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The Carnifex by the numbers nerf. Hate this kind of BioWare balancing.


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It only got nerfed because it was so popular. Yet it was perfectly balanced before. 

 

Yet all the other way more garbage & OP things in this game still live in the long run. Why I think BioWare did wrong going the lazy by the number balancing act route, since fads come and go as players learn the game better. Plus as long as it's balanced, who cares if it's popular. Let players enjoy it. Why it's important BioWare figure out their own game and start doing things right for the next MEmp.

 

 

- Same reason why grenade capacity was introduced. New pugs don't like using nades because not enough nades. So BioWare introduced this typical lame solution in nade capacity to balance the player stat numbers out. Yet once folks learn the game, they learn nades are the most OP and broken things in the game.

 

- New pugs don't like the Harrier because it runs out of ammo, and why they actually prefer something like Geth Pulse Rifle over it. I kid not. I heard new pugs say this all the time (and that GPSMG is more OP then Hurricane + argued with me, lol to that pug. Made my day for sure). Plus see new pugs using the GPR all the time. Plus the player stats BioWare showed once on GPR showed it near the top of the list to back me up on this. As well as a bunch of other weird choices.

 

 

 

AND HERE ARE THE NUMBERS;

 

http://forum.bioware...gameplay-stats/

 

15 Most Played Kits (All Difficulties)

1. Geth Juggernaut (7.53%)
2. N7 Destroyer (3.97%)
3. Human Soldier (male and female combined) (3.20%)
4. Human Engineer (male and female combined) (2.97%)
5. Krogan Warlord (2.94%)
6. Alliance Infiltration Unit (2.86%)
7. N7 Shadow (2.78%)
8. Human Vanguard (male and female combined) (2.75%)
9. Talon Mercenary (2.73%)
10. Collector Adept (2.56%)
11. N7 Fury (2.43%)
12. Turian Ghost (2.41%)
13. Geth Trooper (2.34%)
14. N7 Slayer (2.33%)
15. Human Adept (male and female combined) (2.34%)

15 Most Played Kits (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Geth Juggernaut (11.81%)
2. N7 Destroyer (5.47%)
3. Turian Ghost (4.38%)
4. Alliance Infiltration Unit (4.28%)
5. Geth Trooper (4.11%)
6. Krogan Warlord (3.01%)
7. N7 Paladin (2.83%)
8. Collector Adept (2.74%)
9. N7 Fury (2.67%)
10. N7 Shadow (2.63%)
11. Geth Infiltrator (2.62%)
12. Talon Mercenary (2.52%)
13. N7 Demolisher (2.24%)
14. Asari Huntress (1.99%)
15. N7 Slayer (1.98%)

10 Least Played Kits (All Difficulties)

1. Volus Protector Vanguard (0.40%)
2. Volus Mercenary Sentinel (0.44%)
3. Drell Vanguard (0.59%)
4. Batarian Slasher Adept (0.61%)
5. Male Quarian Marksman Soldier (0.61%)
6. Vorcha Hunter Engineer (0.67%)
7. Volus Adept (0.70%)
8. Volus Engineer (0.81%)
9. Male Quarian Engineer (0.81%)
10. Batarian Brawler Vanguard (0.82%)

10 Least Played Kits (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Drell Vanguard (0.31%)
2. Battlefield 3 Soldier (0.36%)
3. Volus Protector Vanguard (0.40%)
4. Volus Mercenary Sentinel (0.50%)
5. Vorcha Hunter Engineer (0.53%)
6. Male Quarian Marksman Soldier (0.57%)
7. Human Sentinel (male and female combined) (0.60%)
8. Batarian Slasher Adept (0.62%)
9. Volus Adept (0.65%)
10. Human Infiltrator (male and female combined) (0.74%)

Breakdown by class (All Difficulties)

1. Soldier 28.3%
2. Engineer 16.7%
3. Sentinel 15.8%
4. Infiltrator 14.1%
5. Adept 13.1%
6. Vanguard 12.0%

Breakdown by class (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Soldier 31.9%
2. Infiltrator 16.0%
3. Sentinel 15.3%
4. Engineer 15.0%
5. Adept 13.8%
6. Vanguard 8.0%

15 Most Used Weapons (All Difficulties)

1. Avenger Assault Rifle (5.29%)
2. Hurricane SMG (4.65%)
3. Harrier Assault Rifle (3.95%)
4. Eagle Pistol (3.16%)
5. Predator Pistol (3.13%)
6. Mantis Sniper Rifle (3.08%)
7. Reegar Shotgun (3.02%)
8. Phaeston Assault Rifle (2.76%)
9. Acolyte Pistol (2.71%)
10. Shuriken SMG (2.53%)
11. Locust SMG (2.47%)
12. Geth Pulse Rifle (2.39%)
13. Geth SMG (2.33%)
14. Phalanx Pistol (2.19%)
15. Mattock Assault Rifle (2.15%)

15 Most Used Weapons (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Hurricane SMG (6.95%)
2. Harrier Assault Rifle (6.71%)
3. Acolyte Pistol (6.45%)
4. Reegar Shotgun (6.04%)
5. Piranha Shotgun (2.80%)
6. Geth Shotgun (2.62%)
7. Black Widow Sniper Rifle (2.62%)
8. Eagle Pistol (2.59%)
9. Geth SMG (2.46%)
10. Lancer Assault Rifle (2.33%)
11. Adas Assault Rifle (2.26%)
12. Talon Pistol (2.22%)
13. Wraith Shotgun (2.14%)
14. Collector SMG (2.01%)
15. Scorpion Pistol (1.88%)

10 Least Used Weapons (All Difficulties)

1. Venom Shotgun (0.35%)
2. Incisor Sniper Rifle (0.46%)
3. Collector Sniper Rifle (0.51%)
4. Falcon Assault Rifle (0.58%)
5. Kishock Sniper Rifle (0.60%)
6. Raider Shotgun (0.60%)
7. Krysae Sniper Rifle (0.66%)
8. Javelin Sniper Rifle (0.66%)
9. Scimitar Shotgun (0.68%)
10. Spitfire Assault Rifle (0.72%)

10 Least Used Weapons (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Incisor Sniper Rifle (0.23%)
2. Viper Sniper Rifle (0.32%)
3. Scimitar Shotgun (0.36%)
4. Vindicator Assault Rifle (0.39%)
5. Raptor Sniper Rifle (0.43%)
6. Venom Shotgun (0.46%)
7. Falcon Assault Rifle (0.47%)
8. Collector Sniper Rifle (0.54%)
9. Krysae Sniper Rifle (0.57%)
10. Argus Assault Rifle (0.61%)

Breakdown by difficulty

Bronze (46%)
Silver (33%)
Gold (18%)
Platinum (3%)

5 Most Played Maps (All Difficulties)

1. Firebase Dagger (13%)
2. Firebase White (13%)
3. Firebase Glacier (12%)
4. Firebase Giant (11%)
5. Firebase Hydra (6%)

5 Most Played Maps (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Firebase Glacier (15%)
2. Firebase White (15%)
3. Firebase Giant (13%)
4. Firebase Dagger (9%)
5. Firebase Rio (5%)

Some other interesting map statistics

- On Platinum difficulty, Firebase Rio is currently played 11% of the time (3rd place overall after Firebase Glacier and Firebase Giant)
- At its height, Firebase White was played 50% of the time on all difficulties, and 70% of the time on Gold and Platinum.

Completion Rate Per Faction & Difficulty

Out of all successful extractions against a given faction, the % of matches per difficulty.

- Cerberus: Bronze (47.0%), Silver (36.3%), Gold (13.3%), Platinum (3.2%)
- Geth: Bronze (37.4%), Silver (38.0%), Gold (22.2%), Platinum (2.4%)
- Reapers: Bronze (38.3%), Silver (35.7%), Gold (17.6%), Platinum (8.4%)
- Collectors: Bronze (43.9%), Silver (44.8%), Gold (8.7%), Platinum (2.6%)

Enemy Popularity (All Difficulties)

1. Cerberus (40.0%)
2. Reapers (28.0%)
3. Geth (27.0%)
4. Collectors (5.0%)

Enemy Popularity (Gold & Platinum)

1. Reapers (38.0%)
2. Geth (29.0%)
3. Cerberus (28.0%)
4. Collectors (5.0%)

Enemy Popularity (Platinum Only)

1. Reapers (52.0%)
2. Cerberus (21.0%)
3. Geth (15.0%)
4. Collectors (12.0%) 


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Working as Intended™


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Working as Intended™

 

Yeah, as BioWare by the numbers Intended TM. Why I don't like it because it doesn't work. L2Balance, BioWare.



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I'm sure they'll get right on that.


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I'm not seeing any numbers in this thread.

 

Please lock, mods, it is clearly off-topic.


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QQ


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Olivia Wilde

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you promised numbers and didn't give us any, no like for you

 

and you've made me mad

 

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Didn't they finish buffing and nerfing this game 2 YEARS AGO?  I guess this topic is for complaining about stuff that is ancient history.

 

Man, they never should have made The Matrix into a trilogy.  It was so perfect.


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Didn't they finish buffing and nerfing this game 2 YEARS AGO?  I guess this topic is for complaining about stuff that is ancient history.

 

Man, they never should have made The Matrix into a trilogy.  It was so perfect.

 

Matrices 2 & 3 don't exist in my reality.


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Guys! Grills! I added the numbers in! Stop your crying already and keep it on topic. There are plenty of clowning around threads around here as is.



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Too late with the numbers....but, I'm in a nice mood have a pity like anyways


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Guys! Grills! I added the numbers in! Stop your crying already and keep it on topic. There are plenty of clowning around threads around here as is.

I must say I do love me some stats.  And it pains me that the Batguard is on the bottom of a list anywhere.  Are these stats viewable to the public or just BioWare employees?  I assume the latter but who knows?

 

Also, are these stats taken after all of the updates/balancing for the game?  I only started playing a year ago so I don't know the full timeline.

 

Dear god.  It says the Venom is the least used weapon.  I have lost all faith in humanity.



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Why isn't the MQE played more?! What's wrong with you people/quarians/Terminators?!

I DEMAND ANSWERS


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I'm surprised BioWare even left the Juggernaut as is considering how popular he was in that poll an their by the numbers game balancing.



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Why isn't the MQE played more?! What's wrong with you people/quarians/Terminators?!

I DEMAND ANSWERS

 

Hey, FQE is like my favourite kit. So don't blame Terminators.



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No Carnifex stats.

 

I am disappoint, son.


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I must say I do love me some stats.  And it pains me that the Batguard is on the bottom of a list anywhere.  Are these stats viewable to the public or just BioWare employees?  I assume the latter but who knows?

 

Also, are these stats taken after all of the updates/balancing for the game?  I only started playing a year ago so I don't know the full timeline.

 

Dear god.  It says the Venom is the least used weapon.  I have lost all faith in humanity.

 

I believe those stats were released around the time support for the game ended. The Venom had just recently been released, and was very misunderstood. I wish it still were.


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Nice necro. 


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No Carnifex stats.

 

I am disappoint, son.

 

It's widely known Carnifex was all the rage back in the days before the nerf that totally killed it's popularity.



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The Venom had just recently been released, and was very misunderstood. I wish it still were.

 

Yes, it was misunderstood and not popular at all, hence why BioWare gave it a buff. lol.

 

And don't even get me started at how crazy OP it is in SP (like rocket glitching). Plus you get it at the very start of the game too, lol. All proving BioWare can't balance their games at all.



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It's widely known Carnifex was all the rage back in the days before the nerf that totally killed it's popularity.

 

"Widely known" wont fly in my dissertation, and I wont accept it here either.

 

I want graphs.  Lots of them.  And stats.  And linear regression models accounting for all other possible variables.


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Wait, people don't like the Carniflex either? Am I the most unfashionable person playing this game?



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"Widely known" wont fly in my dissertation, and I wont accept it here either.

 

I want graphs.  Lots of them.  And stats.  And linear regression models accounting for all other possible variables.

 

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Hope that makes you happy. Took forever!

 

But yeah, clearly the Carnifex was way too popular, as you can now clearly see.


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As a mathematical expert accountant lazy accountant person who uses a calculator at work, I can confirm that the above figures are 100% correct and you all owe me money for this.


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Fucksake. Another goddamn alt account to put on ignore?


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