Garrus and Shepard are experience wise mid 30s I guess. Liara is like 18 in human years it seems.
Shepard is 27 in ME1. Even counting the years being dead Shepard is 30 in ME3.
Garrus and Shepard are experience wise mid 30s I guess. Liara is like 18 in human years it seems.
Shepard born April 11 2154
Shepard is 29 in ME1, 32 in ME3.
According to Patrick Weekes Garrus is 2-4 years younger than Shepard.
I like em grizzled, old and experienced, like an old bear covered in scars that refuses to die.
Yes, they should definitely add some of those bears you speak of.
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from the perspective of someone several years out of his teenage life I have to say the majority of teenagers are angsty. its just different kinds of angst. the teens you don't think are angsty are just better at hiding it.
from the perspective of someone several years out of his teenage life I have to say the majority of teenagers are angsty. its just different kinds of angst. the teens you don't think are angsty are just better at hiding it.
Define Angst broadly enough and everyone is angsty.
Personally I've always identified more with people above my age range than my actual peers. Being that I'm in my mid twenties, I'd like to see the human cast be primarily in their mid thirties.
Related not, if we have an asari squadmate, I'd like her to be in the matron phase. We've had a maiden(Liara) and a matriarch(Samara), so complete the trinity there.
Actually come to think of it, both pairs of long lived squadmates we've had have been at either extreme, with Wrex and Samara being around a thousand and Liara being a maiden and Grunt having just been born.
So, wouldn't mind seeing some more middle ground in that department, though I don't know that it'll have as much of an effect on a krogan's outlook as it does an asari's.
Personally I've always identified more with people above my age range than my actual peers. Being that I'm in my mid twenties, I'd like to see the human cast be primarily in their mid thirties.
Related not, if we have an asari squadmate, I'd like her to be in the matron phase. We've had a maiden(Liara) and a matriarch(Samara), so complete the trinity there.
Actually come to think of it, both pairs of long lived squadmates we've had have been at either extreme, with Wrex and Samara being around a thousand and Liara being a maiden and Grunt having just been born.
So, wouldn't mind seeing some more middle ground in that department, though I don't know that it'll have as much of an effect on a krogan's outlook as it does an asari's.
Yeah I don't think we'll ever have an Asari squad mate in her matron stage law wise they don't tend to leave their home world and fan wise can you imagine the uproar that would create. Would be interesting nonetheless.
Well, given that we're leaving the home galaxy, I don't see that as being a problem here. If anything, that could be part of what makes the character interesting; someone who'd normally be settled down with a family right now being uprooted and forced into action by the war.
Yeah I don't think we'll ever have an Asari squad mate in her matron stage law wise they don't tend to leave their home world and fan wise can you imagine the uproar that would create. Would be interesting nonetheless.
She wouldn't have been in her Matron stage when the ARK left if it's travelling relativistically...
Id prefer if my companions are characters that feels like they are people that have left their puberty properly, I wouldn't object against the inclusion of people like Sera, as long as I have the option to either not recruit them or kick em out.
Age range, but nobody too young, unless they happen to be weird alien young like Liara.
One of the reasons I latched onto Bioware games was that it wasn't a bunch of 15 year olds and their 19 year old university professors saving the world (which is what I was primarily playing way back when). I still find the whole thing distasteful. Give me a cast of early thirty somethings getting things done with some grizzled veterans.
I think a balance is important but a problem they can run in to with a younger character is just turning them into an Information Kiosk because they don't really have a story to tell. Tali comes to mind, even Alistair to a point, his stories with the Grey Wardens consisted of licking gravy and some guy who likes to drink. Making Alistair a few years older and he becomes an efficient darkspawn killing machine and hunter of dangerous malificar.
For the main PC, ME: A does not lend itself to a young cast (unless you try for a very different style).
For example, a different game could go the way of a merc brat whose entire "family" was destroyed or it could be an academy under attack and the main protaganist could be a student. Ender's game style is another method.
However for ME:A, if the mission is truly an ark ship, then the way you could do a main protag of a young age would be if the command structure was destroyed and all command personnel dead while the contingency system woke up a young person in cryo instead of the next command staff. This would not work for ME:A for relatively obvious reasons
As for companions, any companion of a young age (in human terms) would be prohibited from exiting the security of the ship as all would not be fully trained. You could get "young" aliens like Liara at 106 but thats not really "young" (though the writers could always write them based on a human child). A mission could involve some kind of escort for a young savant but any overly young person would not make sense as a long term companion.
Now JRPGs would fit the entire young protag better as a number of its stories are based on "gifted" youngsters
They could all be literal 10 year olds. And the romances would be about holding hands and maybe, just maybe. hugging.
I'd like a range of ages, though generally I like the protag to be around 30. (25-35 something like that.)
No need to mock Final Fantasy. At its best it had admirable age range, for example Cyan, Cid Highwind, Auron and Tellah were as adults as adult can be. FF8 had a cast made of nothing but about 18 years old kids - and that game mysteriously never received sequels and compilations even if it would had been the one with most room left for expanding.
Out of the younger FF characters my faves are probably Yuffie and Eiko. Neither acts particularly angstily or too eagerly like oh boy I'm gonna be a hero. They're still allowed to be their age.
Many modern jrpgs are targetted for young players (while trusting in possible older gamers playing along for nostalgia's sake) and I for one found Bioware games very refreshing after all that, and so far I'm not getting bored yet. Many games are made by grownups, so they want to add some winks for older players, like side characters who have their own stories told in between lines, or main cast does something that's funny for older audience but is taken seriously by teenagers. (If you want youthful games I guess I'd recommend Star Ocean and some titles from Tales Of, and for more or less flexible grownups there are titles from Shin Megami Tensei and Persona series, though Persona spinoffs pander to the young side.)
I think Dragon Age would actually be a better place for motley crew of different ages. In Mass Effect your best bet of getting a teenager aboard might be an alien from different culture, like happened with Tali apparently, I didn't realise her to be that young at first. Young newcomer in middle of the veterans could be relatable for younger players, and for older players because everyone has been in that position at some point. They'd have to earn their place in space, so they'd hardly get openly that angsty. Too bad it didn't go well for Jenkins.
Grunt was youngest, don't you think.
Anyway I think crews with differently aged characters are usually most interesting and welcoming ones. Different experiences make their views and banter more variable, and on the other hand it's sweet when people from different generations can find something they both can like about the era they live in.
Shepard is 29 in ME1, 32 in ME3.
According to Patrick Weekes Garrus is 2-4 years younger than Shepard.
The hell? I thought Garrus was in his mid 30s.
The hell? I thought Garrus was in his mid 30s.
Me too. That's weeeeeeeeird. I don't know why I think it's so weird, but I do.
Dorian is also apparently like 10 years older than I thought he was though, so I guess I don't know anything.
Ages were never take properly handled in the trilog, according the lore the average human can easily become 120 earth years old with some reaching up to 150. However they never bother explaining the social implication, in fact we don't often encouter people who is above the sixty earth years old. Yet when we do they allready appear to be physically declining. If you ask me they should have ditched the 150 year things and settle for the more belivable 110-120.
When I saw the title of this thread my first thought was, "Are they asking for kids on the squad now?" ... I'm both glad and disappointed this wasn't the case. ![]()
I wouldn't mind the CC being able to give you a character that looks younger or older between 20 and 39.
I don't really want the age mentioned in the game, unless there is a reason. When I play a game I usually have the age set in my mind, like in DAO my mage was younger than my human noble and my elves were both in their middle 20's.
ME gave Shepards birth date and 29 made sense to me, since she had worked her way up in the military.
Me too. That's weeeeeeeeird. I don't know why I think it's so weird, but I do.
Dorian is also apparently like 10 years older than I thought he was though, so I guess I don't know anything.
His writer (Patrick Weekes) pegs him as 2-4 years younger than Shepard. So, if Shepard was 30 in ME1 (it's a nice round number,) he would have been 26-28 years old.
On topic: So far, the DA and the ME games have had an average age of about 35, with some younger and some older. That's a nice middle ground for me. I don't mind the "teenagers saving the world" games. I still play a lot of those, but for BioWare games, I prefer having a cast closer to my age. ![]()
Personally I wouldn't mind a kid in the team, boy or girl, I was a fan of Mission in KOTOR, And having kids wonder around in the game seems a lot more normal. However, I'm happy without them on the team also.
But I'd actually like most of the group to be optional. Recruit them or leave them.
Personally I wouldn't mind a kid in the team, boy or girl, I was a fan of Mission in KOTOR, And having kids wonder around in the game seems a lot more normal. However, I'm happy without them on the team also.
But I'd actually like most of the group to be optional. Recruit them or leave them.
If we have more than like, 7 or 8 squad members, then yeah - I can't overemphasize this.
If it's 7 or fewer (my preference) I'm OK with keeping everyone around, barring a dramatic Virmire.
But ME2 and pretty much all the DA games - way too big without the ability to cull them (which, to their credit, we can do in DA). Booting (or just neglecting to pick up) someone who doesn't gel with the sort of character you might be playing is a gratifying opportunity for roleplaying as well, in my view.
Personally I wouldn't mind a kid in the team, boy or girl, I was a fan of Mission in KOTOR, And having kids wonder around in the game seems a lot more normal. However, I'm happy without them on the team also.
But I'd actually like most of the group to be optional. Recruit them or leave them.
Mission was more a teenager.
Usually you only have kids on the team when they are incredibly powerful or total badasses. Or if your commanding officer tells you to look after his favourite niece. ![]()
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