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[KaiserShep]

^Yes, but that content is still there. Time and development which could have been spent creating another combat scene, or world to explore

But this is really my point. Romance content doesn't just replace a potential story-driven sequence or take time away from combat. There are likely plenty of deleted scenes and lines that just don't make it into the final product. Lack of romance content won't mean more stuff for us to do. The writers will still put out the stuff they intend to stay at the point of release, while the rest remains hidden files on the disk or scrapped entirely. Subtract romance altogether, and it's just the rest that got pared down to the finished game.

[MaxCrushmore]

Trust me when I say this: eliminating romances won't do a damn thing to those toxic elements.

 

Not a thing.

 

Sadly I have to agree with this, people who are mean to each other online are likely to find another justification for negativity. Personally I have never posted or emailed anything I wouldn't say in person.

[Giubba]

This thread is like watching the Titanic in crash course with Armagedoon's meteor with no Bruce Willis in sight.

[KaiserShep]

After seeing the moronic discussions that have gone on here since E3, I would have no problem with romances being removed, if only to purge the fanbase of it's more toxic elements.

Wouldn't the same be true of other decisions made in the game? The geth/Quarian debate is one of the most notorious. By this logic, we should never have big decisions like that, because the fandom would bicker endlessly about it and get threads locked.

[Daemul]

Trust me when I say this: eliminating romances won't do a damn thing to those toxic elements.

 

Not a thing.

 

Not at first since they would be complaining a lot and letting us all know that they won't be buying a Bioware game anymore, but just like when the romance section got closed, those elements will eventually migrate to their own corner of the internet to complain and leave the rest of the forum at peace. No one can tell me that getting rid of the most obsessive Talimancers for example didn't do wonders for this forum, it was like entering a new golden age, and that was just from closing the romance section, imagine what getting rid of romances entirely would do, it would be like reaching heaven. 

[MaxCrushmore]

@Streetmagic - Since when is expressing your opinion in a constructive way being a troll?

 

By your logic if I don't follow exact socially accepted group think I'm a troll. Guess I'd rather be a troll than a sheep in the herd

[themikefest]

Romances are not forced. Many times I haven't romanced anyone

[Star fury]

Cool story, bro.

[MaxCrushmore]

But this is really my point. Romance content doesn't just replace a potential story-driven sequence or take time away from combat. There are likely plenty of deleted scenes and lines that just don't make it into the final product. Lack of romance content won't mean more stuff for us to do. The writers will still put out the stuff they intend to stay at the point of release, while the rest remains hidden files on the disk or scrapped entirely. Subtract romance altogether, and it's just the rest that got pared down to the finished game.

 

Good point, guess I'm just wishing here ... I want the effort and resources which are going into ME:A romance to go into more playable content. I am aware there is a better chance cows will start flying before this happens but still ...

[Deebo305]

I'm serious.

 

I play video games for the action and story development related to said action. I do not need romance options; I would rather spend that time going for real life romance.

 

Please remove all potential romance and add extra action related story content in it's place.

 

The protagonist in the ME series is trying to save sentient life from extinction, do they really need to take nookie breaks? I mean, c'mon .. have some focus you overly sexualized hoss. Instead of that sex break, feel free to apply yourself and save an extra planet worth of sentient beings ..

 

That is all

You have my full support OP

 

Granted my support only comes with the promise of full forum meltdown once no romance options are announced

[KaiserShep]

Not at first since they would be complaining a lot and letting us all know that they won't be buying a Bioware game anymore, but just like when the romance section got closed, those elements will eventually migrate to their own corner of the internet to complain and leave the rest of the forum at peace. No one can tell me that getting rid of the most obsessive Talimancers for example didn't do wonders for this forum, it was like entering a new golden age, and that was just from closing the romance section, imagine what getting rid of romances entirely would do, it would be like reaching heaven.

This is BSN. It lives for conflict, and it will just find something else to obsess over. Peace? There is no peace. War never changes, friend.

[Grieving Natashina]

Wouldn't the same be true of other decisions made in the game? The geth/Quarian debate is one of the most notorious. By this logic, we should never have big decisions like that, because the fandom would bicker endlessly about it and get threads locked.

Or how about the Mage versus Templar debate, or the DA vs TW3 debate that's going on right now.  The folks in the big thread very rarely ever talk about the sex scenes, and yet the debating can get very toxic.  The romance content isn't making things any worse.  Sure, there is a lot of active romance threads on the ME forums at the moment, but romance is a topic people tend to enjoy talking about online.  No other company does it quite like BioWare does, so it makes sense that romance threads (whether it be for or against romances) come up quite a bit.  

 

We'd still have plenty of fuel to fight and bicker over.  Let me put it this way: It isn't the romance or sexuality threads where I've seen the most nuked posts more often than not.

 

Might as well pull out my stock answer for this thread:

 

I would prefer if they kept romances for their existing IPs.  Both DA and ME to me were enhanced by the romances.  The romances aren't a "make or break" for me in BioWare games.  For the most part, with a few exceptions, it's the friendships that stand out.  Still, I enjoy them in my games.  

 

However, for any new IPs that will be coming down the pike, like the world DG is helping build at the moment, I'd be okay if they left romances out entirely.  Gaider back in 2013 called the romance content a "Pandora's Box."  He enjoys writing them, but does sometimes wonder if they are more trouble than they are worth.

 

So yeah, that's my take on it.  I would prefer if they kept romances for their current games, but I don't consider it mandatory for every BioWare game.  If they create a game and leave the romances out of it, that's fine too.  I know that one of my biggest reasons for playing a BioWare game is going to be left intact, which are the friendships.  

 

No one is forcing me to romance these characters.  Which is good, because some of these LIs I can't stand and would never romance.  Heck, I ignored the romances for years in BW games because I didn't care for my choices.  

[Daemul]

Wouldn't the same be true of other decisions made in the game? The geth/Quarian debate is one of the most notorious. By this logic, we should never have big decisions like that, because the fandom would bicker endlessly about it and get threads locked.

 

Funnily enough, there seems to be a huge overlap between people who romance Tali and the most infamous participants of notorious Geth/Quarian debate, so no romance could actually get rid of the worst aspects of that. 

[MaxCrushmore]

Because it keeps popping up. And I'm wondering how someone could miss the obvious: Simply not playing a romance. That solves all of their problems. These games don't force it... thankfully.

 

And I will reiterate my point, I wish the resources being dedicated to that portion of the game were instead dedicated to more playable content.

[Karlone123]

@Streetmagic - Since when is expressing your opinion in a constructive way being a troll?

 

By your logic if I don't follow exact socially accepted group think I'm a troll. Guess I'd rather be a troll than a sheep in the herd

[Metalfros]

Just go cry in your corner as I can assure you: romance will be in the next Mass Effect. And even, how does it disturb you? Nobody is forcing you to do a romance.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

@Streetmagic - Since when is expressing your opinion in a constructive way being a troll?

 

Because he doesn't agree with it? Just guessing. It seems to be the definition of "troll" for this particular forum, at least.

[DaemionMoadrin]

If I get a longer, better and more logical plot instead of clumsy pixel sex that fades to black right when it gets interesting... then I'm for the better plot.

[FKA_Servo]

And I will reiterate my point, I wish the resources being dedicated to that portion of the game were instead dedicated to more playable content.

 

Missing the obvious would apply to someone responding to a thread without bothering to read or interpret the OP.

 

I would also be very curious to see how much content gets added by removing romances, when it all just amounts to some slightly different dialogs and a couple of different cutscenes over any given companion's character arc.

 

The fact is, ignoring the big screaming deal everyone makes over romances on this forum, they are a staggeringly tiny part of the game. Despite being almost insignificant in the big picture of the games development, they just so happen to offer a ton of appeal and replayability to a ton of people, because they are something that not many other developers even offer. So basically, trolling or not, this topic is never going to be popular because you're proposing they take away something that is in many respects unique to Bioware's games, that a lot of people really love.

 

There's no shortage of great games that don't fritter away their resources on varied romance content, if that's your thing.