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I'm sure this has been spoken about before but as I'm fairly new to DA:I, I've not figured this out yet...

 

In the first few scenes of DA:I Leliana talks about her past association with the Hero and that he/she is off on a quest of his/her own.  From what I've read, if she was the romance interest of the Hero, she adds that she has no idea where he/she went.  Later we find out from Cassandra that she and Leliana were trying to find the Hero and make him/her the Inquisitor.  As they couldn't locate him/her, they next chose to seek out Hawke.

 

What I don't understand is if Leliana was such a close friend to the Hero (or also his/her lover), why would she have no idea where the Hero went?  It doesn't make much sense that the Hero would just walk away from a friend and/or lover without giving any idea where he/she is going.

 

Do you all think that BioWare will ever release a story update, DLC, or perhaps, a new DA game that covers what happened to the Hero of Ferelden?

 

This is the one area of the Dragon Age games that bothers me is that they all tend to follow an "end of the world" concept where we focus so much on our PC only to not really have their story answered.  BioWare teases that there is something else of vast importance going on but yet we never find out what it is.



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Its confirmed later on in a wartable mission where you contact the Hero of Ferelden that they are off far to the west "In a land untouched by the Blight" to find a cure for the Calling. Leliana is able to contact him/her through a long, drawn out way, I didn't pay much attention to that part.

 

Would like to see some HoF DLC or maybe have them play a bigger part in DA4, maybe similar to Hawke in DAI, but with more control over them.


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Later in the game, you can contact them and get a letter telling you that the Hero is looking for a cure to the Blight in a land far to the west.

 

I expect that will be the full extent of further interactions with them.  Laidlaw has said they are unlikely to have them appear.  Best to resign yourself to no more closure than that and move on to the next protagonist.



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Its confirmed later on in a wartable mission where you contact the Hero of Ferelden that they are off far to the west "In a land untouched by the Blight" to find a cure for the Calling.

 

 

The whole thing is so ridiculous that seems like an unreal parody,basically they have said that the Warden is in the land of far far away that is not even there,in a scene that is exactly like this in my mind.

Great ending  indeed..........


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As much as I want to incorporate the HoF in my world states, it feels so pointless. I'm better off with my Wardens who died. 


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Thanks for the response folks!  At least now I know what happened.  My Warden died at the end of DA:1 when she finally figured out there was no chance in hell she would ever be able to marry Alistair.  With that reality, it was an easy choice to sacrifice herself.


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It's something you'd think they'd have to follow up on at some point. A quest to cure the Calling is so tremendously huge and important that having the outcome simply be put into a codex entry just feels wasteful, not to mention underwhelming. I'd like to see a DLC or a sequel featuring the Warden dealing with it, maybe with the rest of the Awakening crew. That said, considering how terrible Bioware has been lately about following up on their plot theads (ie. the Mage-Templar War, Orlesian Civil War, the OGB, etc), I don't hold out much hope.



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You're on a warden mission , in theory warden are a somewhat secret order.

Of course if you're romancing her it's just plain weird.



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I think the obvious meta answer is that originally, the writers were planning for the Warden's continuing role to be important, which is why they added the comment about a mysterious disappearance at the end of DA2.  But then they realized how freaking impossible it would be to add the Warden back into the story so they just went with "s/he went out for milk and eggs and just didn't bother to tell his/her closest friends and/or lover".



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It's something you'd think they'd have to follow up on at some point. A quest to cure the Calling is so tremendously huge and important that having the outcome simply be put into a codex entry just feels wasteful, not to mention underwhelming. I'd like to see a DLC or a sequel featuring the Warden dealing with it, maybe with the rest of the Awakening crew. That said, considering how terrible Bioware has been lately about following up on their plot theads (ie. the Mage-Templar War, Orlesian Civil War, the OGB, etc), I don't hold out much hope.

 

I always thought they'd explore something like this before, but with the Architect choice in mind (seeing that's what helped cure Fiona).

 

Hell, toss in Avernus' choice too.... and the mysterious object/info that Morrigan gives at the end of Witch Hunt, and we have ourselves a lot of elements for an interesting Warden story.

 

But alas... it isn't happening.


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But alas... it isn't happening.

 

Kinda makes you wonder what will happen to Hawke down the road.  From what I hear, Hawke pretty much goes back into isolation after helping the Inquisitor.



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Cass was sent to find the Champion. Leliana was sent to find the Hero. The story was altered somewhat at some point. BioWare hand-waved the fact that Leliana could not find the Hero. So now in Inquisition she suddenly could, IF she was romanced. If not, then I think she finds out through Morrigan's lead.

 

I rationalize Leliana's testimony as her covering for her Warden lover. She did not want to reveal the truth because she understood the Warden's personal mission was important. So she lied and said the Warden also mysteriously disappeared.

 

Now in my world state my Hero is the King of Ferelden and romanced no one except Anora. So he would have told Anora where he was going. Leliana obviously would have asked the queen what happened to the Hero. I believe that Anora would have lied to Leliana in order to respect her husbands wishes of seeing his quest through to the end in his own way. So that's why, in my world state at least, Leliana reports that the Hero mysterious disappeared. Morrigan on the other hand could guess what the Hero was doing because she's the one who gave him the information about the cure.


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Is knowing someone, regardless of intimacy, but not knowing where they are really that impossible to understand?

Whether Leliana lies or not it's still absolutely plausible. Unless you're a Spirit looking for the Quizzy no one in Thedas has a GPS tracker on them.
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Cass was sent to find the Champion. Leliana was sent to find the Hero. The story was altered somewhat at some point. BioWare hand-waved the fact that Leliana could not find the Hero. So now in Inquisition she suddenly could, IF she was romanced. If not, then I think she finds out through Morrigan's lead.

 

I rationalize Leliana's testimony as her covering for her Warden lover. She did not want to reveal the truth because she understood the Warden's personal mission was important. So she lied and said the Warden also mysteriously disappeared.

 

Now in my world state my Hero is the King of Ferelden and romanced no one except Anora. So he would have told Anora where he was going. Leliana obviously would have asked the queen what happened to the Hero. I believe that Anora would have lied to Leliana in order to respect her husbands wishes of seeing his quest through to the end in his own way. So that's why, in my world state at least, Leliana reports that the Hero mysterious disappeared. Morrigan on the other hand could guess what the Hero was doing because she's the one who gave him the information about the cure.

 

That's pretty good. 

 

I always liked the idea of a Warden actually liking Anora too. She isn't so bad.

 

 

I just think the HoF not being part of much of anything except through letters and such is kind of weird.. Like what if the third Batman film still tried to acknowledge Joker in a way.. Like he sent little notes to Batman, while he was off fighting Bane. That'd be lame as hell.

 

It's better to just wash out the HoF from existence.... kind of like Ledger's Joker. It can't be done justice.


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Kinda makes you wonder what will happen to Hawke down the road.  From what I hear, Hawke pretty much goes back into isolation after helping the Inquisitor.

 

Hawke goes to Weisshaupt to explain the events of the south to the Wardens, and perhaps carry on the wishes of the Warden who stayed behind to distract the Nightmare. Otherwise Hawke is either dead or alive, trapped in the Fade or not, or possessed by the Nightmare or not.
 



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Hawke goes to Weisshaupt to explain the events of the south to the Wardens, and perhaps carry on the wishes of the Warden who stayed behind to distract the Nightmare. Otherwise Hawke is either dead or alive, trapped in the Fade or not, or possessed by the Nightmare or not.
 

 

NO!!!  Hawke goes back and gets married to Fenris.  Get it right!  :P  Way to kill my immersion.



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That's pretty good. 

 

I always liked the idea of a Warden actually liking Anora too. She isn't so bad.

 

 

I just think the HoF not being part of much of anything except through letters and such is kind of weird.. Like what if the third Batman film still tried to acknowledge Joker in a way.. Like he sent little notes to Batman, while he was off fighting Bane. That'd be lame as hell.

 

It's better to just wash out the HoF from existence.... kind of like Ledger's Joker. It can't be done justice.

 

Thanks, I like Anora too. She's fine as long as you pick the options that are best for the situations involving her.

 

I think one good way to involve the Hero somewhat in Inquisition would be to have him to send the Inquisitor Diligence Vigilance. Of course that would require the Keep to reflect that the sword was made. Either that or Starfang. Again, Keep required.

 

I want to see my Hero again. I already recreated him in Inquisition. The only things left are; voice, attacks, and proper dialogue. The first of which is done by hiring back the same voice actors (finding a suitable replacement for the late Robin Sachs). The last two are done through Keep and some effort on BioWare's part.



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Thanks, I like Anora too. She's fine as long as you pick the options that are best for the situations involving her.

 

I think one good way to involve the Hero somewhat in Inquisition would be to have him to send the Inquisitor Diligence. Of course that would require the Keep to reflect that the sword was made. Either that or Starfang. Again, Keep required.

 

I want to see my Hero again. I already recreated him in Inquisition. The only things left are; voice, attacks, and proper dialogue. The first of which is done by hiring back the same voice actors (finding a suitable replacement for the late Robin Sachs). The last two are done through Keep and some effort on BioWare's part.

 

You mean Vigilance? Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Out of all the cool swords my Warden might have, he sends a damn knife. :P

 

I wouldn't mind seeing the Hero too.. I don't mean to come off as a hater or anything. It's more that (kind of like my example with Joker) it's such a big character that can't be done justice in a half-assed way. They need to either have some genuine presence or just be out. All or nothing, I guess.


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I rationalize Leliana's testimony as her covering for her Warden lover. She did not want to reveal the truth because she understood the Warden's personal mission was important. So she lied and said the Warden also mysteriously disappeared.

 

Leliana also says that the Warden's quest is as much for her as it is for the Grey Wardens.  The Calling means that the HoF's lifespan is considerably shorter than normal, which means Leliana is quite likely to outlive him/her.  So the quest was to find a way for them to spend the full allotment of their lives together.  

 

NO!!!  Hawke goes back and gets married to Fenris.  Get it right!  :P  Way to kill my immersion.

Actually, later banter between Cass and Varric:

 

Cassandra:  I am somewhat surprised you didn't follow Hawke to Weisshaupt, Varric.
Varric:  There's a lot of work to do, Seeker.  We'll catch up once this is all over.

Cassandra: What about Fenris?  Will he...
Varric: Oh he'll go.  Once he gets my letter and after he's finished brooding.

 

;)

 

Edit:  This is assuming Varric's not lying to Cassandra AGAIN!  :angry:



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You mean Vigilance? Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Out of all the cool swords my Warden might have, he sends a damn knife. :P

I wouldn't mind seeing the Hero too.. I don't mean to come off as a hater or anything. It's more that (kind of like my example with Joker) it's such a big character that can't be done justice in a half-assed way. They need to either have some genuine presence or just be out. All or nothing, I guess.

Why would the Warden send one of his best weapons (Which he would probably be using, assuming no inventory pocket dimension, he probably isn't carrying a spare armory) to a stranger half a world away just for asking?

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Why would the Warden send one of his best weapons (Which he would probably be using, assuming no inventory pocket dimension, he probably isn't carrying a spare armory) to a stranger half a world away just for asking?

 

Because it's the Inquisitor's show now, apparently. He/she just needs to accept their pointless status and hand over the loot. :P

 

Seriously though, I don't care that much. I'd have to say that DAI has the better weapons designs out of any game so far.


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Because it's the Inquisitor's show now, apparently. He/she just needs to accept their pointless status and hand over the loot. :P

Seriously though, I don't care that much. I'd have to say that DAI has the better weapons designs out of any game so far.

Well, the Sulevin Blade seems to share the 2 handed model for Vigilence, so it's already in the game. :P

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You mean Vigilance? Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Out of all the cool swords my Warden might have, he sends a damn knife. :P

 

I wouldn't mind seeing the Hero too.. I don't mean to come off as a hater or anything. It's more that (kind of like my example with Joker) it's such a big character that can't be done justice in a half-assed way. They need to either have some genuine presence or just be out. All or nothing, I guess.

 

Yep. I always confuse that with the armor, which I see the name of more often in the game.

 

That's weird that your Hero sent a knife. Is your Hero a rogue? Mine is a warrior and sent a Superb Belt of Health (+100 health).

 

I understand. I would want the Hero to be a companion character that we can control. That would probably keep the out of characterness to a minimum. But I think the Keep could actually help define the character's goals and philosophies so that things stay on track during the game.



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Why would the Warden send one of his best weapons (Which he would probably be using, assuming no inventory pocket dimension, he probably isn't carrying a spare armory) to a stranger half a world away just for asking?

 

To be there in spirit. The Inquisitor is taking down one of the original darkspawn. The Hero might feel it right to send one of the best weapons in the world to the Inquisitor. Contribution!
 



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The Hero is not showing up because they might be dead.