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[Mdizzletr0n]

I've been lurking this forum for awhile and i just have to ask: Why are so many people still so upset that Shepard and the Milky Way aren't involved in ME:A?

I mean, Shepard as a character was essentially a lifeless soldier in the first game. No emotion... Stoic military responses. Boring.

As the trilogy went on they gave Shepard more humanity... Or as much as they could while keeping the soldier aspect. Which was a HUGE improvement but that whole soldier thing still made Shepard a bit uninteresting to me and one of the least interesting characters in the series. I didn't feel any attachment to him/her as much as I did other characters in the series. Hopefully, ME:A gives us a more human protagonist without military ties. That whole angle is over done.

As far as the Milky Way... What left is there to really see at this point? Why hold on to it?

[United Servo Academy Choir]

I largely agree with you, and I predict between 3-5 pages for this one.

[The Sauce of Awesome]

My belief is it's because most if not all of us are fairly attached to their Shepards. Shepard was our character, you know?

 

As for the Milky Way thing...you got me. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

As far as the Milky Way... What left is there to really see at this point? Why hold on to it?

Over 99% of the galaxy for starters. 

[In Exile]

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[In Exile]

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[United Servo Academy Choir]

The events of ME2 combined with the ending of ME3 were pretty much enough to convince me to cut ties with all my previously beloved Shepards.

[In Exile]

People seem to think that fake made up locations in the milky way are somehow better than fake made up locations elsewhere in the universe. It's not clear why.

[Iakus]

As far as the Milky Way... What left is there to really see at this point? Why hold on to it?

What's left to see?  Roughly all of it.

 

There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way.  The explored part of the relay network covers less than one percent of that.  And we the player only saw a tiny fraction of that. (given even one percent is still 3 billion stars.  Billion with a B.  As in nine zeroes)

 

THrowing that all away is just plain wasteful.  All the stories hinted at that now will never be told.  All places left to explore that now we will never see.  All this stuff which is, cosmically speaking in our own back yard.

 

Again, wasteful.

[agonis]

 

It will not end well, but yeah, I liked Shepard in ME3 more then in ME1. She was a lot more real to me, had more depth.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

People seem to think that fake made up locations in the milky way are somehow better than fake made up locations elsewhere in the universe. It's not clear why.

Well, one reason for me is because while the locations were fake they took place in real places, like around real stars or within real nebulae. As an astronomy lover, I really liked that. But for Andromeda they'll have to make everything up. 

[The Sauce of Awesome]

Well, one reason for me is because while the locations were fake they took place in real places, like around real stars or within real nebulae. As an astronomy lover, I really liked that. But for Andromeda they'll have to make everything up. 

 

So fake places in the Milky Way are okay but fake places in a galaxy that's just as equally real aren't? Good to know!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So fake places in the Milky Way are okay but fake places in a galaxy that's just as equally real aren't? Good to know!

No.

In the Shepard Trilogy, there were real planets, stars, nebulae, and clusters. So there was real with the made up stuff. 

With Andromeda, they'll have to make everything up. Planets, stars, nebulae, even the cluster the leak says it takes place in isn't a real cluster. 

[Mdizzletr0n]

What's left to see? Roughly all of it.

There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way. The explored part of the relay network covers less than one percent of that. And we the player only saw a tiny fraction of that. (given even one percent is still 3 billion stars. Billion with a B. As in nine zeroes)

THrowing that all away is just plain wasteful. All the stories hinted at that now will never be told. All places left to explore that now we will never see. All this stuff which is, cosmically speaking in our own back yard.

Again, wasteful.

Fair enough, but it seems that as far as the trilogy goes there's no continuation of the Milky Way without mentioning Shepard in some form.

[von uber]

Sod Shepard. It's the places, people and cultures of Milky Way I like.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Yep, this'll definitely get takers.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Fair enough, but it seems that as far as the trilogy goes there's no continuation of the Milky Way without mentioning Shepard in some form.

They're going to have to mention Shepard anyway. 

Either the people leave before or during the Reaper War after Shepard exposed the threat of the Reapers, or they leave after the Reaper War in which case they'll have to mention 'The Shepard'. 

[The Sauce of Awesome]

No.

In the Shepard Trilogy, there were real planets, stars, nebulae, and clusters. So there was real with the made up stuff. 

With Andromeda, they'll have to make everything up. Planets, stars, nebulae, even the cluster the leak says it takes place in isn't a real cluster. 

 

I just don't get the logic behind what you previously said, is all. Granted I'm not an astronomer, but come on, this is fiction we're talking about, not astronomy. Sorry if I sound like a dick here, but fictional places in one galaxy or another shouldn't make one bit of difference.

[United Servo Academy Choir]

They're going to have to mention Shepard anyway. 

Either the people leave before or during the Reaper War after Shepard exposed the threat of the Reapers, or they leave after the Reaper War in which case they'll have to mention 'The Shepard'. 

 

I am 100% ok with references to Shepard, but if they reference "The Shepard," I reiterate that I will mail a box of toxic spiders to Bioware HQ.

[Torgette]

I think people are afraid of change, I don't remember anybody saying we need to explore the 99% of the milky way while games were still being made with that setting - if anything everybody wanted to explore more of the Citadel or visit Earth or Palavan or etc. (known locations).

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I just don't get the logic behind what you previously said, is all. Granted I'm not an astronomer, but come on, this is fiction we're talking about, not astronomy. Sorry if I sound like a dick here, but fictional places in one galaxy or another shouldn't make one bit of difference.

That's probably the difference. I love space, and he fact that the Shepard Trilogy had real places in space in the game was part of what made me fall in love with the game. It was one of the only franchises in video games to ever do that. With that gone, it just creates a big disconnect for me. Yeah, it takes place in a real galaxy, but that's it. Everything else will be made up.

[KotorEffect3]

I can see why people aren't happy about leaving the Milky Way, we got to know the races and cultures of the Milky Way but I am looking forward to seeing what they will do with a new and larger galaxy.  As far as Shepard goes it is time to move onto a new protagonist, people tend to get too attached to their old protagonists (in the DA forums people are still whining about not having the warden come back).  I am looking forward to forging a new protagonists career, playing as someone else will bring in a fresh perspective.

[iorveth1271]

I think it's just people being bitter about everything BW decides at this point. On one hand, people want more Shepard. On the other, people don't want endings canonized because apparently they all sucked donkey-balls. Then people wanna continue exploring the Milky Way, but unless BW sets the game so far in the future that even Synthesis could be manually achieved without the help of god-children (by which point I daresay there isn't much left to explore in the Milky Way anyways...), they'd have to canonize endings again.

Either way, people will find something to wahwah about. It's daily business in these forums these days lol.

[Catastrophy]

Playing Shepard was quite an intimate affair. No this is not about romance options. And the Milky Way is what you perceive as Mass Effect universe. Taking that feeling to a new setting could mean it won't feel like Mass Effect.

[The Sauce of Awesome]

I think people are afraid of change, I don't remember anybody saying we need to explore the 99% of the milky way while games were still being made with that setting - if anything everybody wanted to explore more of the Citadel or visit Earth or Palavan or etc. (known locations).

 

I don't recall either, but apparently that's what people want. Thing is, though, there are plenty of pieces of fiction that take place in a galaxy other than the Milky Way and I'm not just talking about Star Wars. Star Wars, Stargate: Atlantis, Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda (which is set in three galaxies, IIRC) and the list goes on. I just don't see what the big deal is in a fictional setting that's not in our galaxy. It's not like our seeing another galaxy is the first time ever...

 

But still, we're going to Andromeda no matter how much people complain. So, to those people...