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[helpthisguyplease]

 He is not the strongest, that honor comes to the Inquisitor he not even the second strongest but unlike the other protagonists he is the most badass because he was not blessed with a godlike power like the Inquisitor or had personal trainers like the inquisitor or the warden. He is a normal human that learns from experience and yet he can kill a dragon or a ancient darkspawn magister, who with litle with no resources became a noble and a rich person then became a champion of a whole city by killing the strongest qunary warrior, all of that without incredible godlike power or training from experience warrior, rogues and mages.

  What do you all think?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Who is strongest out of protagonists is debatable and always will be , inquisitor doesn't have godlike power by any means all he can do is open rift or close it what served only as far in combat twice and far from godlike ,first it was distraction (what was double-edged sword) second as finishing move for already defated corypheus.

 

As for trainers you mean specialization trainers? Well the warden didn't have to learn from them could do that from books and inquisitor didn't have to take specialization as well the warden ,and we don't know how hawke have learned specialization in first place. If you mean that the warden and inquisitor had people that trained them same goes for hawke as he was trained by his father.

 

Feats you described pretty much could have been done by the warden or inquisitor both killed dragons , the warden could have defeat current arishok in single combat and inquisitor defeated corypheus in normal combat not with any godlike powers.

 

So things like who is strongest or most badass among them always will be up to debate. 

[Augustei]

 He is not the strongest that honor comes to the Inquisitor he not even the second strongest but unlike the other protagonists he is the most badass because he was not blessed with a godlike power like the Inquisitor or had personal trainers like the inquisitor or the warden. He is a normal human that learns from experience and yet he can kill a dragon or a ancient darkspawn magister who with litle with no resources became a noble and a rich person who became a champion of a whole city by killing the strongest qunary warrior all of that without incredible godlike power or training from experience warrior, rogues and mages.

  What do you all think?

Hawke is very good in killing, essentially a killing machine that is true. But is also a lazy idiot which disqualifies him from the title of badass.
"Want to cause a war with the Qunari Petrice? Eh I cbf stopping you"
"Want to take that list of Qunari Spies so nobody can find out who they are tallis? Eh I cbf stopping you"
"Want to take my sister to the circle despite my clear dislike of this and my family trying to avoid exactly that for the past 18 years? Eh I cbf stopping you"
"Meredith taking all power in Kirkwall and blocking the new election of A Viscount so she can put a puppet on the throne? Eh I may say something about that in 3 years, but cbf doing anything other than saying a few words"
"Guy just walked past me with the tome of Koslun, The very reason the Qunari are here and the sole thing we came to this warehouse for? Eh I cbf going after him, I have Tevinters and Qunari to kill while they're killing each other"
No badass here

[lynroy]

I personally find Hawke to be the least bad ass of all the protagonists. S/He was just there.

[EmissaryofLies]

Definitely my favorite because she is not owned by an organization and is her own master. She's a charismatic leader with the guard in her pocket and she gets sh!t done. She does not need Leliana to go out and do her dirty work, and she does not need to be a warden to justify her cruelties. Hawke simply... is.

[helpthisguyplease]

 Well think about this no organization backed Hawke none whatsoever but the Warden was backed by a lot of organizations from the mage or templars to the Dalish elves to about 2 whole kingdoms so he could manage to do the awesome feats he did.

  The Inquisitor had a lot of backing also from the templars or mages to a entire empire he learned from the best of the best and something people forget he had armies behind him whenever he went on a quest how do you all think those camps got built so fast. The exception is only in the quest where you finish the civil war.

   Hawke had none of that he only had his skills and his friends and yes powerful friends but not a army.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 Well think about this no organization backed Hawke none whatsoever but the Warden was backed by a lot of organizations from the mage or templars to the Dalish elves to about 2 whole kingdoms so he could manage to do the awesome feats he did.

  The Inquisitor had a lot of backing also from the templars or mages to a entire empire he learned from the best of the best and something people forget he had armies behind him whenever he went on a quest how do you all think those camps got built so fast. The exception is only in the quest where you finish the civil war.

   Hawke had none of that he only had his skills and his friends and yes powerful friends but not a army.

Warden had none of that until last battle and Orzammar is city .Hawke also had "support" of many factions for an example kirkwall forces + templars and circle supported him when qunari attacked kirkwall , and either circle or templars on his side in final battle.

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

Hawke is my favourite, so I'm bias. Yes most badass of course.
 
Beyond that though, Hawke is a very interesting character for me, because despite trying to be somewhat normal, killing everything in her path was all she was really ever good at. Because that's how the game mechanics work. She was a conflict of 'want' and 'is'. Fate wouldn't have her anything but a murderous badass, no matter how hard she tried.
 
The Inquisitor and particularly the Warden struck me as really rather whiny. Inquisitor less so, and Warden shaped up later game. Hawke however came across as more of a normal person saddled with everyone's problems--relatable I suppose--because she cared, she had to deal. Slave to good intentions, but wore her palm on her face.

[TK514]

Hawke is definitely my favorite, and on a scale of 1 to Murder Machine was somewhere around "Made Death Crap Her Pants".

[Colonelkillabee]

I personally find Hawke to be the least bad ass of all the protagonists. S/He was just there.

Same, though at least they redeemed the character with this game, made him/her less ugh.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Hawke's alright I suppose, most of his friends though were just the worst people ever. 

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I honestly don't see Hawke as the hero or the chosen one that's set to save the world type of character at one bits, as lynroy mentioned he/she was just there, and I think at the wrong place and wrong time or got dragged into things he/she never wanted to get involved. I think Hawke is definitely very good at killing, but so does the Warden and the Inquisitor.

[duckley]

Nope - none of the protagonists in DA seem very badass to me....

[TastesLikeTNT]

Hawke is pretty badass. S/he was handed a platter full of garbage s/he didn't want to deal with for years and years and still rose to the occasion and dealt with it to the best of their ability. The same could be said of the Inquisitor and the Warden, though.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

I honestly don't see Hawke as the hero or the chosen one that's set to save the world type of character at one bits

 

That was actually something I found compelling about his/her character, and fully embraced with my canon, killer FemHawke.

 

People criticize her for not fixing things. Truth is, her job was to kill fools and/or tear things down, and leave the fixing to others.

[Reznore57]

Hawke was badass , perfect anti hero.No greater agenda , just keep on getting in trouble and try to make the best out of it.

 

I'm biased because it's the kind of character I enjoy playing very much .

[Qun00]

Who is strongest out of protagonists is debatable and always will be , inquisitor doesn't have godlike power by any means all he can do is open rift or close it what served only as far in combat twice and far from godlike ,first it was distraction (what was double-edged sword) second as finishing move for already defated corypheus.

And walking physically in the Fade, a feat only ever performed by the magisters who entered the Golden City.

That already puts the Inquisitor on a different level.

[TheKomandorShepard]

And walking physically in the Fade, a feat only ever performed by the magisters who entered the Golden City.

That already puts the Inquisitor on a different level.

Not rly ,as far it goes all it gives inquisitor is nice and interesting stroll while being attacked by demons (and judging by last visit it is one-way trip) .   

[Qun00]

Not rly ,as far it goes all it gives inquisitor is nice and interesting stroll while being attacked by demons (and judging by last visit it is one-way trip) .

Whether you can use the ability to kill things and look cool is irrelevant.

It's the fact that you can.

Not necessarily. There's always the option to follow Solas' example and befriend a few spirits in the Fade. After all, it was one of them who showed you the way out.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Whether you can use the ability to kill things and look cool is irrelevant.

It's the fact that you can.

Not necessarily. There's always the option to follow Solas' example and befriend a few spirits in the Fade. After all, it was one of them who showed you the way out.

It is relevant as it didn't make inquisitor stronger or more powerful it just gave him ability to do something close or open rifts it may be useful under certain circumstances (like those in inquisition) ,but it for certain isn't godlike power.

 

Pretty much you can compare it to the wardens ability to sense darkspawn useful ability but overall it doesn't make you any stronger or more powerful ,thus you can't rly say the warden is on completely on different level than hawke or inquisitor just because they can't sense darkspawn.

 

 

 

 

 

[Qun00]

It is relevant as it didn't make inquisitor stronger or more powerful it just gave him ability to do something close or open rifts it may be useful under certain circumstances (like those in inquisition) ,but it for certain isn't godlike power.

Pretty much you can compare it to the wardens ability to sense darkspawn useful ability but overall it doesn't make you any stronger or more powerful ,thus you can't rly say the warden is on completely on different level than hawke or inquisitor just because they can't sense darkspawn.

Godlike power isn't limited to combat.

As for the grey warden comparison my point isn't about it being unique, but the fact that it's a feat considered impossible by all and only ever done in ancient legend.

Dorian seems to agree with me on that.

Anyhow, this is going in circles. I've said my piece.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Godlike power isn't limited to combat.

As for the grey warden comparison.my point isn't about it being unique, but the fact that it's a feat considered impossible by all and only ever done in ancient legend.

Anyhow, this is going in circles. I've said my piece.

It is one way or another ,as god-like power deems individual way superior than others .unless we talk about about other indvidual with god-like powers.Just because others consider that it is impossible (what is false as series proved it can be done even by normal mages ,not to mention other ways like eluvians). It may be impossible for human to jump 30 m and yet such ability isn't by any mean god-like.  

 

Practically what you are talking about are supernatural powers ,and while god-like powers are pretty much are supernatural powers not every supernatural power is god-like ,only those on higher spectrum of power are god-like.

[AlexiaRevan]

Hawke had a sense of humour , that in my book make you badass 

[Carmen_Willow]

Don't know that she's (and I usually play Hawke as a woman) the most badass, but I admire her. She doesn't start life as the daughter of a king or noble, she's either an apostate hiding from authority or she's protecting one. She isn't given the chance to join some larger than herself organization, she and her little band of kin and fellow refugees are out there on their own, without resources, without a governmental body backing her and her cohorts. The scrabble their way from the mean streets of Kirkwall to a position of power and authority that her mother may have dreamed of but her father never did. In all, she has one goal:

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to try and protect her family, and in this, if she's lucky, she gets to walk away with one family member left, if she's not, she's an orphan.

. But does she give up? No. She finds a reason to continue, she struggles on for her band of brothers/sisters and the city she calls home.

 

Does she save the world? No, in fact she may help cause it more trouble. Does she do this because she's evil? Not in my universe, it all happens because she's trying to do right by her family and friends. Life keeps knocking this woman down and she just keeps on standing up. I think of the three, she is the most complex and interesting sort of ordinary (at least by Thedas standards) human being.

 

She may not be the most badass, but she is the least boring of the three, and I wouldn't have said that when I first started playing DA:II, but I do say it now.