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MP should "Effect" SP (just not story content for the most part)


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#51
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MP needs an adult mode before it should even be considered as part of the game.  I tried it once, before the match some kid started squealing through my TV(no xbox mic), turned it off and never looked back.(I also happened to finish Mass Effect 3 around the same time, so obviously ending turned me off at same time)

 

Fix that problem BioWare and you can have MP in my SP game.

 

Also for the record, this thread is confusing, TC seems to have taking the gimmick of a hardcore competitive gamer, but Mass Effect 3 MP, is not a competitive game as you're still only playing against AI.  AI that is no more difficult than SP AI.  The only difference is, TC can get carried in MP but not in SP.

 

I was a hardcore competitive gamer back when it was actually a thing and not a bunch of cod garbage seeing the OTHER team on your radar and a contest to see who can get the spawn trap off first while people die from toe shots......I don't care about that stuff anymore.  I just want Mass Effect MP to be the best it can be without anything SP holding it back including budgets and manpower.

 

Also mute and/or kick squeakers and your problem is solved.



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Nightmare is the most "challenging" difficulty level only in the DA series, in ME it's called Insanity, nice try though.

 

OH NOES!!! PWNed!

 

I also think MP should only be unlocked after you write and submit to Bioware a 500 word MEA fanfic featuring a torrid romance between two major characters, participate in at least 50 romance threads on BSN, and be able to expound on the socio-political implications of revealing clothing on female characters.

 

Put that in your proverbial pipe and smoke it.



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That's a rather funny ideal, since that means two price tags instead of one for those who, by some fluke of the universe, actually like to play both.

 

What I'd like to see is MP be a separate game, but included for free (bundled download code?) with the SP game.  The main reason: the ability to install the MP client digitally even if you've got SP on optical media, because: it's my understanding that typical SP players tend to play the campaign from start to finish, but MP players tend to pay a match here and there mixed in with other activities.


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I agree. The war asset thing was a little silly, it'd be cool if there was a more direct and tangible (massive, even?) effect on the SP portion. 



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I think its a GREAT idea.  I'm angry my post doesn't have more "likes" to tell the truth.

 

I personally think it's awful, and that this game shouldn't have MP be this huge factor where players who repeatedly beat down on other players get the best perks forever. As for PvP? No, never, apparently you have no idea what the hell Bioware games are about. Besides, how the hell would PvP make sense for this game?


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I don't know what MP did you as a child or why you hate us, but these are good ideas.  We are not intruding on SP, but getting the recognition we deserve at the same time.  MP people put MANY hours into the games and really breath life into it.  As a fan, one should be proud of that. 

 

I'm sure you tried the MP and got ridiculed off of it, but thats not our fault.   Everyone is a noob at something sometime.  You just have to have the fortitude to power through it and hit beast mode vs curl up in a corner.  MP is here to stay and because of that it is time for it to start making its way into the SP.  I would bet as a whole thousands and thousands and thousands of more hours have been spent in the MP than have in the SP.  That means a lot.

 

In the eternal words of the Spice Girls.  "Cause tonight is the niiiiiight...when two become one.....baaaabyyyyyyyyyyy."

No, I loved MP in ME3, I just don't want it intruding that much into my SP. As for recognition, you don't DESERVE anything, you CHOOSE to play the hardest difficulties, and you get rewards for it in MP, that's more than enough. 


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I personally think it's awful, and that this game shouldn't have MP be this huge factor where players who repeatedly beat down on other players get the best perks forever. As for PvP? No, never, apparently you have no idea what the hell Bioware games are about. Besides, how the hell would PvP make sense for this game?

 

It could if they allowed players to be either one of the "good" races, or one of the "bad" races.



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Curious.  You gained some man points with me by playing MP.  Lost them right after you said you spend more time in SP than you do MP.  That's insane.

 

If you saw the girl I hit while one of their songs was on you would give my man card back.  It only took me 1 day to fully romance her too.  Ashley nothing.  Shes too selfish with her body.  We have needs.  MP characters give it up right away as they know you both need it and it clears your head so you can focus and be more combat effective.  To each their own I guess. 

 

When Bioware adds the sexual beast romance only option you will see a higher SP effectiveness by MP gamers as well.  If thats even possible to be any better than we already are.

 

We don't give a **** about whatever imaginary girl you come up with :P

You're not impressing anybody, you're just making a fool of yourself with **** like your "man card."


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It could if they allowed players to be either one of the "good" races, or one of the "bad" races.

 

I know that would make sense, but if they had PvP work like that, then how would our good SP characters get resources from winning then?



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What I'd like to see is MP be a separate game, but included for free (bundled download code?) with the SP game.  The main reason: the ability to install the MP client digitally even if you've got SP on optical media, because: it's my understanding that typical SP players tend to play the campaign from start to finish, but MP players tend to pay a match here and there mixed in with other activities.


I don't really see the problem this is intended to solve. Then again, I don't see how optical media have value anymore in the first place.
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OH NOES!!! PWNed!

 

I also think MP should only be unlocked after you write and submit to Bioware a 500 word MEA fanfic featuring a torrid romance between two major characters, participate in at least 50 romance threads on BSN, and being able to expound on the socio-political implications of revealing clothing on female characters.

 

Put that in your proverbial pipe and smoke it.

All those things are undesirable in singleplayer as well as society at large, so why should they be required? Biower had to waste time and resources explaining the smell of Tali's sweat in SP that could have gone to other things because of weirdos that do things such as that.

There are actual, ingame MP achievements for completing a Plat solo as Mr. Bateman mentioned, so it is already developer approved activity. Moreover, it socially elevates you above your peers due to your superior ability, not gets you (rightfully) put in a mental asylum.

He's doing to your arguments what he did to Paul Allen

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No, I loved MP in ME3, I just don't want it intruding that much into my SP. As for recognition, you don't DESERVE anything, you CHOOSE to play the hardest difficulties, and you get rewards for it in MP, that's more than enough. 

 

Why don't I deserve anything? What is the reason.  Personally I feel like there should be some type of award like companies have an "employee of the month" for people that appreciate their games and really support the company the best they can.

 

It's a game....its not like its a major deal or something huge to ask.  It's realistic and should be done.  MP gamers deserve rewards in MP AND SP.



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If I am playing on the highest levels of MP and doing well then my skill level is pretty high.  As a reward for that as well as having the stones to take on the hardest difficulty the game has to offer I should get rewards to carry over if I ever choose to play through the story once or twice.  I have some suggestions.

 

1.  If we are just a random military person we should be getting a paycheck yes?  We should get additional money every pay period for being elite over just your run of the mill squads.  Quality over quantity.

 

2.  There should be romance options that are only impressed with the top tier of sexual beasts.  Holding a leader board spot will really get their attention.

 

3.  Some of the unique abilities or items that MP holds should be able to be transferred to SP as an elite soldier and someone that has used and mastered challenges associated with them in the MP.  These challenges should be difficult to complete.

 

4.  If there is PVP we should be able to take the loot of other players as we have our way with their corpse.

 

5.  We should be able to call in support from MP characters who are leveled up as a nod to the best of the best to help through SP battles and give them some intense flavor.  Also say hi to our favorite characters while we are not playing them.

 

I have some counteroffers, I think they are more fitting to someone with your level of "skill".

 

1) The best you perform in MP your gear/weapon/abilities get nerfed up to the point that when you're at the top of the MP ladder it is practically impossible to overcome the challenges of the tutorial fight in the SP story, and then you spend hours and hours dying for unknown reasons in what the "casuals" overcome in the first 10 minutes of the game, also your playthrough skips automatically all cutscenes, decisions, dialogues, romances, etc and you reach a default ending. These are the reasons why someone would play the SP campaign isn't it? Why that would ever appeal someone as good as you are?

 

2) When you reach the top of the MP ladder you get a coupon to play the MP shooter franchise of your preference for free, either "Call of Duty" or "Destiny" or "Halo", etc.  and your ME game is locked until you reach the top of the ladder in these games as well. That would be a challenge fitting of your skill. Who is going to waste time playing a story-based game anyway?

 

I think that you would support my proposal



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OH NOES!!! PWNed!

 

I also think MP should only be unlocked after you write and submit to Bioware a 500 word MEA fanfic featuring a torrid romance between two major characters, participate in at least 50 romance threads on BSN, and be able to expound on the socio-political implications of revealing clothing on female characters.

 

Put that in your proverbial pipe and smoke it.

Not even pure SP (well, at least the extreme majority of the playerbase) people would be willing to do that in the first place, which just goes to show how stupid it is as an argument.

 

I think the real problem here is that even if these hypothetical bonuses for MP in SP are completely non consequential, people that do not want to play MP will feel penalized by its very existence, even if its something as innocent as a weapon skin or some extra credits, is that correct?


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I have some counteroffers, I think they are more fitting to someone with your level of "skill".

 

1) The best you perform in MP your gear/weapon/abilities get nerfed up to the point that when you're at the top of the MP ladder it is practically impossible to overcome the challenges of the tutorial fight in the SP story, and then you spend hours and hours dying for unknown reasons in what the "casuals" overcome in the first 10 minutes of the game, also your playthrough skips automatically all cutscenes, decisions, dialogues, romances, etc and you reach a default ending. These are the reasons why someone would play the SP campaign isn't it? Why that would ever appeal someone as good as you are?

 

2) When you reach the top of the MP ladder you get a coupon to play the MP shooter franchise of your preference for free, either "Call of Duty" or "Destiny" or "Halo", etc.  and your ME game is locked until you reach the top of the ladder in these games as well. That would be a challenge fitting of your skill. Who is going to waste time playing a story-based game anyway?

 

I think that you would support my proposal

 

I won't be like these SP gamers and tell you that your ideas are terrible.  I will say if I wanted to play "Call of Duty" "Destiny" or "Halo" I would be playing those games and be on their forums and not here.


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I don't really see the problem this is intended to solve. Then again, I don't see how optical media have value anymore in the first place.

 

I was thinking of two things it would help with:

  1. The people who only care about MP could just buy the MP component without buying the main game, spending less money and ignoring the SP.
  2. Folks who do see value in optical media could jump into MP matches whenever they want without hunting for the disc.


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I find it telling the way MP is characterized as "work" that they think they should be rewarded for. If you want work, get a job. Video games are entertainment. Being entertained is its own reward.

Clearly multiplayer isn't very entertaining or you wouldn't need or want additional rewards.
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No. MP should not even be in ME At all.

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I find it telling the way MP is characterize it as "work" that they think they should be rewarded for. If you want work, get a job. Video games are entertainment. Being entertained is its own reward.

Clearly multiplayer isn't very entertaining or you wouldn't need or want additional rewards.

 

Or maybe he finds these rewards cool, and having them tied to MP should be pretty much harmless?


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I find it telling the way MP is characterize it as "work" that they think they should be rewarded for. If you want work, get a job. Video games are entertainment. Being entertained is its own reward.

Clearly multiplayer isn't very entertaining or you wouldn't need or want additional rewards.

 

You're making stuff up.  No one said playing video games was work.



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I find it telling the way MP is characterize it as "work" that they think they should be rewarded for. If you want work, get a job. Video games are entertainment. Being entertained is its own reward.

Clearly multiplayer isn't very entertaining or you wouldn't need or want additional rewards.

"Work" isn't used in the OP, that's just you projecting what you think it is. Namely If it isn't work, than so many SP babbies wouldn't have drowned the internet in a flood of tears when they had to play (read: join and go AFK) a few 15 minute bronze matches before doing Priority: Earth for the first few months of ME3, if they wanted to get an easter egg in an ending that a lot of them cried about anyway. 


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You're making stuff up.  No one said playing video games was work.

 

Why are you asking for "rewards" then? Is not having fun doing what you like a reward by itself?



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Why are you asking for "rewards" then? Is not having fun doing what you like a reward by itself?

 

It's always good to acknowledge those that are more dedicated.  It will add more to the game and is very fitting in the military service the game offers.



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It's always good to acknowledge those that are more dedicated.  It will add more to the game and is very fitting in the military service the game offers.

 

Wow, I've been playing Mass Effect and I didn't know I was fulfilling my duty with my Country, I want my purple heart now... 



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Why are you asking for "rewards" then? Is not having fun doing what you like a reward by itself?

Some people find enjoyment in earning things, its a weird thing I know, the mind boggles at the thought of it.


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