Not really since people still consider it a Mass Effect, and It honestly won't stop this fandom for finding something to complaint about
Some people will still consider it Mass Effect. Some others won't. This will spawn a never-ending argument. Bioware made that bed by galaxy hopping.
So we're saying the same thing, so why the "not really"?
Some people will still consider it Mass Effect. Some others won't. This will spawn a never-ending argument. Bioware made that bed by galaxy hopping.
So we're saying the same thing, so why the "not really"?
The not really comes from that no matter what Bioware do there's gonna be a never-ending argument
Some already say they made their bed when they did the ME3 endings
It's "Mass Effect". Whether it is Mass Effect has yet to be determined.
In terms of setting, it is in the same universe as Mass effect, so it's de facto Mass effect.
aka... its what Bioware did to Kotor with Swtor.... I'd expect some retcons
Milky Way is overrated
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Let's see. Some people had been playing as the Shepard since ME1 release. Which is 2007. Apparently you think that 8 years (9 by the moment of possible MEA release) is not long enough to bond to the character\setting? Even the 'latecomers' have 3 years. With 100+ of gameplay per single full PT (1-3).
While I don't think that word 'obsession' as a correct one, I don't see anything strange or wrong about people being cautious and suspicious about the upcoming game. People want to be sure that all those many hours matter, or (at the very least) that they are still valid. People want that very same universe, not resurrected Shepard with evergreenblue Liara.
There are those who do not care - sure, but those people are very unlikely to post their concerns on forums. Unless that's the Very Special Case of 'I do not care about your game and about this boring character, and I can't stress enough how much I do not care, and I had created a thread just for all of you to know about that'.
Well, I love Shepard, but I'm also happy to see him rest. I like seeing a RPG character develop over multiple games, but there comes a point when you need to let them go. Shepard's story is finished and I'm excited to meet the next ME protagonist. But I do agree that I hope the next one isn't as soldier-y. We're obviously still going to be involved with the Alliance, but I want someone more of an explorer character than someone so linked to military hierachy.
And I've never understood the tears about leaving the Milky Way. It's a giant universe out there and I'm excited to see more of it.
I never expected him to make it out alive for all the reasons you just stated. Some people think I'm crazy when I say that. Surprised they haven't gotten on your case about it yet.
I look forward to a new protagonist and a new crew. But abandoning the Milky Way was overkill imo.
Yes, staying in the Milky Way wasn't required. Leaving it was just the worst of their options, and they took it.
It didn't need to take place before ME1 either. It could've taken place during the current timeline (before the Reaper Invasion/War) and there would've been no issue. There's trillions of beings living out their own adventures concurrently with Shepard. And the only issue anyone ever comes up with is "but the Reapers are coming..." nitpick. Which is a problem for those individuals in particular, nothing more.
The last thing we need is to play as another galactic messiah, saving the universe from an ancient, unstoppable world-eating threat. But seeing as how they felt the need for a completely untouched setting, it seems that's exactly what we'll get.
Of course, I'll just have to wholeheartedly disagree with all of that, but whatevs.
"The Reapers are coming" is also an issue I have, but another issue I have is that the entire setting stagnates. You may not believe that it would, but the politics, technology, and the state of the entire galaxy are all reset. Batarians are still slavery scum, krogan are still boned by the genophage, quarians are still stuck in their flotilla, the geth are still the enemy, though we might not even see them at all anyway, and there's still reaper crap littered throughout the galaxy, like husks. And it's all the same crap everywhere. I don't care about any of these schlubs living parallel to Shepard anymore. It all eventually gets scorched anyway.
So what is so good about going backward in time in the MEU? There's nothing about the past in that setting that's particularly compelling or charming in the least.
People who didn't think Shepard was going to die didn't pay close enough attention to any of the three games. First off, he is plastered with more religious savior symbolism than my Hispanic ex-girlfriend's uncles low-rider, he "died" only to triumphantly defy fate at the end of ME1, he literally died and was resurrected via a project entitled Lazarus, his name is Shepard for Christssakes, I could go on and on.
It was abundantly clear by the end of ME2 that Shepard was going to sacrifice himself to save the galaxy and stop the Reapers. Honestly, people bitching and moaning about not playing as Shepard need to get over it because it was never going to happen.
Even if the next Mass Effect game took place in a post-Destroy Milky Way, we would not be playing as Shepard. It's time for a new character and a new story. Shepard had his 15 minutes of fame. Now let him rest in piece.
Or pieces, really, depending on which ending you chose.
I'm glad I didn't pay attention to anything ME-related when ME3 came out and years afterwards, when I eventually played ME3 3 years after the game came out I rolled with destroy not expecting to survive - clearly seeing the Citadel explode made that clear. So yeah the easter egg ending was a nice surprise, but if that didn't exist it's not like it'd change anything for me since I went in not knowing of its existence.
The three games in total didn't really set a clear path for anything. The entire overarching narrative is too disjointed for that.
Ditching a battlefield which course didn´t develop your way is the way of a clever coward.
Archieving victory against all odds instead is the way of a brave genius.
People can't handle things ending. They are more interested in revisiting things they already know they enjoy than having a new experience. Its just human nature, as flawed and predictable as it is.
Does the change in galaxy really matter when all the races of the previous Mass Effect games will be in this one? There will be a giant space station, that we'll just call Citadel 2.0, a council consisting of a Human, Turian, Salarian, and Asari. Oh and let's not forget that we'll be looking into the extinction of an older species of Aliens.
By Golly Gee, I don't see a difference between this Mass Effect and the other one, except for the name change in galaxy.
Does the change in galaxy really matter when all the races of the previous Mass Effect games will be in this one? There will be a giant space station, that we'll just call Citadel 2.0, a council consisting of a Human, Turian, Salarian, and Asari. Oh and let's not forget that we'll be looking into the extinction of an older species of Aliens.
By Golly Gee, I don't see a difference between this Mass Effect and the other one, except for the name change in galaxy.
I really, 100% think that this is what's going to happen. Although I sort of expect the citadel analog to be our ship.
Either way, it's going to look like a ME game, populated with familiar imagery.
Some people will still consider it Mass Effect. Some others won't. This will spawn a never-ending argument. Bioware made that bed by galaxy hopping.
So we're saying the same thing, so why the "not really"?
People who didn't think Shepard was going to die didn't pay close enough attention to any of the three games. First off, he is plastered with more religious savior symbolism than my Hispanic ex-girlfriend's uncles low-rider, he "died" only to triumphantly defy fate at the end of ME1, he literally died and was resurrected via a project entitled Lazarus, his name is Shepard for Christssakes, I could go on and on.
If surviving situations that initially seemed to kill him makes you a Messiah, then Arnold Schwarzeneggar and Bruce Willis play Messianic roles in the movies on a regular basis.
The Lazarus Project was just a stupid way to negate Shepard's choices and advance the timeline.
Commander Shepard was named after Alan Shepard. Who (not) coincidentally, was the first commander to use red stripes on the arms and legs as personal identification during the Apollo 14 mission.
So no, Shepard's "sacrifice", and I use the term very loosely, was not foreshadowed AT ALL. I find it extremely easy to believe those rumors that it was cooked up by Walters and Hudson in some misguided attempt to be "dark and edgy" because shows like Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad are so popular nowadays.
Besides which I don't give a sh*t about playing Shepard again. I was ready fro that story to end with ME3 even before that game was released. My beef with that is Shepard's story ended so badly, yet Bioware is not in the least bit contrite about that, essentially blaming ME for being too stupid to appreciate the Art behind it.
What I do care about in this case is the essentially slash-and-burn attitude towards the Mass Effect setting. Go in, trash an entire freaking galaxy, rendering it unusable, and moving on to a new one, pretending the screwup never happened.
Playing Shepard was quite an intimate affair. No this is not about romance options. And the Milky Way is what you perceive as Mass Effect universe. Taking that feeling to a new setting could mean it won't feel like Mass Effect.
Which is completely silly. There's literally no difference between this game taking place in Andromeda or the 99% of the unexplored Milky Way galaxy. Either way there would be no mass relays, and we'd still be in completely foreign space. The difference is Andromeda allows them to completely differentiate from the original trilogy. There's no way to say that our mission wouldn't be the exact same thing regardless of which galaxy the game takes place in.
And saying that the Milky Way galaxy is what makes Mass Effect what it is is downright shallow, and doesn't give enough credit to what the series has done.
I hate to say it but space is space. It doesn't matter if the system with the swirly violet and blue colors we're visiting is within the MWG or the Andromeda galaxy, it's still a system with swirly violet and blue colors around it. It's still going to be foreign to us regardless.
Which is completely silly. There's literally no difference between this game taking place in Andromeda or the 99% of the unexplored Milky Way galaxy. Either way there would be no mass relays, and we'd still be in completely foreign space. The difference is Andromeda allows them to completely differentiate from the original trilogy. There's no way to say that our mission wouldn't be the exact same thing regardless of which galaxy the game takes place in.
And saying that the Milky Way galaxy is what makes Mass Effect what it is is downright shallow, and doesn't give enough credit to what the series has done.
I hate to say it but space is space. It doesn't matter if the system with the swirly violet and blue colors we're visiting is within the MWG or the Andromeda galaxy, it's still a system with swirly violet and blue colors around it. It's still going to be foreign to us regardless.
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Which is completely silly. There's literally no difference between this game taking place in Andromeda or the 99% of the unexplored Milky Way galaxy. Either way there would be no mass relays, and we'd still be in completely foreign space. The difference is Andromeda allows them to completely differentiate from the original trilogy. There's no way to say that our mission wouldn't be the exact same thing regardless of which galaxy the game takes place in.
Except it wouldn't take an @$$pull of intergalactic proportions to explain how we got there. Because, you know, FTL drives can't run more than fifty hours or so without bulkheads fusing and crew dying.
Andromeda may be hyped as a new frontier to explore, but it's pretty clear the real reason for going there: they broke the old setting, and are unwilling to admit it.
And saying that the Milky Way galaxy is what makes Mass Effect what it is is downright shallow, and doesn't give enough credit to what the series has done.
And what has the series done, exactly?
I hate to say it but space is space. It doesn't matter if the system with the swirly violet and blue colors we're visiting is within the MWG or the Andromeda galaxy, it's still a system with swirly violet and blue colors around it. It's still going to be foreign to us regardless.
Wut?
If surviving situations that initially seemed to kill him, then Arnold Schwarzeneggar and Bruce Willis play Messiahs in the movies on a regular basis.
The Lazarus Project was just a stupid way to negate Shepard's choices and advance the timeline.
Commander Shepard was named after Alan Shepard. Who (not) coincidentally, was the first commander to use red stripes on the arms and legs as personal identification during the Apollo 14 mission.
So no, Shepard's "sacrifice", and I use the term very loosely, was not foreshadowed AT ALL. I find it extremely easy to believe those rumors that it was cooked up by Walters and Hudson in some misguided attempt to be "dark and edgy" because shows like Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad are so popular nowadays.
Besides which I don't give a sh*t about playing Shepard again. I was ready fro that story to end with ME3 even before that game was released. My beef with that is Shepard's story ended so badly, yet Bioware is not in the least bit contrite about that, essentially blaming ME for being too stupid to appreciate the Art behind it.
What I do care about in this case is the essentially slash-and-burn attitude towards the Mass Effect setting. Go in, trash an entire freaking galaxy, rendering it unusable, and moving on to a new one, pretending the screwup never happened.
Please. Of course Shepard was named after Alan Shepard, but you seriously don't see double meaning to his name? You were practically bashed over the head with the savior thing throughout the trilogy. And religious themes are pervasive throughout all three games.
He is basically space Jesus. He has much in common with him. Except Shepard's fictitious story is slightly more believable than Jesus'.
He wasn't Space Jesus until they thought it was a good idea to kill off the protagonist a the start of the second volume of the trilogy.
And even then he was still largely an action hero, cheesy one-liners at all.
It wasn't until ME3 and Shepard got all emo (paragon Shep, anyway) that we get the whole "The Shepard must die for our sins"
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