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[Grieving Natashina]

No thank you.  I wouldn't rage if BioWare decided to go that route, I'd just skip the game.  

[AresKeith]

If MP would "effect" the SP, the only way I'd want it is to see the MP characters show up

[FNX Finest]

Wow, I've been playing Mass Effect and I didn't know I was fulfilling my duty with my Country, I want my purple heart now... 

 

You sound kind of bitter.  Is everything ok over there?  In MP you can take out your aggressions on as many enemies as you want.  It's more refreshing than going to the same place, fighting the same enemies, in the same spots, doing the same things, over and over and over.

[Annos Basin]

If you're asking for something that makes SP more fun or smoother to play, shouldn't such content benefit as much or most the players who only play SP?

 

I'm not even certain where satire ends and what people actually think begins with some comments. Wishes of getting your own specific playing style rewarded are of course rather typical kind of wishes, in all seriousness.

 

There's the danger of making SP seem lacking somehow if MP isn't played. Good ideas make stuff more appealing and don't turn some of your stuff unappealing.

 

SP and MP as separately sold games would minimize possible compromises and patches for MP that cause weird eyeroll bugs and such in SP. I don't know why they haven't been separated as different sister games already (I don't have professional info on selling games, alas), since rpg are so different experiences from action or party games, there's not so much room for sharing your story with everyone, but world would easily be large and interesting enough for more games. I just fear there might end up being more content sharing between two games (like in some Pokemons apparently) than between SP and MP of a one game, to attract more people to buy both titles.

 

I might try out MP if I'll have time for that and it seems like fun when MEA will be released. Wishing I can first play my SP without ever paying attention to MP. I just don't think they mix well. Hopefully both will be fun and run suavely on their own.

[Little Princess Peach]

I don't like it I dislike mp and having mp effect romance options would really ****** me off I'm not speaking for other players we are all diffrent

[MoonblaDAI]

You sound kind of bitter.  Is everything ok over there?  In MP you can take out your aggressions on as many enemies as you want.  It's more refreshing than going to the same place, fighting the same enemies, in the same spots, doing the same things, over and over and over.

Bitter? Me? nah...if you want bitterness, go to http://forum.bioware...t-bitter-about/

 

You're are the one who seems bitter for not being properly "rewarded" based your "dedication" to the game, you're the one craving to be "different', who needs a way to let the rest of the mortals to be aware of your awesomeness and want them to drool in envy. If that is not what you're looking for, then why do you care what the rest of the players get in their own personal universe when doing SP?

[FNX Finest]

Bitter? Me? nah...if you want bitterness, go to http://forum.bioware...t-bitter-about/

 

You're are the one who seems bitter for not being properly "rewarded" based your "dedication" to the game, you're the one craving to be "different', who needs a way to let the rest of the mortals to be aware your awesomeness and want them to drool in envy. If that is not what you're looking for, then why do you care what the rest of the players get in their own personal universe when doing SP?

 

I'm not bitter.  It's just unjustified the hate and comments MP people receive on this forum from SP gamers.  Especially when MP gamers put much more time and effort into the game.  Also the unappreciative rage from the SP gamers and the love and acceptance from the MP side.  Not "me", but MP gamers as a whole should be a little nod because of this and being skilled at the game.

 

I don't care about how anyone sees me or if they envy me.  I want the best game and experience I can get. Period.  This is why some of the money and resources devoted to SP need to be diverted to the MP.  EVERYONE has the opportunity to play the MP if they wanted these great additions to the game.  If they choose to not get them then that is their choice.  There is no reason to be jealous of something you can just as easily get yourself.  They are bonuses and additions to the game that are no different than "pre order bonuses" and I don't hear people crying about that.

 

MP gamers give the love and should get the love. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

I'm not bitter. It's just unjustified the hate and comments MP people receive on this forum from SP gamers. Especially when MP gamers put much more time and effort into the game.

I am indifferent to MP gamers as long as they don't try to mess with the SP game.

Why does your time and effort matter? If you paid extra, I could see you demanding extra.

[RedLens37]

I thoroughly enjoyed both ME3 multiplayer and single player modes, but a good degree of separation between the two is good in my opinion. Some subtle carryover here and there between the two is fine--this was awesome, but one having any real effect on the other is unnecessary.

 

I see them as two completely separate games which should have a pretty good sized wall between them. I don't need single player lore putting restrictions on my shoot-em-up time in multiplayer. And, I don't want my deeds in any other game, even a closely-tied multiplayer component, having a measurable effect on the story of my single player character(s).

[dfjdejulio]

Or maybe he finds these rewards cool, and having them tied to MP should be pretty much harmless?

 

It is not harmless unless there's also a non-MP way to obtain the same rewards.  Otherwise it risks alienating the SP player base (which for BioWare games is usually considerably larger than the MP player base).

[styxtyde]

Yeah good idea.  Give the characters we know and love cameos in the SP.

This would actually be pretty cool. Maybe they commune at a base camp, training facility or station.

 

EDIT: But only if it absolutely made sense to do so and doesn't break immersion.

[Wulfram]

I think it could be cool to use some of your MP character appearances as allied mooks occasionally. With non MP players getting defaults.

But I'm very suspicious after what went on in ME3. And fundamentally I don't want to play MP while I'm playing SP, it distracts from the story. And I don't want to play it before SP, because playing SP helps me not suck at the game. I want to play MP after SP.

[Annos Basin]

EVERYONE has the opportunity to play the MP if they wanted these great additions to the game.  If they choose to not get them then that is their choice.  There is no reason to be jealous of something you can just as easily get yourself.

 

If you could play MP offline. You can attach up to 4 controllers on PS4 at once, you know... Rare households probably own several controllers at this point, but playing (preferably co-op) with one good buddy tends to be fun...

 

However I doubt it's a good idea to urge people play something they won't enjoy. If it's a game with a strong story, some people won't like something they consider detached getting attached to it. If you know Chrono Trigger, it was a game that made a point of making all side quests useful or part of the bigger picture somehow (at least in comparison at the time), and new dungeons in DS version, which consumed lots of time but brought nothing to the table, got infamous for fighting such nice principle. Some players might feel the same way about MP, at least if they're "pressured" to go for it with too tasty carrot. I don't know if it'd be about love at that point.

 

I still say it should be all about SP and MP being as complete as they can, on their own.

 

I'd prefer to show my devotion with buying dlc actually. Costume packs can be cool.~ Time just always appears to be more sparse than money no matter what (even if I'm a person who hasn't even bought their PS4 yet).

[AlanC9]

 

I'm not even certain where satire ends and what people actually think begins with some comments. Wishes of getting your own specific playing style rewarded are of course rather typical kind of wishes, in all seriousness.

 

Yeah, I've gone to a policy of treating all proposals as totally serious unless I know the poster. It's become impossible to sort out the insanity from the satire here.

[AlanC9]

I'm not bitter.  It's just unjustified the hate and comments MP people receive on this forum from SP gamers.  Especially when MP gamers put much more time and effort into the game.  Also the unappreciative rage from the SP gamers and the love and acceptance from the MP side.  Not "me", but MP gamers as a whole should be a little nod because of this and being skilled at the game.
 
I don't care about how anyone sees me or if they envy me.

Wait a minute. Why would anyone envy you? Why would anyone give a damn one way or another about you?
 

I want the best game and experience I can get. Period.  This is why some of the money and resources devoted to SP need to be diverted to the MP.

SP gamers want that too. We can get that by giving you nothing, so that's what we're advocating.

[MoonblaDAI]

Wait a minute. Why would anyone envy you? Why would anyone give a damn one way or another about you?
 

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In all my experience in MP in different settings there is a prevalent mentality of "High School Popularity Contests" where they are obsessed with rewards (mounts, weapons, gear, titles, etc) that they can shove to the rest of the community of MP, that care about it, to prove how "skilled" and "dedicated" they are and raise their stand into these communities. They walk around the different hubs like peacocks covered in glittering pixels expecting (and in some unfortunate cases receiving) praise from the rest of the members, they are the ones looked for, people crave to meet them, to call them "friends" and to be in their "elite group". It is how they "work" and for what they "work" so hard.

[FNX Finest]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

**drops mic**

[madrar]

 

2.  There should be romance options that are only impressed with the top tier of sexual beasts.  Holding a leader board spot will really get their attention.

 

...wow.  You're literally asking for someone to stroke your e-Peen.

 

That may be the strongest argument for strict separation between SP and MP I've seen yet.  Please Bioware, do not force me to play with people like this.

[rashie]

It never ceases to amuse me how people on this board have trouble identifying such obvious satire.

[MoonblaDAI]

Funny story is that I am not against MP per se. It seems that going there with a group of friends and defeat the encounters is definitely a fun way to spend a couple of hours, regardless of how challenging BW decide these encounters to be. But then, there are ladders, and there are PuGs and people in these PuGs saying: "your (grammar mistake on purpose) not as good as I am, ur (again, on purpose) rank is not high enough, go away noob! Noobs should not be playing this game!", without even giving the chance to a new player to learn the ropes.

 

ME:A MP would be perfect if there are no ladders, no recognition, no PuGs, only premade groups made by friends, with no one outside the group knowing the results of the match. Make the encounters hard! I'm not afraid of it, but make people play games for the right reasons (having fun) not the wrong ones (showing off how l33t u r)

[Geth Supremacy]

I hope they leave this forum like this forever.

[trevelyan_shep]

I'd probably not buy another Bioware game again if they were to ever implement such choices into their games. 

[mickey111]

I'm not sure if this is satire or sincere...

[tatann]

I don't see how they could do PvP, so many of the powers would be completely OP in a PvP setting. I seriously doubt that it would ever work.

DE managed to do it with Warframe, and this game have powers more OP than 10 Dark Spheres with 0.3 seconds cooldown.
But I also hope for no PvP.
And also no relations between SP and MP. I loved ME3 MP (800 hours spent on it) but people should be able to get the full SP experience without having to play MP

[Heathen Oxman]

All those things are undesirable in singleplayer as well as society at large, so why should they be required? Biower had to waste time and resources explaining the smell of Tali's sweat in SP that could have gone to other things because of weirdos that do things such as that.

There are actual, ingame MP achievements for completing a Plat solo as Mr. Bateman mentioned, so it is already developer approved activity. Moreover, it socially elevates you above your peers due to your superior ability, not gets you (rightfully) put in a mental asylum.

He's doing to your arguments what he did to Paul Allen

 

 

Nope.

 

A TRUE ME gamer denounces all of their social contacts in favor of squadmates and LI romance options.

 

A TRUE ME gamer doesn't eat, sleep, or bathe until every last line of dialogue, for every single character, in every single scenario is exhausted. 

 

A TRUE ME gamer can be measured by their glassy stare and massive pit stains from all the hours spent sitting in front of the TV exploring every possible variation of every possible story option on SP mode.

 

That's why MP players will never triumph over SP players: finesse and skill will NEVER win over unbridled insanity.

 

SUCK IT!!!!!!