Shepard is special.
She took time from her busy schedule to talk with her number one fan, Conrad Verner.
what makes shepard so special?
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#101
Posté 10 juillet 2015 - 12:07
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Posté 10 juillet 2015 - 05:25
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What made Shepard special was the Prothean visions and the Cypher. Other than that, he was just a great soldier, which is why he was selected for the Spectres. So since that was all dropped after Mass Effect, you're right; Shepard isn't special from ME2 onward.
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Posté 10 juillet 2015 - 06:37
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Shepard is basically Space Jesus who is the messiah of our cycle.
Everyone follows and puts their faith in him. He came back from the death (it just took him slightly longer than 3 days and about 40 billion credits).
He can talk-jutsu anyone into submission (as long as you're a pure-paragon goody-two-shoes with enough paragon points) and he can solve all problems with blind idealism with no negative repercussions whatsoever (again, if you're playing as a pure paragon angel that is).
Like Jesus, Shepard has 12 disciples (in ME2) and like Jesus, Shepard is betrayed by one of his disciples (the Virmire survivor, who is the Judas of this story).
I fully believe Shepard is the second coming of Jesus, or at least paragon Shepard is.
Edit: Hell, Shepard is even called "the Shepherd" at the end of the series, just like Jesus.
I agree that Shepard is an allusion to Jesus, but I don't think the VS was meant to be Judas. First of all, if squad-mates equal disciples then Shepard had more than 12. If only ME2 squad-mates equal disciples then the VS wasn't one. More importantly, Judas was bribed to betray Jesus. The VS got angry and refused to join Shepard and Cerberus(rightly or wrongly) purely on principle. They may have mistrusted Shepard, but they never really betrayed Shepard.
Sorry if this was a tangent, but I felt compelled to say it.
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Posté 10 juillet 2015 - 04:13
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I assume people love their Shepard because of the amount of time, thought, effort, energy they've put into their playthroughs. They want to see their Shepard's actions reflected in the next Mass Effect game.
Which is fine, I feel the same way about my Shepard. But as of now, his chapter is over. I am ready to move on and put effort into a new cast and new PC. Shepard will always be number one.
But I think thats why people think Shepard is so special.
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Posté 10 juillet 2015 - 05:50
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Sometimes, to make more sense of the plot (especially ME2), I like to pretend the Mass Effect Trilogy is really the Alliance Propaganda version of what happened when the Reapers invaded.
So yes, of *course* Shepard is special.
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 11:49
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What made Shepard special was the Prothean visions and the Cypher. Other than that, he was just a great soldier, which is why he was selected for the Spectres. So since that was all dropped after Mass Effect, you're right; Shepard isn't special from ME2 onward.
If you don't have Javik the Cipher is what allows you to activate the Beacon on Thessia, IIRC. I thought that was a nice touch, since it actually made the one actually unique thing about Shep relevant.
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 12:39
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If you don't have Javik the Cipher is what allows you to activate the Beacon on Thessia, IIRC. I thought that was a nice touch, since it actually made the one actually unique thing about Shep relevant.
Correct, it does pop back up for one scene, but it should have been central.
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 12:51
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She's the only crazy person who would melee a Yahg...
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 01:21
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What made Shepard special was the Prothean visions and the Cypher. Other than that, he was just a great soldier, which is why he was selected for the Spectres. So since that was all dropped after Mass Effect, you're right; Shepard isn't special from ME2 onward.
Except for coming back to life, being half robot(in the wrong kind of way), tanking molten plasma that destroys starships, going toe to toe with a Yahg(a big one), and using sniper rifles that snap arms clean in two, you mean. Then sure. Shepard sure isn't special from ME2 onwards.
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 01:26
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Except for coming back to life, being half robot(in the wrong kind of way), tanking molten plasma that destroys starships, going toe to toe with a Yahg(a big one), and using sniper rifles that snap arms clean in two, you mean. Then sure. Shepard sure isn't special from ME2 onwards.
Exactly what of that impacts anything whatsoever?
Shepard came back to life: Only a time skip. Isn't even addressed in a meaningful way until one short scene on the Cerberus base in ME3 that goes nwhere.
Being half robot: Meaningless
Tanking molten plasma (I assume you mean Harbinger's attack): Stupid, contrived, and an indirect hit.
Brawling Yahg: So what? Also optional DLC.
Widow Rifle: Just a different gun.
None of that impacts the plot in any way.
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 01:36
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Exactly what of that impacts anything whatsoever?
Ah, the game of Muh Opinions™. I love this one.
Shepard came back to life: Only a time skip. Isn't even addressed in a meaningful way until one short scene on the Cerberus base in ME3 that goes nwhere.
The **** are you talking about? It doesn't matter it had plot relevance, which it actually did in ME2 multiple times. It still happened. Shepard was dead and came back to life, there is no arguing that. Like at all.
Being half robot: Meaningless
Except it isn't to the plot of ME3, it was a pretty big theme in it actually. It also is something that makes them special compared to literally everything else in the galaxy.
Tanking molten plasma (I assume you mean Harbinger's attack): Stupid, contrived, and an indirect hit.
I'm not seeing the part where your opinion of events that happen have some sort of impact of any kind in the significance of them happening. It still happened.
Brawling Yahg: So what? Also optional DLC.
Besides the fact that they can crush normal people pretty easily, I don't have the faintest of ideas. And that optional dlc is still completely canon, so again, there's no point here.
Widow Rifle: Just a different gun.
In ME2? No it was not. It's even in the item description.
None of that impacts the plot in any way.
The point is Shepard is a super being and human perfection which was the plot, in case you went into a coma during ME.
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Posté 11 juillet 2015 - 02:11
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Ah, the game of Muh Opinions™. I love this one.
Actually it's just you talking out of your ass.
The **** are you talking about? It doesn't matter it had plot relevance, which it actually did in ME2 multiple times. It still happened. Shepard was dead and came back to life, there is no arguing that. Like at all.
Of course it matters if it has plot relevance. So what if it just happened? Shepard doesn't really care that much, so why should I? And where was the plot relevance? Don't give me the time skip. Where was the actual relevance of Shepard having died and come back to life?
Except it isn't to the plot of ME3, it was a pretty big theme in it actually. It also is something that makes them special compared to literally everything else in the galaxy.
How is Shepard being cybernetic essential to the plot of ME3? All I recall is one line from the Catalyst about Shepard being partly synthetic. Maybe I forgot something though. Shepard's cybernetics are not special other than perhaps the extent to which he has them.
Besides the fact that they can crush normal people pretty easily, I don't have the faintest of ideas. And that optional dlc is still completely canon, so again, there's no point here.
So what? First, that's not that big a deal. A Krogan could do it. I bet even James Vega could do it. And ultimately, it's just a scene of Shepard punching an alien in a silly, but I think cool looking, fight.
Secondly, it's not canon because ME3 accounts for if you do it or not. If you don't, Liara still becomes the Shadow Broker but Shepard will be surprised when someone mentions it. Liara being the Shadow Broker is ultimately irrelevant to ME3.
In ME2? No it was not. It's even in the item description.
Yes, it is. It's just a different sniper rifle and it affects nothing.
The point is Shepard is a super being and human perfection which was the plot, in case you went into a coma during ME.
No, that had nothing to do with the plot. That had nothing to do with Mass Effect, nothing to do with what Miranda said made Shepard important at the start of ME2, and really didn't matter at the end of ME3. All that made Shepard "special" there was his physical presence.
