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How to satisfy both sides of this MP should matter to the story.


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My experience on XBox is that it takes one good game to get guys talking, and it is 99% positive. On PS3, there is much less talking unless it's from friends, but a PUG will start chiming in after a couple of games. Apparently, the Wii U talks quite a bit, but it is missing too much DLC for me to keep playing it.

 

I like to imagine it's because all 10 WiiU players know each other pretty well by now =P


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I was originally pretty surprised to hear console players don't use them as much either, since mics are a lot more common with those systems.

 

Though on PC 90% of the talking I got was asking if I was the Cyonan from BSN and saying my datamining/theorycrafting work was awesome.

IDK I think a lot of people talk but they have parties instead of game chat. It's really easy to form a party and talk to people in game and out of it. I generally need some human interaction while soloing.



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Is it possible to mute the other players in theae games?

I remember playing an MP game on console years ago and there was no way for me to avoid voice-chat without just turning off the sound.

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Is it possible to mute the other players in theae games?

I remember playing an MP game on console years ago and there was no way for me to avoid voice-chat without just turning off the sound.

 

In ME3 you have to kick the people on console.  I think putting them on your block list mutes them though.  DAI offers both mute and in and out of game kick.  I assume the new ME will be the same.



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Is it possible to mute the other players in theae games?

I remember playing an MP game on console years ago and there was no way for me to avoid voice-chat without just turning off the sound.


On Xbox just make a party and it mutes everyone in gamechat. A lot faster than muting individual players.

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No thank you.


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Isn't there a CoD game out there for you?

 

Isn't there a visual novel out there for you?

 

Oh look, I can play that game too  ^_^



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You only needed to play a couple of MP matches to get the "breath" scene.

 

"hundreds of MP matches" is either an insane exaggeration, or the only person at fault is you for playing far more matches than was actually needed to even hit 100% readiness.

 

But... your galactic readiness kept dropping by the day. You had to keep playing multiplayer to keep you GR at 100%. And you squeezed those last few matches in just to make sure before you made the last push to the beam, right? We were gonna kick the reapers in the daddy bags, we were....

 

Then.,..,

 

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Alas.... que waste of a good single player campaign. At least the multiplayer was fun.

 

Seriously, let's keep what happens in MP separate from what happens in SP, and what happens in SP separate from what happens in MP.



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Though on PC 90% of the talking I got was asking if I was the Cyonan from BSN and saying my datamining/theorycrafting work was awesome.


To be fair, it is.

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I wouldn't mind text chat. But voice chat is the devil.

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There's absolutely no reason not to have both.



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Doesn't really matter to me what they do, I never played MEMP nor touched DAMP and have no intention of playing MEAMP either.



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Silly hyperbolic crying like this doesn't help anyone. You never had to do "hundreds of matches" to get anything in singleplayer. It was closer to half a dozen to go from minimum to maximum readiness, and anyway, the only thing that was inaccessable for like a period of 4 months or so was an ambiguous 5 second long easter egg for one of the 3 endings that ultimately changed nothing about the narrative or gameplay.[/quote]

 

Further, your complaint is completely beside the point of the thread. How would enabling one to circumvent resource grinding (such as the awful mining minigame from ME2, or stupid, plot irrleveant fetch quests in general) by playing MP force you personally to play it if all the same resources could still be acquired by those means in SP? 
 

 

Why keep people like you keep saying that SP and MP have to be linked at all? That is the question I have yet to see answered. There is no reason to link them other than to have play through both modes and when many players don't want to that. I see no reason why people who just want to play the SP mode should be forced to play MP and vice versa for that matter.  

 

My point is to say how stupid the whole the idea of trying to link two modes that should only have the universe and basic controls linked and NOTHING else is.


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All I know is this:

 

In 1991, my dad bought Final Fantasy II for the SNES when it was brand new.  He paid $60 dollars for it.  Last year, I paid $60 for the Deluxe Digital Edition for DA:I.  The price point, not accounting for inflation (really beside the point,) hasn't changed since then.  I figure if folks enjoy MP, then I'm happy for them!  It's always wonderful to have multiple options.   I don't pay more for games with them, so why not?   :D

 

I've never really enjoyed a multiplayer environment.  It's nothing against the MP crowd, I just prefer taking things at my own pace.  Plus, I have two dogs and I need to be able to go AFK at a moment's notice.  In MP, most people aren't very patient with that.  That's okay by me, since it's not on them.  Most of the MP crowd I've met in games over the years are pretty nice.  Even if someone enjoys PVE/SP over PVP/MP, as long as a person is respectful, it's easy to get along.  I've rarely been called a "Carebear Player" (old term for PVE in MMOs) because I don't tend to call those that enjoy MP/PvP "elitists."   

 

Then again, I tend to ignore most gamer debates.   :P

 

As far as the topic directly goes, I support the OP's idea.  I figure that would be an excellent way to make sure all of us can get the most out of our games.  There are folks that prefer single player and will unlikely touch MP.  There are folks that feel that the ME3 story was very weak, and that multiplayer is where the game is at.  There are also plenty in the middle, contrary to the staggering amount of blanket statements I've seen on the matter.  If someone is having fun, awesome.  Multiplayer and mods can help extend a game's lifespan.  Of course, good word-of-mouth from game players you trust helps too.

 

They don't have to be connected, and I can see the point of view of those that think they should remain separate.  However, I don't see how the OP's idea could affect that.  It seems like they wanted a way to come up with everyone getting the most content that the game has to offer.  I don't see any attempts at exclusion here.

 

For as bad as some folks think that the forums can be, if it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't have played the ME series.  It's rapidly turning into my second favorite series to date.  I still prefer Dragon Age, even after DA:I (that game is my #1 favorite DA game,) but ME beat out Neverwinter Nights.  While I respect those that feel quite differently, I'm not really interested in debating about it right now.  I just think that the OP has a pretty balanced idea.  If we can all have more fun with these games, then I support it.  


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I see the argument that MP shouldn't be tied to SP story. That I don't really agree with but at the same time I do feel like there should be a way around being forced to participate in a game mode that you don't enjoy. Solution would be that certain war assets like materials to improve ships, vehicles, weapons, etc, credits and other in game materials be awarded in MP that transfers to single player. SP player only people should still be able to get these materials and resources through routine exploration, mining, side quests, etc. This allows everyone a playstyle that suits them. 

 

Bioware could also have something like the verbal news feed reflecting their progress in MP as well. Like Alliance forces captured a base on whatever planet, etc. 

 

This way both sides are happy. 

 

It's a start, but not enough.  I made a nice list of add on features for MP gamers.  They are very cool features that are no different than the way pre order bonuses would be and people don't complain about those anymore.

 

http://forum.bioware...-the-most-part/

 

It's optional content available to everyone, but has no affect on the SP.  Just a nod to greatness.  Hope to see your support.



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The should just make all the game persistent multiplayer, like SWTOR.

 

It's the objectively superior approach.



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An MMO is not the same as persistent multiplayer, although it would require a persistent internet connection.  I went through that with Diablo 3, and avoided the latest SimCity because of it as well.   I'm not going through that again.    <_<

 

With a few exceptions, like FFXI and FFXIV, you can easily solo your way through an MMO and never interact with another person.  Particularly in ToR.  I would only deal with other people when I was bored and felt like running a Flashpoint.  I guess the best comparison is to force PvP on all servers and players regardless of circumstance.  Like the PvP servers in WoW or ToR.  Which the OP isn't asking for. 



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An MMO is not the same as persistent multiplayer, although it would require a persistent internet connection.  I went through that with Diablo 3, and avoided the latest SimCity because of it as well.   I'm not going through that again.    <_<

 

With a few exceptions, like FFXI and FFXIV, you can easily solo your way through an MMO and never interact with another person.  Particularly in ToR.  I would only deal with other people when I was bored and felt like running a Flashpoint.  I guess the best comparison is to force PvP on all servers and players regardless of circumstance.  Like the PvP servers in WoW or ToR.  Which the OP isn't asking for. 

 

That sounds like someone who would be very mean to people, yet you are here on an internet forum so I don't exactly see how you could be called anti social.  Why don't you like people or want to play games with them? Especially if its an MMO.  There are a lot of great and fun people to play with out there.



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That sounds like someone who would be very mean to people, yet you are here on an internet forum so I don't exactly see how you could be called anti social.  Why don't you like people or want to play games with them? Especially if its an MMO.  There are a lot of great and fun people to play with out there.

I'm not anti-social nor asocial.  Not sure why you concluded that based on one post.  I also don't know how you figured I would be "mean."  I'm actually very nice and supportive.  Shoot, I'm the first to encourage others not to fight and insult each other even if they don't get along.  

 

I don't like being forced online if the game isn't a MMO.  Diablo 3 does that.  That means when battle.net is down for maintenance (say, they need to patch WoW,) that takes Diablo 3 offline as well.  I can't even play the single player mode, much less co-op with my husband.  I hate that.

I like people.  In fact, I'm one of the more social people on the forums.  I don't know where you got that from.  I preferred to play solo in ToR, since I had control of my story the most that way.  MMO or not, this was a BioWare game and I was after the single player story.  I did that on one character, my Imperial Agent; the other I leveled with my husband, which was my Sith Warrior and his Bounty Hunter.  It was some of the most fun I've ever had in a MMO.

 

 I did play quite a bit with others in WoW though.  Heck, my husband and I used to raid Molten Core (2006) with my parents as class officers.  I used to run a raiding guild during the Wrath of the Lich King days (2010.)  I shared Guild Master duties with another person, since the guild was sodding huge at the time.  I was in a different raiding guild until I quit in 2013, since I'd finally had enough of WoW.  

 

I was merely pointing out that a person doesn't have to play with others in order to enjoy an MMO.  Also, if you didn't read my previous post, I mentioned that I'm happy for anyone that enjoys their game for any reason.  Whether it's MP or SP, as long as someone is having fun, that's truly all I care about.  We're video game fans first, before we are anything else on the forums.


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Sometimes, I ain't got time for people in games. I never even added anyone on Destiny. I went in, played a bit then got out. I dunno how many requests I've ignored or denied. But that's also because I don't want their stupid names popping up on my screen when they go in and out. 



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Why keep people like you keep saying that SP and MP have to be linked at all? That is the question I have yet to see answered. There is no reason to link them other than to have play through both modes and when many players don't want to that. I see no reason why people who just want to play the SP mode should be forced to play MP and vice versa for that matter.

My point is to say how stupid the whole the idea of trying to link two modes that should only have the universe and basic controls linked and NOTHING else is.


In the gameplay of all three ME games, there have been super boring aspects that sucked. In ME1, you had to side missions by driving a terrible driving car to a building that looks like every other building in the galaxy. ME2 had decent side missions, but also required hours of mining, which was essentially coloring a golf ball. ME3 had that odd set of missions where you had to scan solar systems to find some morons lost keys and then had to dodge reapers at the same time. None of those things were fun and BW put them in as a time filler. All the OP asked was if that there was a filler like that in MEA, then playing MP should reward you by not forcing you to play that filler. That isn't an unreasonable request, nor would it take anything from SP? Since 40% of SP had been grinding for useless crap since this game existed.

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In the gameplay of all three ME games, there have been super boring aspects that sucked. In ME1, you had to side missions by driving a terrible driving car to a building that looks like every other building in the galaxy. ME2 had decent side missions, but also required hours of mining, which was essentially coloring a golf ball. ME3 had that odd set of missions where you had to scan solar systems to find some morons lost keys and then had to dodge reapers at the same time. None of those things were fun and BW put them in as a time filler. All the OP asked was if that there was a filler like that in MEA, then playing MP should reward you by not forcing you to play that filler. That isn't an unreasonable request, nor would it take anything from SP? Since 40% of SP had been grinding for useless crap since this game existed.

It seems some are so deeply rooted in their disdain for MP that they're unwilling to even consider compromise.



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It's a start, but not enough.  I made a nice list of add on features for MP gamers.  They are very cool features that are no different than the way pre order bonuses would be and people don't complain about those anymore.


If Bio proposed additional romance options that were only available if you pre-ordered, I guarantee that would go over very badly.

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MP is like a roach that won't die. 


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It seems some are so deeply rooted in their disdain for MP that they're unwilling to even consider compromise.

 

Yep, and MP gamers don't have the required blonde hair and blue eyes.

 

Luckily for us we are on the top of the food chain.