This entire conversation has been had already but the whiners won't stop whining.
Look, people discuss stuff on here. It's what the place is for.
You like this, I like that. We argue in a friendly manner. Nothing wrong with that.
Name-calling though, plenty wrong.
There is no value present in the unexplored parts of the Mass Effect version of the Milky Way. It doesn't exist.
I meant the place as a whole. I didn't get that the assumption was that you'd be restricted to unexplored space.
The endings were designed to end continuity, there is no way to devalue it further than it has been.
What's with the personal insults?
Nothing personally insulting. I am not calling you stupid. I am saying what you said is stupid. 'Happens to the best of us.
But seriously, though, what gives? You and many others decry that so much of the old setting is being lost by transitioning to a new one -- you in particular said something like "It's Mass Effect in name only!" -- when, in reality, everything that existed in the old setting can be replicated in the new one.
Only question is how much they are going to carry over, exactly. Since none of us know, however, anyone saying that we are going to lose the things that make it Mass Effect is just talking out of their rear.
I've been lurking this forum for awhile and i just have to ask: Why are so many people still so upset that Shepard and the Milky Way aren't involved in ME:A?
I mean, Shepard as a character was essentially a lifeless soldier in the first game. No emotion... Stoic military responses. Boring.
As the trilogy went on they gave Shepard more humanity... Or as much as they could while keeping the soldier aspect. Which was a HUGE improvement but that whole soldier thing still made Shepard a bit uninteresting to me and one of the least interesting characters in the series. I didn't feel any attachment to him/her as much as I did other characters in the series. Hopefully, ME:A gives us a more human protagonist without military ties. That whole angle is over done.
As far as the Milky Way... What left is there to really see at this point? Why hold on to it?
I mostly agree (the exceptions being: That the soldier angle being overdone - because I think it's one of the few routes to explain how our character got his/her skills and knowledge of tactics etc. and the other being that Sheppard was emotionless at first...sorry, but: What game did you play (a different one than I did probably)? - I thought ME1 was one of the best games ever and I thought emotional investment was represented well (like Virmire and the romances!)), I don't know what ties most people to Sheppard...but it might just be me, I don't have ties to RPG-Characters as I play self-inserts (I treat characters as blank slates that would be nothing without me, the player, and so I don't have ties to them, as they are just more or less a walking camera which let's me explore the world, the important thing is me and I am taking myself with me to a new game/new character, so it's not a problem...I am more invested in the NPCs/companions (I think it's sad that we aren't going to see any of them again, unless there's some kind of twist (taking long live into account for example or advances in stasis technology (prothean pods!))...still, those can be switched out, too without me crying foul 
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The species were already homogenizing before the Reaper invasion, post Reaper invasion the cultures will be wildly different anyways - either everything is destroyed or history will be rewritten because of the revelation of the Reapers' existence. Either way nothing will be the same post ME3, even more so if you chose Synthesis or Control. The Krogan themselves won't have the same culture they had prior to the genophage no matter what, and same goes for the Quarians who will have to establish a non-ship based culture again. Going to Andromeda is fairly inconsequential really, if anything culture should probably be even more embraced going forward.
Culture doesn't disappear because a civilization evolves. Leaving it behind and running away from it is a different matter entirely.
Post-ME3 wasn't a necessity.
Culture doesn't disappear because a civilization evolves. Leaving it behind and running away from it is a different matter entirely.
Post-ME3 wasn't a necessity.
Their culture isn't being left behind either
I can't wait for the new PC to be revealed. I bet there's going to be people who are like "Shepard who?" I get it, Shepard is like a first love. Sometimes you wonder "what could have been?" But then you meet someone else, and they are better than the last (sometimes).
Their culture isn't being left behind either
but of course it is. Their homeworlds, colonies...basically everything that embodies it other than the species itself.
but of course it is. Their homeworlds, colonies...basically everything that embodies it other than the species itself.
And they're setting up new colonies in the new Galaxy which they can bring their culture back
Leaving their home doesn't mean they're leaving their culture, what kind of logic is that?
It'll be pretty awesome if Bioware can manage to do it
I can't wait for the new PC to be revealed. I bet there's going to be people who are like "Shepard who?" I get it, Shepard is like a first love. Sometimes you wonder "what could have been?" But then you meet someone else, and they are better than the last (sometimes).
And they're setting up new colonies in the new Galaxy which they can bring their culture back
Leaving their home doesn't mean they're leaving their culture, what kind of logic is that?
New colonies in a galaxy that is nothing like where they came from. New colonies when we haven't even experienced their homeworlds. That's an awful waste of space and creative potential. Also lazy as all hell.
It's essentially a reboot for everything you know of the series.They should just lump all of the species homeworlds into one Codex category "Places you'll never fully experience (also see: irrelevant)". You're not taking it with you. Because Bioware is burying it. An imitation of the original. A complete departure from its origins.
New colonies in a galaxy that is nothing like where they came from. New colonies when we haven't even experienced their homeworlds. That's an awful waste of space and creative potential. Also lazy as all hell.
We have no idea how the other places are or what they have to jump to conclusions. Really? Making an entire new Galaxy with new ideas, races, and technology along with the past stuff is lazy?
How is our inability to see their homeworlds anymore relevant to the MW species in Andromeda losing their culture?New colonies in a galaxy that is nothing like where they came from. New colonies when we haven't even experienced their homeworlds. That's an awful waste of space and creative potential. Also lazy as all hell.
It's essentially a reboot for everything you know of the series.They should just lump all of the species homeworlds into one Codex category "Places you'll never fully experience (also see: irrelevant)". You're not taking it with you. Because Bioware is burying it. An imitation of the original. A complete departure from its origins.
We need to be able to have mayhem on scorchnado planet. Biower plz
Mayhem?
Since the rest of the post consisted of brainstormed ideas (with a number of issues that could be "fleshed out" later), I'll just respond to this:
Well yeah, throwing out ideas.
But the point is, there are possibilities. They would be difficult to work out and implement, hence the ambitious bit, but it's possible.
The end-product is bound to have its problems of course, as I'm sure Andromeda will too.
Incorrect. Existing states preserve full value until the writers decide to directly chop away at it. In each branch, the Milky Way lives on. Variables might change centuries down the line since, well, stuff happens beyond the player's control over time. In the present, however, it's perfectly possible for all world-states to continue.
I don't mean in my imagination. It seemed to have been the intention of the authors of that ending to close the series irrevocably.
I bet the decision to make Andromeda came from higher up following the commercial success of ME3.
We have no idea how the other places are or what they have to jump to conclusions. Really? Making an entire new Galaxy with new ideas, races, and technology along with the past stuff is lazy?
The only past stuff they're bringing are the species. Instead of thinking of a good story to tell within the rich setting they've built (either pre or post ME3) , they've chosen to avoid it entirely by running away from it. Yes, that is rather lazy. And you said "new ideas"....when we know all we're going to get is another galaxy eating threat.
The only past stuff they're bringing are the species. Instead of thinking of a good story to tell within the rich setting they've built (either pre or post ME3) , they've chosen to avoid it entirely by running away from it. Yes, that is rather lazy. And you said "new ideas"....when we know all we're going to get is another galaxy eating threat.
Right so build something completely new from scratch is lazy 
How is our inability to see their homeworlds anymore relevant to the MW species in Andromeda losing their culture?
is present day America anything like 1700's Britain? The answer is no. Even though the founding fathers were subjects of Britains government.
To assume that just because there's a colony of Turians or Asari in Andromeda means their culture is going to be anything like that of Palaven or Thessia is a mind-boggling stretch.
Good thing is, the annals of history won't just forget and discard that 1700's existed. Unlike Bioware, whom literally had infinitely fertile ground for storytelling and left it on the cutting floor. Why would I want to go out of country, when I haven't explored my own neighborhood...
Right so build something completely new from scratch is lazy
compared to exercising your creative abilities by progressing what you've already established? Sure is
compared to exercising your creative abilities by progressing what you've already established? Sure is
Doesn't make it lazy at all, you just don't like it
I can't wait for the new PC to be revealed. I bet there's going to be people who are like "Shepard who?" I get it, Shepard is like a first love. Sometimes you wonder "what could have been?" But then you meet someone else, and they are better than the last (sometimes).
Highly unlikely. We've had three Dragon Ages, lots of people still want to go back to being the Warden. And the Warden isn't exactly a big-time character like Commander Shepard.
New colonies in a galaxy that is nothing like where they came from. New colonies when we haven't even experienced their homeworlds. That's an awful waste of space and creative potential. Also lazy as all hell.
I'm Not arguing either point. The possible loss of their culture is still Not relevant to the fact that we won't see the MW homeworlds. Even if culture would be preserved, we won't be able To see the homeworlds.is present day America anything like 1700's Britain? The answer is no. Even though the founding fathers were subjects of Britains government.
To assume that just because there's a colony of Turians or Asari in Andromeda means their culture is going to be anything like that of Palaven or Thessia is a mind-boggling stretch.
Good thing is, the annals of history won't just forget and discard that 1700's existed. Unlike Bioware, whom literally had infinitely fertile ground for storytelling and left it on the cutting floor. Why would I want to go out of country, when I haven't explored my own neighborhood...
is present day America anything like 1700's Britain? The answer is no. Even though the founding fathers were subjects of Britains government.
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