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[themikefest]

 

I wonder if anyone has done a 1 life to live playthrough, on insanity for the series. Only using load to start a new gameplay session.

I wonder if anyone has done a playthrough like this.

 

 

who?

[von uber]

She gets a proper kiss from Aria.

[dreamgazer]

I'd love to have been able to sport Blake's gear, both her casual and combat attire, throughout the trilogy.

[Ryzaki]

Well if you spared the Reaper Rachni it blows up in your face

 

But Pure Paragon never would've had to deal with that. Only a stupid waffling renegade would've.

[Seboist]

I'm baffled as to why there's even a choice to spare the Reaper Rachni, Why would a renegade shep whom killed the original queen spare an even more dubious one?

[KaiserShep]

Hackett should've called up on the QEC after finding out that a bunch of workers got killed by reaper rachni. 

 

 

SHEPAAAAAAAAAARD!

[JoltDealer]

Insofar as an in-game explanation goes, Shepard isn't a nobody, though it is easy to forget.  Depending on the background you chose, Shepard was either the sole survivor of a horrible accident, a war hero who single-handedly held off enemy forces long enough for reinforcements to arrive, or a soldier renowned for his/her ruthlessness throughout the galaxy.  Even before the Reapers, Shepard was more than your average soldier.  Then add the Beacon on Eden Prime, altering him mentally and even somewhat physically.  Then Shepard was rebuilt by Cerberus, which allowed for his/her body to be upgraded to allow for an even more deadly soldier.

 

Any of those aspects alone are enough to compete with Garrus, Samara, or any other member of the Normandy Crew.  All of them together?  Yeah, Shepard being special is a no brainer.

[Daemul]

I wonder if anyone has done a 1 life to live playthrough, on insanity for the series. Only using load to start a new gameplay session.

I tried. I got through ME1, ME2 and up to Priority:Rannoch in ME3 without dying before getting lasered by the Destroyer. I never got around to trying it again.

[God]

You get out of Shepard what you put into him (or her). 

 

I invested quite a bit into Shep. Thus, I get a lot out of him.

[KaiserShep]

You get out of Shepard what you put into him (or her). 

 

I invested quite a bit into Shep. Thus, I get a lot out of him.

 

The only limit is your imagination.

 

and crap tons of autodialogue. 

[Hazegurl]

I'm baffled as to why there's even a choice to spare the Reaper Rachni, Why would a renegade shep whom killed the original queen spare an even more dubious one?

Pretty much. There is just no way a renegade would have chosen to spare her.  To have that as a renegade option was just stupid paragon hand holding nonsense.  Practically every Paragon choice is about giving dubious people chances, but this one time, the Paragon choice is to leave her to die?  smh.

 

Anyway, I always spare the original Queen then leave her to die in ME3.  That was her second time getting herself involved in some sort of Reaper breeding situation.  She had to go.

[KaiserShep]

To be fair, the first time it was a corporation, an asari and a high-functioning marauder. 

[sjsharp2011]

"you can tell a soldier to fight sure, but you can't make a soldier believe" Or somewhere along those lines.....

 

also the power of friendship!!!!

 

 

Yeah I think Admiral Hackett in a conversation he has with Shepard in ME3 summed it up perfectly in that conversation Hackett knew Shepard was the galaxy's best chance of surviving the nightmare andf people believed in him/her It was that belief that is what gave them a chance to succeed where everyone else up to that point had failed. That and the speech Hackett gives just before the final battle certainly is 2 parts I consider iconic in that 3rd game Not the most iconic parts of the whole story but certainly of that 3rd game.

[Blackguard]

You get out of Shepard what you put into him (or her). 

 

I invested quite a bit into Shep. Thus, I get a lot out of him.

 

That pretty much nails it.

 

Shepard is something different for each player.

 

For the ones who care only for the gameplay and are using the default-shep he is... well, a convertible game-protagonist.

 

For me a default-paragon Shep is a casual hollywood-underwearmodel... for you it may mean the hero you did several playthroughs with.

 

My Shep is more or less a vicious bastard. So... an alter ego of me...

I care only for my crew and to hell with the rest.

I try to stop the reapers not to valiantly save the world or because i am zealous about my soldier-honour, but because i have to... otherwise i don't got a place to live anymore.

If there would be a choice, my Shep would live with Tali on Rannoch and breed Varrens, let some other moron die on this freaking crucible.

 

I never killed the rachni queen, i never killed wrex and i always helped Tali whenever i could, as well as i saved the Geth.

Other than this i killed, robbed and punched through the galaxie like a ... well... a renegade.

 

As his or her lordship wrote, Shepard is what you make him to be.

That you still got so much freedom in develop his character, albeit you follow a fixed way in these games, is a seldom achieved compromise that works in ME.

That is the reason so many people was so pissed about the ending/got it so hard to let this setting go.

If you stick to something for so long, and if you feel kind of connected to it, you don't want to lose it.

[Blackguard]

You get out of Shepard what you put into him (or her). 

 

I invested quite a bit into Shep. Thus, I get a lot out of him.

 

That pretty much nails it.

 

Shepard is something different for each player.

 

For the ones who care only for the gameplay and are using the default-shep he is... well, a convertible game-protagonist.

 

For me a default-paragon Shep is a casual hollywood-underwearmodel... for you it may mean the hero you did several playthroughs with.

 

My Shep is more or less a vicious bastard. So... an alter ego of me...

I care only for my crew and to hell with the rest.

I try to stop the reapers not to heroic save the world but because i have to... otherwise i don't a place to live anymore.

 

I never killed the rachni queen, i never killed wrex and i always helped Tali whenever i could as well as i saved the Geth.

Other than this, i killed, robbed and punched through the galaxie like a ... well... a renegade.

 

As his or her lordship wrote, Shepard is what you make him to be.

That you still got so much freedom in develop his character, albeit you follow a fixed way in these games, is a seldom achieved compromise that works in ME.

[BioWareM0d13]

 

 

 

My take? Illusive man didn't need shepard at all.

 

The less a person thinks about the plot of Mass Effect 2, the better.

 

The notion that Shepard was the only person capable of leading a mission through the Omega IV relay was silly. There really is no reason for anyone to bring Shepard back to life. 

 

Bioware created the Lazarus Project to force Shepard into Cerberus, which was a bad idea to begin with.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

The less a person thinks about the plot of Mass Effect 2, the better.

 

The notion that Shepard was the only person capable of leading a mission through the Omega IV relay was silly. There really is no reason for anyone to bring Shepard back to life. 

 

Bioware created the Lazarus Project to force Shepard into Cerberus, which was a bad idea to begin with.

 

The moment they killed Shepard in ME2 is where the plot went out the airlock. There's plenty of ways they could've had Shepard reluctantly work with Cerberus; i.e. he gets some kind of hint about the Reapers and the Council continues to ignore him, so out of desperation, he works with his enemy (and anyone who says this is too extreme: Arrival features 300k Batarians and slaves dying by Shepard's hand; working with Cerberus is far less outrageous).

 

Killing him and resurrecting him felt like a lazy way to say "his skills have decayed; he's starting over now!"

[Hazegurl]

Shepard dying was just a way to give Paragon Shepards an excuse to work for Cerberus.  Mostly all the Renegade options were open to the idea.  I think it would have made a lot more sense for Shepard to turn to Cerberus on his own but at least the beginning of ME2 was dramatic.

[CrutchCricket]

It's crap like this that really annoys me you do realise that Shepherd could be female to but no male shepherds obviously superior because Jesus was a man second coming my ass.

Implying that messiahs can't be female?

 

Overly-sensitive feminists. Owning themselves since an arbitrary date I pulled out of my ass.

[Redbelle]

Garrus fought off half of Omegas criminal underworld (read: half of the stations population) by himself. Had a bit of help, and all the help died, but that's no less hostile than the omega 4 suicide mission. Wasn't a mere hit and run assault either, he actually stood his ground for a really long time.

Samara, is a biotic goddess honing the art for thousands of years.

Jack is just a natural born biotic prodigy honed by a rough a childhood raised by cerberus.

Liara is basically the Mass Effect equivalent of the NSA.

Joker is the best frigate pilot in the alliance

EDI is a self aware AI, able to do everything perfectly, and by the end of Mass Effect 3 even has some ability to think creatively

 

 

My take? Illusive man didn't need shepard at all.

Shepard was special because Shepard was our agent to interact with the universe. Sure s/he stumbled around like a drunk and most of the interactive cut scene's in ME3 have an awkward, head tilted to the side so the character's aren't looking at each other.... But that's not relevant to the OP.

 

Shepard was our object to affect the universe. His efforts were our efforts and he or she was customized to hundreds of thousands of personalized preferences that each player imposed on the avatar.

 

So surely the question ought to be, how was Shepard not special? Shepard was the player. The player is special. Without the player there is no game no matter how much development of game occurs.

 

ME3's ending however revealed an unfortunate truth. The avatar had very little investment or motivation beyond doing what s/he was told. Jack dealt with her issues. Tali climbed the ranks of her fleet. Wrex became clan leader. Shepard always stayed Shepard. The guy who stops bad happening. Aside from his background as a spacer in ME1 all he had was a father figure in Anderson and even that was taken from him.

 

So narratively, aside from a resolver of issues, Shepard was not special other than being the guy with an iron will and steadfast determination. The story never gave him a 'thing' other than stopping the Reapers. Which I took as destroy, but it turned out was something other than destroy and even destroy had strings attached.

 

As a player I felt special as a player because player's are needed to play a game. But by the end, those infamous last five minutes, 'My Shepard' was something I felt removed from.

[Switish]

"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death."
 

While I agree some of the team were much more powerful and talented in terms of their skills or practices, non possessed the skill to lead in the same manner of Shepard who was the one leading the charge to destroy the reapers, everyone separated or disappeared after his/her first death with no commitment to destroy what they all set out to do under his/her leadership, sure there are potentials to form as a co-leader such as Garrus but hes taking charge from Shepard, remember what Mirianda said?

 

" I dont have what you do; that fire that makes someone willing to follow you into hell itself."

[SNascimento]

I wonder if anyone has done a 1 life to live playthrough, on insanity for the series. Only using load to start a new gameplay session.

I did with ME2, twice. But I reckoned ME1 gameplay was too bad to be worth the effort and ME3 too easy to die is some parts.

[MsKlaussen]

Shepard is not very special at all. In half the cutscenes he looks awkward and moves like a bumbling idiot, and half his lines sound like the lines of a bumbling idiot.

 

Should have avoided Sheploo and went with Hale's version. FemShep was a snarling sharp tongued sarcastic badass.

[The Heretic of Time]

You get out of Shepard what you put into him (or her). 

 

I invested quite a bit into Shep. Thus, I get a lot out of him.

 

That's not true. I've put Jacob's chocolate candybar in my femShep but she never got little black kids.

[Br3admax]

Shepard dying was just a way to give Paragon Shepards an excuse to work for Cerberus.  Mostly all the Renegade options were open to the idea.  I think it would have made a lot more sense for Shepard to turn to Cerberus on his own but at least the beginning of ME2 was dramatic.

They killed Shepard to show that even death couldn't stop the savior of humanity during his/her top secret covert mission that no one knows or cares about.