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[The_Shade]

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Thus far, I've seriously enjoyed the clashes that Dragon Age protagonists have had with The Forbidden ones (especially Gaxkang) who turned out to be a real challenge (at least for me).  

 

I am very interested in this Formless One in particular. I not quite sure what to expect. By the name, one could deduce that the demon will be without form. Although, that could mean a myriad of things and would allow Bioware to be extremely creative on what type of demon they decide to produce I assume in Dragon Age 4. Without a true physical form, could one even defeat such a demon? 

 

Furthermore, I'd personally like to see this Formless One take a more central role as a major Dragon Age character. Not necessarily the main antagonist but a more significant role of some sort since it is the last of the Forbidden Ones and (probably) the most powerful. Perhaps The Formless One befriends you as a companion we may already know and uses you to defeat a certain enemy before revealing their true identity and betraying you part way through the main plot. Or is a near unstoppable force that has power beyond that of even the Elven Gods perhaps explaining why a certain someone wanted the Orb before giving it to the Elder One. Maybe The Formless One isn't even 'evil'. 

 

Whatever the case, I remain excited about the numerous possibilities and directions Bioware could go with such a being and I'm eager to see what they come up with.

 

 

 

 

 

   

[Andraste_Reborn]

I'd love to see the Formless One have a big role in DA4, especially since Imshael turned out to be a bit of a disappointment. He got more build-up and personality than Gaxkang or Xebenkeck, and he's an entertaining character, but he's so easy to kill compared to the previous forbidden ones.

 

(I mean, Gaxkang and Xebenkeck can both be taken out easily enough once you remember that Magebane exists and figure out that you can kite Xebenkeck out of the room away from her many, many friends, but at least it took time to develop a strategy against them. I dealt with Imshael on the first try without any reloading.)

[myahele]

after what they did to imshael i have no hopes for the formless one contributing to the plot in a major way

[coldwetn0se]

Xebenkeck, based on how I played, wasn't particularly difficult. The problem was all the "adds" it summoned. DAMN! I could usually take out Xeb quickly (not much different than taking down just about any desire demon, in DA2), but with so many other demons pulled in to the fight - and in such tight quarters - it was a bit of a pain.

Gaxkang kicked my patooty, the first time through DAO. I had no idea what the hell was going on. Well played, you sneaky little god-tiered demon.

I really was hoping for more with Imshael, but I was glad we got to have some dialogue with it. That was something that was missing with Xebenkeck. But Imshael was pretty much a push over (especially if you got the respawning "juiced up" giants, on the way to meet the "Choice Spirit"). I tad underwhelming. but still amusing to converse with.

I too look forward to something memorable with the Formless One. Fingers crossed.

[Dai Grepher]

I thought Flemeth could have been the Formless One, and I imagine the Formless One being a shapeshifter. Now that I've played Inquisition, it might be an envy demon.

 

I think the Nightmare would have made a good candidate for being the Formless One, but I don't think they are the same.

 

I think it would be interesting to have the Formless One as the next main character. That way the Formless One can take any custom form the players make, and also change appearance if required to by game mechanics or plot demands.

 

In any case, I think the Formless One is the wisest of the four. You can tell its name is just an alias, like "The Elder One" was for Corypheus. The others all have their names known. Connor said the desire demon told him that names have power, which is why she didn't want to say hers. So maybe the Formless One knows that. Or maybe it never came up with a name because it's formless and can't think of one. Again, sounds a lot like an envy demon.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Given that all three of the Forbidden Ones have turned out to be nothing more than creepy but minor optional sidequests, I wouldn't bet on the Formless One being any different.

[Dabrikishaw]

The Forbidden Ones have all been bonus bosses so far. I don't expect that to change in the next game.

[The_Shade]

Given that all three of the Forbidden Ones have turned out to be nothing more than creepy but minor optional sidequests, I wouldn't bet on the Formless One being any different.

 

Well, I hope you're wrong. It would be an opportunity missed for Bioware. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they did decide to go down that road especially after Imshael turned out to be a disappointment for me and others it seems. 

[The_Shade]

I thought Flemeth could have been the Formless One, and I imagine the Formless One being a shapeshifter. Now that I've played Inquisition, it might be an envy demon.

 

I think the Nightmare would have made a good candidate for being the Formless One, but I don't think they are the same.

 

I think it would be interesting to have the Formless One as the next main character. That way the Formless One can take any custom form the players make, and also change appearance if required to by game mechanics or plot demands.

 

In any case, I think the Formless One is the wisest of the four. You can tell its name is just an alias, like "The Elder One" was for Corypheus. The others all have their names known. Connor said the desire demon told him that names have power, which is why she didn't want to say hers. So maybe the Formless One knows that. Or maybe it never came up with a name because it's formless and can't think of one. Again, sounds a lot like an envy demon.

 

Yeah I concur, the Formless One and Nightmare differ. The notion that a character within the DA universe we are already acquainted is the Formless One uncover does intrigue me very much. 

[AresKeith]

I hope it plays a bigger role, I didn't like how they were random side missions in the past

 

Imshael definitely should've had a bigger role in DAI

[Dai Grepher]

I like that we can fight them if we want to. You can't say the same for most of the other ancient beings. Or you don't know they are ancient beings when you fight them, like Flemeth carrying Mythal. So basically, just Corypheus, possibly the Architect, and the archdemon are the only ancient beings we fought. None of the old elvhen "gods", just some ghosts in Cadash.

 

I think there is something big being planned with them. Each protagonist can possibly fight one. The next installment will have a new character, and if he or she faces the Formless One, then it will have been 4 player characters against the 4 Fobidden Ones. Then what? Possibly all 4 characters in one party against all 4 of the Forbidden Ones? Epic!

[Andromelek]

I think the Formless One is mentioned by Solas, he says once he met a powerful demon, but when he asked what he was, the demon said it has been forgotten a demon with no defined purpose would perfectly fit with that name.

[Caddius]

I think the Formless One is mentioned by Solas, he says once he met a powerful demon, but when he asked what he was, the demon said it has been forgotten a demon with no defined purpose would perfectly fit with that name.

I think it was a spirit who had once ruled a huge chunk of the Fade (Or Thedas, it was a little unclear) and when he asked for its name, the spirit seemed troubled and told him, "There is no word for what I was. They have forgotten." Perhaps it is the Formless One demon when someone who has preconceptions Solas lacks approaches it, however.

The Forbidden Ones are rather important to the bigger Dragon Age story going on. There's got to be a reason they're attributed with teaching mages blood magic, along with Dumat and the Old God crew. There's a bit of a theme of uncovering the truth behind simplified legend. I hope the Formless One has the impressive boss fight of Gaxkang, the back-up like Xebenbeck, and the banter of Imshael. (Imshael was much more impressive and creepy in The Masked Empire than he came across in Inquisition, sadly.)

[Dai Grepher]

I think if Imshael had more sequences to his fight, he would have been a lot more interesting. For one thing, he uses hexes in the book. So why couldn't he have used abilities that make the characters weak and vulnerable to certain elements? Also, it would have been cool if he stayed as a mage for part of the battle, then drew everyone into the Fade for the rest of it where he would fight in his demon form. Just that simple change of scenery would have made the fight interesting. Another ability he could have used is marking the floors with glyphs. Perhaps even ones that move around. This would require constant dispelling from the mages in the party or Cassandra or a templar Inquisitor.

 

I hope the Formless One, if fought against, will require a great deal of effort to defeat. Such as going into the Fade and fighting it in multiple forms inside its own Fade world. Sort of like the Sloth Demon in Origins, only this world will be completely of the Formless One's influence with all sorts of puzzles, traps, obstacles, terrain, and enemies to overcome.

[esper]

The interesting thing is that Ismhael is the only one with a tile in the Keep, meaning that both Gaxgang and Xebenbeck fates is up in the air.

 

(At least Ismahael was the only one with a tile when I checked.)

[Frocharocha]

after what they did to imshael i have no hopes for the formless one contributing to the plot in a major way

He was kinda important in the books.

 

But demons are demons, unless the Formless One is different from a regular Demon, he will just be a regular boss.

 

They should make him a party member.

[Andreas Amell]

I've hoped that the Formless One would be used if Bioware ever decides to continue Hawke's adventures in Kirkwall. Discovering that it sits on top of a giant blood ritual for the Formless One would be a great way to end that saga. 

[The Ascendant]

What if we are the Formless One in the next game? We sensed the impending cataclysm that Solas would unleash, took a mortal form and brought ourselves into Thedas. We wiped our memories and have to piece them back together to further the story.

[Dai Grepher]

I think it would be interesting to have the Formless One as the next main character. That way the Formless One can take any custom form the players make, and also change appearance if required to by game mechanics or plot demands.

What if we are the Formless One in the next game? We sensed the impending cataclysm that Solas would unleash, took a mortal form and brought ourselves into Thedas. We wiped our memories and have to piece them back together to further the story.

It would be interesting, but I think I would rather fight the Formless One than be it. This would complete the tradition of having the main characters possibly fight each Forbidden One. It could even set up an additional plot where all four protags join the same party to fight all four Forbidden Ones in the Fade.

DA4 could even have a plot where the Formless One is psychologically tormenting the player character, showing him/her visions and such. Warping perception of reality to further its own goals. Then the player finally confronts it after learning more about it and its influence. Maybe the (ex)Inquisitor plays a part in helping the player.

[thats1evildude]

What's interesting is that during the fight with Imshael, he calls out to Xebenkeck and Gaxkhang but NOT the Formless One. There could be any number of reasons for this — maybe it was destroyed or trapped, maybe it prefers to go by another name, or maybe it just didn't get along with the others. Perhaps the Formless One is the token good member of their little dance troupe?

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Plot twist:- The Formless One is the playable protagonist in all the games. That would explain how they we as players could have so many choices when it comes to race, sex and class selection (except for DA2), its because protagonist is formless.

[Captain Wiseass]

At the very least, we'll probably get to hunt and kill it. And the quest might give some answers as to what their general deal is. The Forbidden Ones were originally banished by the Evanuris, so maybe that'll figure into it.

[Merengues 1945]

At the very least, we'll probably get to hunt and kill it. And the quest might give some answers as to what their general deal is. The Forbidden Ones were originally banished by the Evanuris, so maybe that'll figure into it.

 

There's one Evanuris lurking around in thedas with the plan of bringing back the rest of the crew; maybe the formless one will be the rock in Solas' sole. Getting revenge on those guys once and for all.

 

What if we are the Formless One in the next game? We sensed the impending cataclysm that Solas would unleash, took a mortal form and brought ourselves into Thedas. We wiped our memories and have to piece them back together to further the story.

 

After Darth Revan, this plotline was burned. I really don't want to see it again, because in KOTOR worked just perfectly.

 

I think if Imshael had more sequences to his fight, he would have been a lot more interesting. For one thing, he uses hexes in the book. So why couldn't he have used abilities that make the characters weak and vulnerable to certain elements? Also, it would have been cool if he stayed as a mage for part of the battle, then drew everyone into the Fade for the rest of it where he would fight in his demon form. Just that simple change of scenery would have made the fight interesting. Another ability he could have used is marking the floors with glyphs. Perhaps even ones that move around. This would require constant dispelling from the mages in the party or Cassandra or a templar Inquisitor.

 

Well, blame the game devs for it, since they were the ones to remove the hexes and the entire Entropy school from the game. It was really cool to use the death hex alongside the misdirection and vulnerability ones on Loghain. Or when using mana clash, which was the easiest way to dispatch Gaxkang. Although it was also annoying when it happened to you... The fight with Imshael suffered from the same as all the fights in Inquisition; it was limited by the button-bashing nature of them and the less ammount of variations that foes had. It would have been much better if he fought as an Arcane Horror, since in nightmare they are the only really though foes with that terrible beam of spirit damage they unleashed... The glypsh wouldn't have helped at all I think since potentially all four party members can dispel or fight from afar. Maybe add some archers with good skills like the annoying Avvar archers that can get you easier than a dragon.

 

I think the Formless One is mentioned by Solas, he says once he met a powerful demon, but when he asked what he was, the demon said it has been forgotten a demon with no defined purpose would perfectly fit with that name.

 

Or maybe it was the embodiment of some emotion that only the ancients had... Although I have the notion that Solas is the formless one, after all he is a rift mage, the spells of that tree are described to have some relation with the void, which was where the Forbidden Ones were banished, but maybe it was the forbidden ones who banished the Evanuris.

[The Ascendant]

Yeah he/she/it will be either another bonus boss or perhaps a companion. We need another Eldritch horror to help explain the weird things that will inevitably happen to us.