CDPR admits. I'm not a fan of that. 



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Majestic Jazz

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There are some key differences between movies and videogames, including:

-- In a movie, you're passively watching other characters. In a videogame cutscene, you're watching a character over which you expect to have some degree of control. For many people, that makes gaming a much more personal experience.

-- Anytime a videogame PC says or does anything in a cutscene, you run the risk of their behavior feeling OOC / breaking immersion for the player. Players expect consistent behavior from the PC, and often have very specific ideas about how their character would behave.

-- The more emotive a scene becomes, the more likely it is that some players are going to be extremely unhappy with it. Have you seen all the complaints about Shepard's behavior post-Thessia?

-- Making a sex scene in a movie involves these steps:
-Writing the script
-Designing, building, dressing, lighting the set
-Makeup, wardrobe for the actors
-Bringing in the actors and crew to film it
-Filming it
-Editing it

-- Making a sex scene in a videogame involves these steps:
-Writing the script
-Designing, building, dressing, lighting the level in which it will occur
-Creating meshes and behaviors for every 3D object in the scene in every state it will appear. A bed needs to be semi-soft and spongy and form a depression when weight is applied. If the physics don't work, it looks really bad
-Creating textures, shaders, lighting for every 3D object in the scene
-Creating / assembling animations needed for the scene. Every blink, every kiss and caress, every sigh, must be painstakingly programmed, aligned, and set in 3D space to avoid clipping for any body model(s) that may be used for the scene
-Recording any lines of dialogue needed and syncing facial animations with them
-Editing, adjusting, editing, adjusting, until the results are satisfactory
-Rendering it

In short, it's a crapton of work for optional content most people will never see.

If people feel it's "childish and perverted", perhaps it is because they would rather those resources be used to provide things like better overall facial animations, better / more combat animations, and other things that would benefit the entire game instead of focusing so much resource on sex scenes.


No need to get all academic. People dont hate videogame sex because of resources, they are just too sensitive to see two videogame characters be sexual.

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Hm. I read this thread title as, "Can Bioware show kissing and crossdressing during sex scenes". I'm kind of disappointed... 



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Bsn is obsessed with romances.


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Incantrix

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Bsn is obsessed with romances.

You just figured that out??
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I have to agree with this post completely. DA:I this is not anything close to sex scene. I hope with a new mocap technology and facial animation they will be better. The animations in the MA Andromeda was very liquid and nice to watch. 

 

 

You haven't seen any ME:A animations, DA:I is our closest guess on ME:A.



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stysiaq

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Bsn is obsessed with romances.

 

That's because Bio makes it harder for me to be obsessed with the story with each game.


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... "Hey, Geralt liked these two women enough to have sex with them." ...

 

Geralt really isn't that picky - you get a craptonne of possibilities in the original Witcher each with their own "conquest" card (gotta catch 'em all)... and even when you've decided on Shani/Triss you can still shag around to collect those cards you haven't got... or just for the hell of it with hookers.

 

Actually, in the Witcher 3, brothels are basically just a way to convert coin into XP - spend 100 Orens in a brothel, get 100 experience.



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I think sex is for reality not for games, novels, cinema, or other forms of interactive or entertainment media.


Technically porn is "entertainment media" soooo....

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yeah I thought a lot of the Liara scenes had a fair bit o kissing and caressing scnes too. So it clearly does happen in the games