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How exactly would freedom work?


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#201
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All Divines declare support for the Inquisition as long as they are on good terms with the Inquisitor. The Inquisition does not appear to be an official military arm, instead it seems to be a friendly alliance.

The agreement with Leiliana about solidarity could work if the mages did agree to it. I can see a steeled!Leliana forcing the agreement to work, though I don't know how long things would last after her passing away.

You can believe whatever you want about the Inquisition. A ball of variables as big as the Inquisition cannot continue existing across installments.


Unless Bioware wants it to them it will logic be damned. Also, Vivienne never openly supports the Inquisition, she is only friends at high approval

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Unless Bioware wants it to them it will logic be damned. Also, Vivienne never openly supports the Inquisition, she is only friends at high approval

 

She's one of the first who openly support the Inquisition right from the start, even though she thought it'd benefit her stance.



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The Circle, hmm... I remember a certain quote(I looked it up before quoting it incorrectly)

“The Circle is a prison. You have choices... between joining and suffering various deaths of body or spirit.” ―Mouse

 

Fear is going to be the back breaker of freedom. No matter how many progressive or quasi-progressive reforms there are and will be, fear lurks in the crevices of the memory, like a tumour. Detected, recognized for what it is and can cause, but categorized as "benign" until it is no longer benign. How many kids go to "mandatory" schools with the freedom to go home and still skip class? How many go to secluded schools and still skip classes?

 

The moment a person develops an affinity to magic... the tumour rears it's head from being benign. It's there, like a hair-trigger. People or beings who developed an affinity to magic had never asked for it, but it happens. The circle(as far as I can see) was to help and encourage them be or become a part of the society that feared them. The chantry and it's templars should have been like a guardian or parent to the circle. Encouraging and helping, instead they nurtured and cultivated the fear, which metamorphosed into outright hate and prejudice(as if there isn't enough of prejudice already). The risk of an uncontrolled Mage or a Mage not in control are there, and real. A Mage overcoming the harrowing and considered "safe" to live amongst society going against his/her establishment are just as real, and pose the same risk.

 

Many fail to realise, Freedom means different things to different people. My opinion, Freedom is not a state in which one is placed due to rules and regulations or reform(as it may be). No, it is a state of mind. There is a saying, "Freedom is what you make of it". In Vendetta there was a statement I liked a lot, "An idea cannot be killed...", but I think it can be reformed. There are ways to sterilize the water in a bottle without emptying the bottle first. Either you sterilize the water(magic) before it is poured in, or you proceed to sterilize the water already in the bottle. Some may argue that sterilizing the bottle too would make sense. That may sound feasible but in the case of magic, not sound. Some develop an affinity at birth, others later.

 

I theorize that magic in itself is not corrupt. However, you can corrupt magic by way of education(Society, Chantry, Circle, Family, Personal experience). The thought should be, how do you teach Freedom, and not how it would work. This is just my theory(game lore theory) on this subject though.



#204
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...and perhaps mages would need to be registered once training is complete.

 

I dunno...  I'm seeing a Civil War scenario with enforced Registration.

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Honestly laissez-faire structure which encourages quality of life under voluntary participation is likelier to succeed in the long run; people just naturally gravitate towards self-interest that makes life easier, rather than trying and make things mandatory -which would cause a natural reaction of suspicion and resistance.

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Yes, it's in the Masked Empire. The Chevaliers were given booze and told the elves in this alienage have 'offended the lord or lady of Orlais.' They, or some of them suspected it might be just a made-up excuse but they went along with it anyway.

You're fudging the details a bit.  The tradition is an unofficial one practiced by some Chevaliers. 
 

Pasted from the Wikia.

In Orlais, an informal final test of a Chevalier's training involves roaming the streets, intoxicated, and testing one's blade by killing City elves.[18]

 



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You're fudging the details a bit.  The tradition is an unofficial one practiced by some Chevaliers. 
 
Pasted from the Wikia.


Unless it's directly quoted from the book, an ambiguous quote from the wiki is kinda open to interpretation. Plus, that quote doesn't say or imply only "some" Chevaliers take part that test. It just says informal. That could mean it's an unofficial final test that the Chevaliers are put through that isn't sanctioned by the powers that be.

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each major disaster in Thedas history was always started by a mage
At the time of Arlathan everyone were mages but i believe that they were watched constantly by their elven gods,Elgar'nan use to punish the elves who abused of their power,but in the Dragon age there are no gods,or such authority

Where are you getting your wonky information?!

 

Have you even looked at the history and wars of Thedas?  Let's just take a look at the Exalted Marches, almost ALL of which were caused by religious differences, not mages.

 

Blights are caused by Old Gods being tainted by darkspawn, not mages.

 

The fall of Elvahnan was caused by petty in-fighting.

 

The Golden City was already blackened when the Magisters got there.  So the Black CIty was NOT caused by mages breaching the city.

 

The Quanari Wars are most emphatically about politics and religion, NOT caused by mages.

 

The Ferelden-Orlesian War?  Not mages.

 

I'm scratching my head wondering how you can even make such sweeping claims and not bother to cite sources or do any research to back up your statements.


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