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[KaiserShep]

I personally don't mind the idea of my warden being an unseen uber-badass who is an enigmatic legend who's always just doing solo runs everywhere because they don't even need a party anymore. They're not just a person anymore, they're a walking myth of awesome. I'm okay with that.

 

"My wife says that the Hero of Ferelden once removed his helmet, and there was nothing there. The armor is empty!"

 

"You're takin' the pi** if you think I'ma believe that story. You're lyin'."

 

"It's the Maker's truth! No way is a normal person in that armor. It's a spirit I tell you!" 

[Sifr]

BioWare should give the Warden one last hoorah, by having a silent, helmeted NPC that's either a male or female human, elf or dwarf walk by and someone says "Maker, it's the Hero of Ferelden!" and when you try to interact with the NPC, s/he just waves and keeps moving. 

 

Would be funnier (and more trollish) if they ended up being just a random Warden, who's annoyed that people keep mistaking them for the HOF.

 

"Yes, I'm a Grey Warden from Ferelden... and no, I'm not that one!"

 

(And bonus points if the Elf, Human or Dwarf mistaken for the HOF is actually Velanna, Nathaniel, Sigrun or Oghren)

[Lazarillo]

I personally don't mind the idea of my warden being an unseen uber-badass who is an enigmatic legend who's always just doing solo runs everywhere because they don't even need a party anymore. They're not just a person anymore, they're a walking myth of awesome. I'm okay with that.

 

This is really what I think they should've done with both the Warden and Hawke (and, going forward, the Inquisitor).  Of course, now that they don't have any out-standing plot threads with the Warden, this is easy on that front, but the way they brought back Hawke, they're going to need to do something to re-"fix" that bit.  So one more Hawke bit, but then that's enough of the previous heroes, okay guys?

[Aren]

I always thought they'd explore something like this before, but with the Architect choice in mind (seeing that's what helped cure Fiona).

 

Hell, toss in Avernus' choice too.... and the mysterious object/info that Morrigan gives at the end of Witch Hunt, and we have ourselves a lot of elements for an interesting Warden story.

 

 

What mysterious object/info? She just left the book,which is not even so valuable,given the fact that was stolen from the circle of magi of Ferelden,that posses plenty of similar book.

[TheKomandorShepard]

To be honest ,they shouldn't even touch HoF. 

 

This whole quest for calling is just outright pointless in case of some wardens.Why even bother with quest to remove calling ,when avernus method is much better ,as it pretty much prolongs life beyond human lifespan.

 

Not to mention warden actions are pretty much character braking for some players with its OOC moments.

 

 

What mysterious object/info? She just left the book,which is not even so valuable,given the fact that was stolen from the circle of magi of Ferelden,that posses plenty of similar book.

It wasn't circle magi book it was valuable book she stole from dalish , but we don't know if it was it or something else.If you romanced morrigan ,she tells you in dai that she gave some leads to the warden ,so it is possibility.

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[Aren]

 

 

 

It wasn't circle magi book it was valuable book she stole from dalish , but we don't know if it was it or something else.If you romanced morrigan ,she tells you in dai that she gave some leads to the warden ,so it is possibility.

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In order

 

Step 1

An elf apprentice stole the book from the circle and give the book to the Dalish  Keeper (i remember Arianne who has said this)

the book is not more special than the book that the Warden use during Finn introduction

 

Step 2

Morrigan stole an already stolen book

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

In order

 

Step 1

An elf apprentice stole the book from the circle and give the book to the Dalish  Keeper (i remember Arianne who has said this)

the book is not more special than the book that the Warden use during Finn introduction

 

Step 2

Morrigan stole an already stolen book

so when she said "The Dalish book is there"

she doesn't know that the book was passed in this order

 

Elves of Arlathan----->Tevinter empire----->Circle of Ferelden-------->Dalish---------->Morrigan------->Warden

(yes Warden, from world of thedas volume 2 Ariane do not return to her clan she follow Finn)

 

 

Romanced Morrigan has nothing to do with this, it was    the book in her little camp,the book and nothing else,people are just trying to build something that does not even exist due to misinterpretation.

Morrigan has nothing to do with the search for a cure 

"she just play the part of the romance partner who help the Hero",the same role of a romanced leliana or Alistair.

In my World state there is no romance and yet there is also the search for a cure,proof that Morrigan has left nothing particulary noteworthy,given the fact that  i have never played WH.

 

 

And yes yes search for a cure is pointless because Avernus method is by far better,this is way i said that it is just a parody to address the survived Warden somehow,when in truth they are simply and completely out of the picture because they are irrelevant to the plot.

The Calling bit was obviously the only method tha would have fit with every Origin and every survived Warden,albeit my warden King as well as many others players warden like yours couldn't give a crap to search a cure when they have Avernus.

 

Hm, i don't recall this part but possible.

 

I wasn't talking about her leaving gift for the warden only if she was romanced.What i have said is that ,she tells you in inquistion if you romanced her (thus have infromations about warden whereabouts and plans) that the warden is following leads that she gave him. About only book being there there was more.

[Beren Von Ostwick]

This whole quest for calling is just outright pointless in case of some wardens.Why even bother with quest to remove calling ,when avernus method is much better ,as it pretty much prolongs life beyond human lifespan.

 

Avernus... Avernus... Oh, right.  That guy I killed, and whose potion I destroyed, for conducting brutal experiments on fellow wardens.  His methods are lost to the ages.  Simply not available.  Well, at least in some of my playthroughs.

 

See?  It's just best to leave the HoF alone.  His/her time is gone.  

[TheKomandorShepard]

Avernus... Avernus... Oh, right.  That guy I killed, and whose potion I destroyed, for conducting brutal experiments on fellow wardens.  His methods are lost to the ages.  Simply not available.  Well, at least in some of my playthroughs.

 

See?  It's just best to leave the HoF alone.  His/her time is gone.  

LoL do you even read my post?

 

This is pretty much what i said in this specific post ,and part about avernus was simple to point that this quest for curing doesn't make sense for many wardens in first place. 

[Beren Von Ostwick]

LoL do you even read my post?

 

This is pretty much what i said in this specific post ,and part about avernus was simple to point that this quest for curing doesn't make sense for many wardens in first place. 

 

  Whoops.  Sorry!  That's what I get for skimming posts.  Carry on.

[Aren]

Hm, i don't recall this part but possible.

 

I wasn't talking about her leaving gift for the warden only if she was romanced.What i have said is that ,she tells you in inquistion if you romanced her (thus have infromations about warden whereabouts and plans) that the warden is following leads that she gave him. About only book being there there was more.

when she say "i left you a gift the dalish book is there and something you will find of great interest." she simply refer to the Dalish book and the content of the book,afterall she doesn't even know that the Warden will be present there into the Dragon bones lands.

the ring is not mandatory.

[Dai Grepher]

To be honest ,they shouldn't even touch HoF. 

 

This whole quest for calling is just outright pointless in case of some wardens.Why even bother with quest to remove calling ,when avernus method is much better ,as it pretty much prolongs life beyond human lifespan.

 

Not to mention warden actions are pretty much character braking for some players with its OOC moments.

 

My male human bloodmage is after it in order to use it to bend the Wardens to his bidding, or make money off it at least. But some other Hero might want it in order to help other Wardens who want to be free of the taint completely.

 

My male human noble who detests the Wardens wants it in order to be free of the taint himself, and to help others who want to be free of it. He also wants it as a cure for those who become tainted fighting against darkspawn.

 

I mean, think of it. Having that cure on hand would prevent many people from dying from the taint.

[Snowy-Ninja]

At this point I just want the Warden's story to be done. Yes I'm on that side of the fence that wants to play as the HOF one more time but now its gotten to the point where its stupid. Bioware had no need to drag the HOF back into the main story during DA2 at the end by announcing they had suddenly vanished and really why drag them back into the story again in DAI? To me Its like they want to do something with the HOF but they don't know what they want to do and fear that if they do do something that something will cause the dragon age fandom to blow up in a cloud of fury and lets be honest a lot of people will blow up in a cloud of fury.

 

I get they are dead to some people but I like my two wardens alive and while I know its easier to kill the HOF I just like the character to much. They could have done a DLC that covered the deep roads, had you tackle some of the origins of the blight / taint and what was happening with the wardens in the Anderfels while playing for one last time as a silent protagonist or playing as the Inquisitor and teaming up with the silent warden. But they have chosen not to and I understand their fears over people going batshit crazy over voice actors and being a silent character but honestly it seems a little silly to me.

 

Why they can't include an option to have a voice or silent protagonist is beyond me. Plus I adore all these silent protagonist jokes that you all keep on comin' up with. It'd be fun to return to the dark, bloody and horrfic world of DA:O and throw some jokes into the mix about this mythical hero, because lets be honest the HOF is what Level 50 / 60 now? They would be ridiculously powerful and its just got so much potential to work in a DLC that is both light hearted and dark. 

 

So yeah I can see why people are just saying "shut up it won't happen" but bioware keeps dragging the HOF back into the story with no payoff. If they don't want us to pine for the HOF then don't keep dragging them back into the story.

[Aren]

 

I mean, think of it. Having that cure on hand would prevent many people from dying from the taint.

 

the cure is only useful  for the common people and the tainted lands during times of blights but is useless for the Wardens,Wardens don't die because of the taint,they become ghoul,and the GW can prolong their life with the tain even without any cure.

[Iakus]

the cure is only useful  for the common people and the tainted lands during times of blights but is useless for the Wardens,Wardens don't die because of the taint,they become ghoul,and the GW can prolong their life with the tain even without any cure.

Anyone who doesn't die of the taint eventually becomes a ghoul (see Ruck from DAO)  Grey Wardens are just slower at it.  

 

So any cure for the taint would benefit Grey Wardens as much as anyone.

 

And the only way the Wardens have found to extend their life is through rather horrific uses of blood magic.   

[TheKomandorShepard]

when she say "i left you a gift the dalish book is there and something you will find of great interest." she simply refer to the Dalish book and the content of the book,afterall she doesn't even know that the Warden will be present there into the Dragon bones lands.

the ring is not mandatory.

What she said is and not just something you will find great intrest of you ,in first place why the warden would care about according to you not very special book that s/he wasn't even searching in first place. 

 

And yes she knew the warden was coming ,ariane tells you she thinks she is expecting the warden , then with proper dialogue options she tells you that she have waited on you because she was curious.

 

 

My male human bloodmage is after it in order to use it to bend the Wardens to his bidding, or make money off it at least. But some other Hero might want it in order to help other Wardens who want to be free of the taint completely.

 

My male human noble who detests the Wardens wants it in order to be free of the taint himself, and to help others who want to be free of it. He also wants it as a cure for those who become tainted fighting against darkspawn.

 

I mean, think of it. Having that cure on hand would prevent many people from dying from the taint.

You assume every HoF would care about other wardens dying or not  ,search for the cure is pretty much pointless as outside few exceptions wardens don't possess personal wealth ,not to mention warden can end up in far better position with proper choices. Search for the cure have only sense when your warden either cares for other wardens or/and don't want be involved in blood magic/sacrifice assuming it was part of avernus method.

[Toasted Llama]

BioWare should give the Warden one last hoorah, by having a silent, helmeted NPC that's either a male or female human, elf or dwarf walk by and someone says "Maker, it's the Hero of Ferelden!" and when you try to interact with the NPC, s/he just waves and keeps moving. 

 

Um, excuse me, my Warden would never wave. That isn't her personality. Ugh. *rolls eyes* Casuals.

 

[Aren]

 

 

And the only way the Wardens have found to extend their life is through rather horrific uses of blood magic.   

The experiments was required because Avernus was still  developed his method on subjects,but now i believe that i have progressed enough and that method can be applied without horrific experiments,his blood magic is used to remove the poison of the taint while the true power   remain,the GW don't need any cure if they can become more powerful and even live for centuries with it, in this specific case the taint is a benefit.

But then again it is far to be proven that a cure for the taint exist,Fiona can be just a case applicable for younger GW and not for heavy tainted beings.

[Aren]

What she said is and not just something you will find great intrest of you ,in first place why the warden would care about according to you not very special book that s/he wasn't even searching in first place. 

 

 

 

I believe that she is referring to the book the evidence that you have rightfully brought up are not corroborated enough.

 

1) Ariane statement "i think she is expecting you" is no proof by any means that she was aware that the warden is coming,in fact without the ring she say that she was curious to see if was truly the Warden,proof that she was unsure, so why risk to abandon this personal gift and not give the gift to the warden directly hand by hand? 

 

2) The same statement is said by her for the Orlesian Warden, in which she say "you i do not know", but then she left this supposed gift to someone that she doesn't even know? a gift for a stranger? and for what?

 

This is why i do not believe that she has left any gift to the Warden,but then again the entire premise doesn't make sense,because even if she left something the plot line is dropped.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

I believe that she is referring to the book the evidence that you have rightfully brought up are not corroborated enough.

 

1) Ariane statement "i think she is expecting you" is no proof by any means that she was aware that the warden is coming,in fact without the ring she say that she was curious to see if was truly the Warden,proof that she was unsure, so why risk to abandon this personal gift and not give the gift to the warden directly hand by hand? 

 

2) The same statement is said by her for the Orlesian Warden, in which she say "you i do not know", but then she left this supposed gift to someone that she doesn't even know? a gift for a stranger? and for what?

 

This is why i do not believe that she has left any gift to the Warden,but then again the entire premise doesn't make sense,because even if she left something the plot line is dropped.

 

 

As i said, it doesn't make sense given she put and ,also as i said the warden had no interest in this book in first place ,it had no value for him/her.

 

1)Ariane statment isn't proof but it pretty much indicates that and then morrigan statment confirms she was waiting on you , also she says she remained to see if that was truly the warden and this is line for the warden that romanced her ,for those who didn't romance her she says she waited this long because she was curious.So in both cases she knew we were coming for her.

 

2)Gifts aren't only given to friends or family ,as for why i rly can't tell you what intentions she had ,all i know that she says every warden would be interested in it.

 

Well yes (so is pretty much hof) but still as i said there is nothing that excludes giving the warden some sort of clue/leads how to deal with the calling and there are even some hints (note hint not proof).   

[FaWa]

The Hero of Fereldon is going to be the villain in Mass Effect Andromeda. My cousin's boyfriend's dermatologist's brother works for EA and he says ME:A is going to feature the last spirit monk and the hero of Kvatch teaming up with the PC

 

hope this helps

[Face of Evil]

The Hero of Fereldon is going to be the villain in Mass Effect Andromeda. My cousin's boyfriend's dermatologist's brother works for EA and he says ME:A is going to feature the last spirit monk and the hero of Kvatch teaming up with the PC

 

hope this helps

 

[Aren]

in 1 case Morrigan do not mention any gift or book,in the case of romanced Warden without the DR she say

"there is one last thing i must tell you,your son is safe"

[TheKomandorShepard]

in 1 case Morrigan do not mention any gift or book,in the case of romanced Warden without the DR she say

"there is one last thing i must tell you,your son is safe"

This is when you go with her or not?

But to be honest either way ,it is rather irrelevant as it is only one scenario and pretty much i doubt that romancing her and not doing dr would cause her to not give you this book and thing she have left for every other warden. 

[Dai Grepher]

You assume every HoF would care about other wardens dying or not  ,search for the cure is pretty much pointless as outside few exceptions wardens don't possess personal wealth ,not to mention warden can end up in far better position with proper choices. Search for the cure have only sense when your warden either cares for other wardens or/and don't want be involved in blood magic/sacrifice assuming it was part of avernus method.

 

Did you even read my post? Seriously?