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#126
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If there were no Romances in the ME Series, there would be no controversy cause people would care considerably less about the game and what happens to the characters, and that there would be considerably less people playing it. Maybe not everyone, but a majority. To say it is not a big deal is your rightful opinion, I bet a lot of people will disagree with you though. I know ME1-3 are not dating games, but you could form relationships with the characters in them, which got you attached to the game. Would removing Romances drastically effect game sales and the fanbase? I honestly don't know, I don't know how I would feel unless it happened either. But I'm 99.9% sure that they are going to be in the game, cause that IS a bit part of the ME series.


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I would rather there be fewer of them, if not none at all, in this game as it was so in the first Mass Effect.

Focus more on building this new world, and leave the lovey-dovey stuff for later entries. Makes it more interesting once characters have had a longer, prolonged time in each others' company.


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Everyone starts out like that. Multiplayer is challenging (which is the reason it has so much re playability). You are depriving yourself of much fun by not trying again.

 

If you go to the multiplayer forum and ask for some help or pointers you will have lots of people offer to help. Everyone needs to start somewhere.

 

One of the biggest problems some people have is the pre-set difficulty is Platinum (which boggles the mind). As a staring MP player, you really want to begin on Bronze until you get a feel for the map layouts, ammo boxes, etc. Especially considering you are starting with nerf guns which do noting above Bronze.

 

It was kind of sweet that another player cared to revive me but it also added to the shame of being ridiculously incompetent. *laughs*


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#129
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I dun got ninja'd by someone saying pretty much exactly the same thing as me.

 

 

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1500 hours?

 

Really?

 

I tried once. Was promptly killed and never dared coming back because of the shame.

 

I spent perhaps 300 hours with the ME1, 2 and 3 SP. Played all variants that were possible.

 

The first time I finished ME3 I felt... empty. Can't really describe it. It wasn't fun though. It took me two years before I did another ME3 playthrough and might take a while before I do it again.

 

The MP though? 1122 hours as of right now. It saved ME3. Truly, I only rate that game so highly because the MP is so much fun.


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It was kind of sweet that another player cared to revive me but it also added to the shame of being ridiculously incompetent. *laughs*

 

In the average MP game that happens many many times

 

Every single player has been dropped or synch killed more times that they can count, even the very best players.

 

The higher difficulties are challenging; there is nothing in SP that can prepare for those


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^Yes, but that content is still there. Time and development which could have been spent creating another combat scene, or world to explore

  And I'd like them to get rid of the multiplayer stuff and add more story with dialogue.   Ignore the romances like I have to ignore the multiplayer stuff, even though I know it's there.


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  And I'd like them to get rid of the multiplayer stuff and add more story with dialogue.   Ignore the romances like I have to ignore the multiplayer stuff, even though I know it's there.

 

The same here.


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Yeah. Me Personally I would be perfectly fine if they completely cut out MP and focused only on SP. I would prefer they did that too.


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  And I'd like them to get rid of the multiplayer stuff and add more story with dialogue.   Ignore the romances like I have to ignore the multiplayer stuff, even though I know it's there.

 

Fair enough. IMO if they announced there was no multiplayer I would either boycott ME:A or start throwing rotten eggs at the Bioware offices (or possibly both)

 

 

^ dang you people, go make your own thread arguing against MP. I guarantee that would cause a reaction bigger than any debate re ME romance!



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Yeah. Me Personally I would be perfectly fine if they completely cut out MP and focused only on SP. I would prefer they did that too.

 

Well, considering that the chance BioWare will screw up the MP because of EA being greedy, impatient and clueless is very high, maybe not having any MP would be best. We can keep playing ME3 and not suffer through another brainfart like DAMP.



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Not at first since they would be complaining a lot and letting us all know that they won't be buying a Bioware game anymore, but just like when the romance section got closed, those elements will eventually migrate to their own corner of the internet to complain and leave the rest of the forum at peace. No one can tell me that getting rid of the most obsessive Talimancers for example didn't do wonders for this forum, it was like entering a new golden age, and that was just from closing the romance section, imagine what getting rid of romances entirely would do, it would be like reaching heaven. 

 

It certainly would lower their purchase spot for me.  I've picked up their games first, because of the story, character development and  includes the romance side stories.  I might still play it if the friendship path was good, but wouldn't be the first game I buy any more.  Might save myself some money.


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Anyone else really only excited for the MP stories we'll make through the awesome gameplay?


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Yeah. Me Personally I would be perfectly fine if they completely cut out MP and focused only on SP. I would prefer they did that too.

 

Yeup.  I really wouldn't mind the MP as much if it were tuned and optimized around solo play.  Most of the time, I'm just not interested in playing with people, but the basic structure of MP in ME3 (going on missions to maintain control over sites you secured in SP, for minor benefits in the main campaign) was kinda interesting itself.

 

(I'm also not often interested in gameplay challenges, so a difficulty setting below Bronze would also have interested me more.)


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So, just curious, did you posters saying you don't want / like MP, did you ever try it?

 

Personally I was hooked pretty quick ..


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I'm not against romances, but I do dislike the amount of space it seems to be getting in Bioware games. I remember the DAI forum before its release and a lot of people looked to squadmates like food in a menu. Their priority in the game seems to romance a character that they were already choosing by the marketing of the game. And that was partially the result of a marketing that focused too much on that aspect. 


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Anyone else really only excited for the MP stories we'll make through the awesome gameplay?

Basically this, but I'll be going to an actual MP thread to hype that rather than de-rail this one. :lol:



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Also to OP, the reason why I didn't choose any romance in the first playthrough was because of Jane.... yep I am attracted to Jane Shepard the protagonist. As a matter of fact the only reason why I got into the Mass Effect franchise was because of her poster in ME3. I as like... who is this woman? I don't want any aliens near her! Lmao, Then I played 3 first worst mistake ever... then decided to get the whole franchise.

Seeing her blown up in the end was hard yes but is also satisfying to finally end her ordeal and suffering... bitter sweet.

If I compare her to Tali I have to go with the commander, it felt so real and made the game more intense since I was focused on the protagonist more

 

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So, just curious, did you posters saying you don't want / like MP, did you ever try it?

 

According to N7 HQ's leaderboards for the XBox 360, I'm in the top 5% or 8% depending on whether you look at N7 points or challenge points, which took 446 games totaling just under 128 hours (which is much less time than I put into ME3's single player).  I rarely have Gold activated on my XBox Live account, but did recently for one month and decided to see if I could binge-play long enough to get the Awakened Collector.


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I'm not against romances, but I do dislike the amount of space it seems to be getting in Bioware games. I remember the DAI forum before its release and a lot of people looked to squadmates like food in a menu. Their priority in the game seems to romance a character that they were already choosing by the marketing of the game. And that was partially the result of a marketing that focused to much on that aspect. 

 

Yeah, that was rather daunting to watch.

 

The words used for potential partners don´t make it better: Love Interest, Romance, Romance Option.

 

I admit, it was creepy at times.

 

But than again, I would never played ME if I hadn´t seen so much fanart of it (mostly romances) on deviantart. I simply didn´t care for shooters before.


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#146
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Now you're an internet toughguy. You should have stayed a troll. It's better.

 

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...Internet... tough guy? Are you for real? I doubt I could find the line beyond which your feelings would no longer be hurt, so I will not try.

 

I don't think I have strong disagreements in "opinion" either.

 

So you just log in to the internet, find people with an opinion different from yours, and call them "trolls" for fun? Hmm. That sounds like... what's the word I'm looking for...?

 

The only thing I think you're trolling for is because these threads are self-serving and meant to screw with people.

 

To some extent, every thread with an opinion is self-serving. By your definition, almost everyone is a troll except you. This does not surprise me.

 

You can not realistically expect a good response from all the romance fans here. It'll never go well.

 

And yet, I had several pro-romance people discuss the issue with me in a civil manner, and we were able to do so while still respecting each others' opinions. They even acknowledged that the thread was funny.

 

I was aware that the thread would upset people, but let's be real. It didn't upset "pro-romance people." It upset "pro romance people who rage at those who don't share their opinions." And that's exactly what will happen anytime anyone makes a thread with an opinion in it. If you don't know that, I'm not at all surprised.



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Mass Effect 3 MP was very good IMO. and improved my ability in single-player a bit  and wouldn't mind it in the next mass effect tbh plus with it transactions it makes EA/Bioware money (which I hope they don't to try to manipulate in the future) so they can invest more into the single-player.

 

Plus the romance only add like 30 mins extra minutes per character/romance option so there is now reason why cant we have both. I would like romances that actually affect the plot and the story outcome in a slight way of course. 

 

 

I'm not against romances, but I do dislike the amount of space it seems to be getting in Bioware games. I remember the DAI forum before its release and a lot of people looked to squadmates like food in a menu. Their priority in the game seems to romance a character that they were already choosing by the marketing of the game. And that was partially the result of a marketing that focused to much on that aspect. 

 

Yeah the fact that romances have to be announced pre-release say something about some people "priorities" over the games but players have different interest when it comes to games so they as much right getting excited over romances as some players can over other aspects of the games. 


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Fair enough. IMO if they announced there was no multiplayer I would either boycott ME:A or start throwing rotten eggs at the Bioware offices (or possibly both)

 

 

^ dang you people, go make your own thread arguing against MP. I guarantee that would cause a reaction bigger than any debate re ME romance!

To be fair their request to get rid of Multiplayer is unrealistic as yours to get rid of romances.  Simply put, it's not gonna happen.  Though you are right.  It should go into a different thread.

 

On point though, while it's true this is the place to discuss and make these sort of requests, it's also ridiculously unlikely and unrealistic thing to want.  Firstly from a business stand point it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket, or at least it is now that bioware has come to a point where this sort of thing is simply expected.  You risk alienating too much of your player base.  It's far more reasonable for them to include and for you to simply not play it rather than move the funds to further support people who want action who are already getting that.  The move to remove it won't add any body to player base, it'll simply get rid of people who are already there.


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To be fair their request to get rid of Multiplayer is unrealistic as yours to get rid of romances.  Simply put, it's not gonna happen.  Though you are right.  It should go into a different thread.

 

On point though, while it's true this is the place to discuss and make these sort of requests, it's also ridiculously unlikely and unrealistic thing to want.  Firstly from a business stand point it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket, or at least it is now that bioware has come to a point where this sort of thing is simply expected.  You risk alienating too much of your player base.  It's far more reasonable for them to include and for you to simply not play it rather than move the funds to further support people who want action who are already getting that.  The move to remove it won't add any body to player base, it'll simply get rid of people who are already there.

Yep... also Bioware does give you the power and choice to enter into a romance or not. So I don't see this as a problem



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But than again, I would never played ME if I hadn´t seen so much fanart of it (mostly romances) on deviantart. I simply didn´t care for shooters before.

That's why I said I'm not against romances. Making amazing characters is probably Bioware best trait, and some of the romances those game allowed were thoroughly good. Although Bastila from KoTOR is still a far no. 1 in my books.

I just wish that when they announce a character in MEA there wasn't the need to asnwer the question "Can I romance him/her? Both sexes?", or even better, that those questions didn't even exist. 

The good news is that that didn't had a great effect on the game itself (thinking of DAI). As much as it was weird to see a option for a romantic dialogue so often, I could always avoid it without feeling I was getting the short end of the stick.