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#51
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Blue ending: Reaper!Shep repairs the Citadel. Plus it is not really that badly damaged.

Green Ending: See Blue ending but without Shepard

Red Ending: Citadel is in 3-4 major pieces, but according to the ending slides, it is quote "Easily repaired".

 

If you sit through the endings, you know this. 

 

Fair enough. I've sat through the red ending precisely twice, and the last time was whenever the EC came out - three years ago?



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Fair enough. I've sat through the red ending precisely twice, and the last time was whenever the EC came out - three years ago?

 

No worries. I kind of suspected you hadn't studied the EC.  :)



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Batarians are the most anomiable slavers in existence. There is nothing redeeming at all about their culture other than the possibility that some portion of their population weren't absolutely irredeemable and monstrous slavers. Their continued existence is about the only mercy that race exists. It's ridiculous the extent to which they're an always chaotic evil race. Even the drow in D&D are better

 

This.



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You know, it's funny you bring that up.

 

Thing most people forget about drow, including most writers employed by Wizards of the Coast, is that the drow weren't intended to be universally evil. The aristocracy of the drow is evil to the core, but the bulk of their population, the commoners, were more neutral aligned, and were essentially slaves to the greater system. If you found yourself in a drow city, knew the language, and had any kind of diplomacy skill, you'd generally be able to count on drow commoners to help you out because they hated the evil upper class more than you did. 

 

I honestly get the same impression from the batarians. As a whole, they aren't so much evil as they are brainwashed, living under the heel of an evil government. We just have the misfortune of dealing with the worst of them throughout the series. And yes, they practice slavery. And slavery is evil. Several human cultures throughout history have practiced slavery; that doesn't mean that every single person, or even most of them, belonging to those cultures were evil.

 

At any rate, I don't think we get to see enough of actual batarian culture to make sweeping moral judgments against the whole of the species. There are enough hints that they're as much victims of the hegemony as anyone else to cast doubts on the claim that they're all horrible people.

A thousand likes upon you.

Please bring the Batarians back. Actually flesh them out this time, Bioware devs.

 

 

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Geth (in a non-villainous role) and the Quarians as well (depending on circumstances, of course).


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I'm bitter that we never got to party on Thessia. I mean come on Bioware!


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From what I remember, it seems pretty accurate.
 

 
On the other hand, I really hope it's not so human centric. Whatever this Pathfinder Initiative ends up being, I hope that all the council races have a hand in it as equal partners, along with other non-council races like the Quarians. I'm much more interested in finding a new place to rebuild in concert with them as opposed to being another special human.


This is one of the main reasons I didn't want to be human the whole human superiority thing really annoys me in games.
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I'm bitter that we never got to party on Thessia. I mean come on Bioware!

 or Palaven.....or Sur'Kesh.


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I'm bitter that we never got to party on Thessia. I mean come on Bioware!

What are you talking about? Reapers brought the party to Thessia. Everyone was in on it. :wizard:



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What are you talking about? Reapers brought the party to Thessia. Everyone was in on it. :wizard:

 

That's not what I meant.



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What are you talking about? Reapers brought the party to Thessia. Everyone was in on it. :wizard:

 That was no party. Just a track meet in the parking lot.



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That's not what I meant.


Cerberus did send Shepard a ballerina in the temple. Does that count?
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If the Asari (I'm assuming they were predominantly behind it) built an ark, then the following species are pretty much guaranteed a seat:

Humans, turians, asari (duh), salarians. Volus as well, most likely. Probably the Elcor too.

The Batarians and all non-Citadel affiliated species are pretty much guaranteed to be left out. Unfortunately that means the Quarians too, probably. The Drell have living requirements that are too complicated. The Hanar...they will probably be taken for comic relief alone, lets be honest.

 

I'm hoping all the familiar Milky Way species make the trip as well, but I agree with you about the Big Four (Turians, Asari, Salarians and Humans) being safe bets.

 

If the leak details are legit the Krogan make at as well, since according to that one of the squadmates is a Krogan named Drack.


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It seemed more to me that Humanity was the galaxy's master race and that everyone else was a little worried that we were in the process of renaming the galaxy The Human Way. Within 30 years of First Contact, Humanity is everywhere in the galaxy. We're already innovating on the dominant technology that seems to have remained more or less static in the hands of the other races; we're in the hunt (as the story starts) for SPECTRE membership and Council membership, although other sentient races aren't being considered despite being around for centuries. (Oh, and we actually had a SPECTRE recruit years before Shepard showed up, and he only failed because of subterfuge on the part of a sitting SPECTRE.)

We're described as "bullies" rushing to get what we want and shouldering aside anyone who gets in the way. Even without considering that our species produced Shepard, we were still moving ahead at a ridiculous pace. Maybe it's just time for us to go dominate another 250 billion star systems.

 

Hey can't help but be what we are, it's no surprise the aliens keep abducting people from our planet, it's cause they hate us cause they ain't us. :) j/k. 

 

With all the fictional stories about humanity being attacked by aliens repeatedly and them being superior in a killing sense to the point something like the creatures from Alien's can wipe out our best soldiers like nothing, it was nice to see a universe where humanity as a species is not only aggressive in terms of the galactic stage, but was shown to be the best suited all-around race over all, I thought that was awesome. I think it was harbingers analysis of the other races and humanity and why humanity was fit for the "Ascendance" that was Reaper molding that made the trilogy and battling against it so much more meaningful. I would not have cared nearly as much about relaying the other races and saving the Batarians knowing their history not only with humanity but with the Galactic Community as a whole. Just about every prominent race in the game kicked dirt in the face of humanity at some point or another, Salarians considered using humans as test subjects because of their wide range genetic diversity, (which makes it sound as if most other races were inferior), Turians were the first contact race humanity met and they were hostile towards us and still aren't exactly our besties. Batarians largely raided, human colonizes, and have more than a few times clashed with humanities Alliance forces either because of pirating or trading in humans. Also what's so wrong with humanity wanting more say in galactic affairs, as I recall a lot of the sitting council races were self lifted in that they discovered Mass Relays, the Citadel and the technology therein on their own, human is similar in that it wasn't "uplifted" like the Krogan, or Drell. 

 

And of course we'd be called "bullies" though no history of hostile attacks on other races is documented, in fact its kind of like the exact opposite.