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[Lady Artifice]

I don't think anyone would complain about anything if we had 2 romances for each preference, or maybe 3. But it's easy to see how one group getting two extra romances while the rest doesn't would be really unfair. Woman complained how the ME3 romances were unfair for femshep, and they were completely right about that. So they could have the courtesy to accept the complaint that men are getting the short end of the stick here (as homosexual people are, for the matter). But it's especially jarring how one of the romances is even denied something as basic as an sex scene. So in the end straight man and lesbian woman were particularly screwed by Bioware in this game when it came to romance

 

Most of us do accept that complaint. If I see a straight female poster repudiate a straight male complaining about the amount of options to their taste, it's usually just to point out that they aren't alone in the numbers game. 

 

Or to just point out that it isn't as dramatic an advantage as some make it out to be, considering the race gating of the two extra romances. 

 

Anyway, I sympathize with the perspective that Josephine and Cassandra are both pretty straight laced characters, both Andrastian and very pro chantry, and both of them have arcs that are pretty heavy on iconic romance. In both cases, you have to pretty much do all the wooing, in contrast with previous female LIs in this series who have been more likely to meet the PC halfway. 

 

I sympathize a little less when comparisons to the options for other demographics start being drawn, because it's a little unbecoming when straight males have so little awareness of how far and how completely scales have been tipped in their favor throughout history. Often, the response to accusations of a sense of excessive privilege is to dismiss, ignore, or to actually argue that as a majority force in the gaming community, privilege is their due. In these cases, I completely get the eye roll gifs. 

[Lady Artifice]

And I am tired of hypocrasy Go to topic "gay knight in shining armour" and look at it if someone made "straight female in shining armour", and post sexy photos of female everyone would go nuts. But it's totally fine to post something like this.

Spoiler

and comments like "10/10 would bang" well oh it's just man and he is gay so it's fine.

I'm going to agree with Malthier that you seem to be imagining hypocrisy. I can promise you that the exact same people who made admiring comments about that gentlemen would be supportive of photos of gorgeous and sensual women, even if they aren't personally attracted to her.

You should put NSFW because butthurt people will come.

This is a perfect example. I think you're perceiving a potential outrage in people who are actually just as likely be cool with the subject matter as you are.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I'm going to agree with Malthier that you seem to be imagining hypocrisy. I can promise you that the exact same people who made admiring comments about that gentlemen would be supportive of photos of gorgeous and sensual women, even if they aren't personally attracted to her. 

 

I am confidant that if someone posted a picture of a hot female body-builder to the gay KISA thread and said they wanted a future character that was like her, the reaction would be enthusiasm and agreement. Especially if the .gif was otherwise equivilent - i.e. said female body-builder was fully clothed.

 

(After all, while the thread is easily distracted by attractive buff dudes, it is also the place to discuss potential lesbian KISAs.)

[Lady Artifice]

I am confidant that if someone posted a picture of a hot female body-builder to the gay KISA thread and said they wanted a future character that was like her, the reaction would be enthusiasm and agreement. Especially if the .gif was otherwise equivilent - i.e. said female body-builder was fully clothed.

 

(After all, while the thread is easily distracted by attractive buff dudes, it is also the place to discuss potential lesbian KISAs.)

 

Or bisexual, for that matter. 

[TheOgre]

That's a thing I was confused about on the KISA thread, are they against Bi?

[Grieving Natashina]

That's a thing I was confused about on the KISA thread, are they against Bi?

I was just around to update my status when I saw your post.

 

The answer is no.  Several people, including myself, have requested a bisexual lady or gentleman as a knight in shining armor.  While a gay man is preferred, they are open to ideas.  The reason a gay man is preferred is because there isn't many gay men in media that are the taking most of the hits.  The sword and shield warriors, protector-types.  So far in DA, among the non-hetero men, we've had two rogues, two mages, and two warriors that are two handed wielders.  Granted, you could take Bull and make him into a tank, but I found through experimentation that he's really best as a Reaver.

 

However, for that matter, there hasn't been any non-hetero lady warriors either.  So that's why the idea is open to for gay, bisexual and/or lesbian knights.  The regulars in that thread are asking for one for the next game.  They know that they are likely to get only one of those ideas for the next game (if they get one at all) but it's still thoughts for the future.  The OP, dave and others prefer a gay man, but are all about hearing new ideas.  

 

Back to my break from my computer.  After fighting with it last week, I'm taking a few days away.  

[TheOgre]

I moved a bit out of the feedback section and into the offtopic area.. Some of the posts there, whew..

 

Turning into a white knight when I thought I was a filthy ogre.

 

@ Nat, I'm out of likes :/ Bioware is mean with their allowances being so slim.

[Teddie Sage]

Just torrent some porn. Problem solved.
No seriously, we don't always need nudity to enjoy a romance in video games.

[daveliam]

Complaints about the KISA are usually made by people who have only been in there to cherry pick out-of-context statements in order to make it appear like a hypocritical thread.  Anyone who spends any significant time in there will see that the thread has really become the catch all thread for LGBT characters in general, while the emphasis lies mostly on LGB sword and board KISA style characters.  People there happily discuss gay and bisexual male character ideas and lesbian and bisexual female character ideas.  There have been pages and pages of discussions on characters that aren't just gay males and there have been dozens of pics of sexy ladies as templates for a lesbian/bisexual lady KISA.  I've kind of fallen in love with the idea of a qunari blacksmith KISA lady who takes up one of her own forged swords to defend her settlement, which was generated by some wonderful soul in that thread.  In fact, it's become a solid part of my 'wishful thinking' list, particularly if we ended up visiting Kont-aar in Rivain.  Seems like she'd be the perfect character to introduce there.  Again, it's probably the most 'open-minded' of the sexuality threads.  It's impressive that it's lasted as long as it has and sandal is to thank for creating it.

[TheOgre]

Rashaan (sp?) is what i hope for in the upcoming da. But I'd gladly have that KISA female blacksmith qunari as a companion, lesbian or bi.

[SardaukarElite]

I can promise you that the exact same people who made admiring comments about that gentlemen would be supportive of photos of gorgeous and sensual women, even if they aren't personally attracted to her. 

 

Just to be sure, I feel this should be tested. Ideally with multiple pictures.

 

(late edit) And I just saw the disrespectful gay flags thread in Off Topic as well. Someone get the vodka.

[Cobra's_back]

Just torrent some porn. Problem solved.
No seriously, we don't always need nudity to enjoy a romance in video games.

I'll second this.

[Malthier]

Just to be sure, I feel this should be tested. Ideally with multiple pictures.

 

Now you're talking

[We'll bang okay]

I always thought her dress was meant to be the one in the tarot card (which I agree looks a lot better than the in-game version).

I think it is but with small differences 

[TheOgre]

Just to be sure, I feel this should be tested. Ideally with multiple pictures.

 

(late edit) And I just saw the disrespectful gay flags thread in Off Topic as well. Someone get the vodka.

I don't think they complained when cartoons and Legos recreated the scene..

 

Hahahahaha.. Ohhh Internet...

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Josephine naked ?

 

I second this notion !

 

#unruffletheambassador .

[Gamedam Meister]

I would prefer they leave Josephine Montilyet robed. 

[TheOgre]

I suppose there will be mods that can help right?

 

Please LoversLab, you did wonders with skyrim

 

[AresKeith]

I suppose there will be mods that can help right?

Please LoversLab, you did wonders with skyrim

I don't think DAI mods can do that

[RINNZ]

Everyone in this thread is stupid. Instead of crying about romances and orientations, we should be trying to figure out JUST WHO IS THE ARKHAM KNIGHT?

Edited: Sarcasm.

[TheOgre]

I don't think DAI mods can do that

ONE CAN DREAM

 

one day..

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't think DAI mods can do that

Especially since Josephine doesn't even have a nude model in the game files. 

[TheOgre]

Especially since Josephine doesn't even have a nude model in the game files. 

This is outrageous suddenly again to me.

 

Thanks Obama.

[9TailsFox]

I don't think DAI mods can do that

Game already have models so I don't think it's impossible. Just male model don't have penis  If you want to see just google dragon age models naked.

[TheOgre]

This is outrageous suddenly again to me.

 

Thanks Obama.

I am sorry I had to respond to my own thanks Obama when finding this. I feel ashamed.