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The krogan in Andromeda (Pre- or Post- Genophage Arc)


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While all the leaked material about Andromeda has not been fully substantiated I would like to discuss the presence of the krogan in Andromeda.

 

 

From the leaked script it is said that there will be a krogan colony we will rescue in Andromeda. I am not familiar with krogan genetics but I would guess that dozens of female krogan will have to be present on this "ark". As for how many exactly I am unsure.

 

 

However, during the trilogy all female krogan were on Tuchanka.

 

 

If we are to transport female krogan to Andromeda on this supposed ark would they not be those cured or believed to be cured of the genophage?

 

 

Those females pre-genophage arc stay exclusively in camps on Tuchanka? The only females off-world were Shiagur who died during the Krogan Rebellions and those three that died on Sur'Kesh except for Bakara.

 

 

I may be wrong about the presence of female krogan off-world during the trilogy as I have not read any supplemental material of the extended universe. Afaik the females stay on world to keep them "safe". Feel free to correct me on this.

 

 

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I wont be surprised if they don't just cure it during the trip to Andromeda to avoid canonizing one choice or another. It's a pretty long trip even at Reaper speeds, and the main reason why nobody cured the Genophage prior to ME3 is because the other species didn't really care to try and Krogan scientists are all about making things go boom.

 

Mordin can figure it out in a matter of what is at most months, even with Maelon's data being destroyed.



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It's a very good question. I suspect female Krogan in Andromeda will probably not be cured. In which case they will be at threat of extinction with limited numbers. On the other hand if they are Krogan will quickly have vastly higher populations. Perhaps all Krogan in Andromeda will be tank bred?



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Look at the third comment, i go with post



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https://twitter.com/...495543001321473

Look at the third comment, i go with post

 

Heh, people on Twitter are jerkasses. 



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Bioware is most likely going to hand wave the explanation why there are krogan, I don't expect it to be well written/implemented.

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Bioware is most likely going to hand wave the explanation why there are krogan, I don't expect it to be well written/implemented.

 

Why wouldn't there be Krogan?



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I know there is "no canon" to the trilogy. They will most likely have the krogan overcome the genophage disease on their own without the need to canonize the choice made during the genophage arc. I am just curious as to how the krogan males and females are convinced to move from Tuchanka to go to Andromeda if this occurs pre-genopage arc. Telling them it is for their own good because of the reapers during pre-ME3 events or pre-genophage arc would be met with suspicion IMO. And who would want them breeding on the trip there. Unless there are only males in Andromeda...



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I know there is "no canon" to the trilogy. They will most likely have the krogan overcome the genophage disease on their own without the need to canonize the choice made during the genophage arc. I am just curious as to how the krogan males and females are convinced to move from Tuchanka to go to Andromeda if this occurs pre-genopage arc. Telling them it is for their own good because of the reapers during pre-ME3 events or pre-genophage arc would be met with suspicion IMO. And who would want them breeding on the trip there. Unless there are only males in Andromeda...

 

Wasn't it mentioned that it's basically what's happening which is why they had to modify the genophage 



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Why wouldn't there be Krogan?

Why bother with the genophage arc in the first place if Bioware is just going to hand wave the entire plot?

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Why bother with the genophage arc in the first place if Bioware is just going to hand wave the entire plot?

 

Because the genophage is suppose to keep them in check not wipe them out, it's entirely possible for the Krogan to still have it if people chose not to cure 



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didnt mordin state something to the effect of the krogans adapting to the genophage and his work reseting it back to 0 essentially. if teh leak is right they are colonizing if they are coloinizing that means they are breeding at a rate that increases their population, krogan with genophage slowly dieing out, thus genophage is cured/no longer viable

 

to the poster above me its officially stated that if the genophage continues the krogan will die off due to a slow population decline by the genophage



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Because the genophage is suppose to keep them in check not wipe them out, it's entirely possible for the Krogan to still have it if people chose not to cure

Except the Krogan won't survive the reaper war without the cure so it's quite obvious why they need it.

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Except the Krogan won't survive the reaper war without the cure so it's quite obvious why they need it.

 

And your still given the choice to cure it or keep the genophage 



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My issue is more with how they convince the females to flee Tuchanka if pre-genophage arc to go on this exodus to Andromeda. As I understood they exclusively stay in their camps on Tuchanka and have no need to flee. During the Tuchanka arc the females are all on world waiting for the cure. If it is post-genophage arc I expect some mention of their being cured outright or having overcome the genophage on their own eventually. They would still be experiencing miscarriages and stillbirths at some point during their early journey or colonization.



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And your still given the choice to cure it or keep the genophage

But it's quite obvious that they die out if it's not cured. 

My issue is more with how they convince the females to flee Tuchanka if pre-genophage arc to go on this exodus to Andromeda. As I understood they exclusively stay in their camps on Tuchanka and have no need to flee. If it is post-genophage arc I expect some mention of their being cured or having overcome the genophage on their own eventually.

It took them about 1000 years to over come it naturally there is no way it can be done in one or two centuries.

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But it's quite obvious that they die out if it's not cured.

 

We don't even know the timeframe of when that supposedly happens 



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But it's quite obvious that they die out if it's not cured. It took them about 1000 years to over come it naturally there is no way it can be done in one or two centuries.

krogans live 1000 years and this game may take place much longer then a few centuries after (probobly does as grunt and liara could still be alive otherwise)



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We don't even know the timeframe of when that supposedly happens

It wouldn't be too long after the war since its heavily implied that the krogan losses are extremely high to the point they can't sustain their population for long.

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It wouldn't be too long after the war since its heavily implied that the krogan losses are extremely high to the point they can't sustain their population for long.

 

Wouldn't that also give the impression that they destroyed themselves..... again



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krogans live 1000 years and this game may take place much longer then a few centuries after (probobly does as grunt and liara could still be alive otherwise)

But it takes many centuries or millennia for any significant change to happen.

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I'm more worried about what'll happen with the Geth, Quarians, or Rachni with these new games. 

 

The Krogan will be around for thousands of years, cure or no cure. 



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Wouldn't that also give the impression that they destroyed themselves..... again

Not really Wrex pointed out that if the reaper's or the turian bomb don't wipe out the Krogan, then it's going to be genophage that delivers the fatal blow to the Krogan people.

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I'm more worried about what'll happen with the Geth, Quarians, or Rachni with these new games. 

 

The Krogan will be around for thousands of years, cure or no cure. 

 

I doubt the Rachni would appear, and the Geth/Quarians are definitely difficult because they can be wiped out 



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I'm not sure what one would really expect of the rachni in future titles. Like the geth, the only times we ever encounter them in multiple is when we're killing them, only to subsequently decide whether or not the galaxy is better off without them. The quarians are the most troublesome because they're both popular and a relatively peaceful faction in this lot. I'm pretty certain that among "serious" factions, the quarians are the only ones absent from the assortment of enemies.